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Nintendo patents motion sensing handheld

bruinbruin Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/nintendo/wii-portable-coming-seems-like-it-286606.php
A game system includes a housing to be held by a player. The housing incorporates an XY-axis acceleration sensor to detect an acceleration in an X-axis and Y-axis direction and a Z-axis contact switch to detect an acceleration in a Z-axis direction. These sensor and switch detect at least one of an amount (e.g. tilt amount, movement amount, impact amount or the like) and a direction (e.g. tilt direction, movement direction, impact direction or the like) of a change applied to the housing. A simulation program provides simulation such that a state of a game space is changed related to at least one of the amount and direction of the change applied to the housing.

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This doesn't mean the DS2 definitely has motion sensing or anything, but it's definitely noteworthy. I question how well it could work when the thing you're moving around has the screen itself on it though.

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  • JLM-AWPJLM-AWP Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It's funny because I see this the same way I saw the DS at first:

    Juh?


    I know I'll be proven wrong, but constantly jerking that thing would make you:

    a.) tired

    b.) look retarded


    EDIT:
    I'll buy 2

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It looks like a GameBoy

    Maybe it's not dead after all?

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lemming wrote: »
    It looks like a GameBoy

    Maybe it's not dead after all?

    I think that's just the symbol for a handheld game system.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This works well in a household with open space and a flat surface to stand on. Playing a motion sensing game in a crowded bus or in a bumpy car ride? I don't think so

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    twisted was pretty awesome actually

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Interesting but not surprising in the least.

    I would bet it works with Wii somehow.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Best in the series, really.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Think it will have two screens? LOL

    No really, do you think it will, you know. To support DS games and such.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hmmm so does this mean no PSP2 with waggle?

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This is a patent for the sake of having a patent, and it probably won't end up as an actual product like the one pictured there. It's not unlikely that the DS2 will have some sort of accelerometer in it, but it's unlikely to be used in any arm flailing/jerking way if it does end up having one.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Think it will have two screens? LOL

    No really, do you think it will, you know. To support DS games and such.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo's next handheld was just like the DS but more powerful (GC level 3D graphics?), with motion sensing, and maybe built in rumble. And online from launch. And maybe both screens would be touch screens.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It could be awesome for certain games. I'm picturing Marble Madness... But I wouldn't want it to be a major feature of most games and they shouldn't market the system around it.

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  • ParkingtigersParkingtigers Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    So, I hear it has two waggles.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    bruin wrote: »
    Think it will have two screens? LOL

    No really, do you think it will, you know. To support DS games and such.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo's next handheld was just like the DS but more powerful (GC level 3D graphics?), with motion sensing, and maybe built in rumble. And online from launch. And maybe both screens would be touch screens.

    DS2 to use UMDs?

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Franko wrote: »
    bruin wrote: »
    Think it will have two screens? LOL

    No really, do you think it will, you know. To support DS games and such.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo's next handheld was just like the DS but more powerful (GC level 3D graphics?), with motion sensing, and maybe built in rumble. And online from launch. And maybe both screens would be touch screens.

    DS2 to use UMDs?

    I severely doubt it.

    I'm betting the successor to the DS will use something similar to Secure Digital cards... they have really come down in price, by the time Nintendo gets around to rolling out a successor to the DS those cards (or something similar) ought to be plenty cheap and offer gigabytes of storage without the need for moving parts.

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It would be interesting for something like an FPS on the DS.

    bottom screen as a map, top screen as everything in front of you.

    Use the motion sensing to control aiming. move the system to move the camera, D-pad for movement, other buttons for firing... stuff like that.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It would be interesting for something like an FPS on the DS.

    bottom screen as a map, top screen as everything in front of you.

    Use the motion sensing to control aiming. move the system to move the camera, D-pad for movement, other buttons for firing... stuff like that.

    Uh, well, the problem being that you're also moving the screen. The applications would definitely be a lot more limited than the Wii.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Not surprising at all. If anything, it's more like a given, seeing how popular the Wii has become.

    I'm curious to see what applications Nintendo will use this for. The Wii is popular because the Wii-mote moves look and feel natural (swinging a tennis racket, bowling, boxing, etc.). Like Zek mentioned, it would be great for a game like Marble Madness. I just hope they don't try to force it on games that don't make sense for it. (If it's anything like the touch-screen for the DS, the first-gen games will be awkward, but ones after that will "get it")

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DS2 to have motion controls?

    Oh dear lord.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Not surprising at all. If anything, it's more like a given, seeing how popular the Wii has become.

    I'm curious to see what applications Nintendo will use this for. The Wii is popular because the Wii-mote moves look and feel natural (swinging a tennis racket, bowling, boxing, etc.). Like Zek mentioned, it would be great for a game like Marble Madness. I just hope they don't try to force it on games that don't make sense for it. (If it's anything like the touch-screen for the DS, the first-gen games will be awkward, but ones after that will "get it")

    Also if it's anything like the DS, the motion sensing wont be used to every game. (There's plenty of great DS games that don't use the touch screen.)

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I just want a DS with one screen. The touch screen is the great part about the DS.

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Yeah, as noted above, Nintendo is already occasionally doing stuff like this with special carts, so might as well build it into the system. Monkey Ball will be good with this.

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    It would be interesting for something like an FPS on the DS.

    bottom screen as a map, top screen as everything in front of you.

    Use the motion sensing to control aiming. move the system to move the camera, D-pad for movement, other buttons for firing... stuff like that.

    Uh, well, the problem being that you're also moving the screen. The applications would definitely be a lot more limited than the Wii.

    moving the screen is the point.

    I may have described it wrong.

    center of the top screen is the cross hairs of the weapon, moving the system (screen) moves the viewpoint of the person.

    Think like using a digital camera with a screen on the back of it. the screen changes depending on how you move it, but instead of taking pictures of what you are looking at on the screen, you are shooting at them.

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  • MonaroMonaro Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    So. I hear this new Game Boy has three axes...

    Sorry.
    Not really.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Finally, real tilt action! Someone port Pinball Fantasies and Epic Piball to the DS... right now!








    Please?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I sure do love playing motion sensing games on the fucking bus, which is almost the only time I play a handheld.

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  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    They didn't illustrate tilt and yaw! Time to go to the patent office!

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Does Nintendo own a patent on the Wii controllers to the extent that no third parties can make them? I can't believe it's been a year already and I haven't seen any third party controllers for the Wii. (Or is this a common thing now with all the new systems?)

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    *sigh*

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    did that kirby GBC game actually get released? I know there was a GBA/GC version of tilt and tumble that got partially made but never released (along with the awesome GC kirby game on the SSBM engine)

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  • Raif SeveranceRaif Severance Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Man, I can't wait for the pictures to come out of the DS2 breaking windows and whatnot... hell, if it's anything like the first iteration of the DS, then the ER's are going to have to name an injury after it.

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  • runwiledrunwiled Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Actually the tilt-sensing has another application other than control. It could be used to change the environment of the interface. Think iPhone, where rotating the handheld might rotate the screens you're using too. Whereas I can't think of an inherent use for this on a gaming console, it may be that whatever Nintendo have in mind for their next iteration of handheld hardware does more than just play games perhaps.
    Just my take on what it might mean.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Does Nintendo own a patent on the Wii controllers to the extent that no third parties can make them? I can't believe it's been a year already and I haven't seen any third party controllers for the Wii. (Or is this a common thing now with all the new systems?)

    They just run on Bluetooth. I'm assuming that MadCatz, etc, just can't make them cheap enough to be both cheaper than the official controller and still make money.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    did that kirby GBC game actually get released? I know there was a GBA/GC version of tilt and tumble that got partially made but never released (along with the awesome GC kirby game on the SSBM engine)

    Yeah, Tilt 'N Tumble was released. It's just the sequel that was canned.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Monaro wrote: »
    So. I hear this new Game Boy has three axes...

    Sorry.
    Not really.



    Awwwwwwww, I was gonna make that joke......

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Can you patent this? I mean a motion sensing handheld? What differentiates it from any other form of handheld motion sensing technology? Plus combining two inventions, one of which I'm pretty sure they didn't invent and I'd hazard a guess against the other as well into one hardly new one which means anyone else creating one will owe you money?

    I mean maybe I'm reading it wrong but it doesn't exactly sound...sound.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Plus combining two inventions, one of which I'm pretty sure they didn't invent and I'd hazard a guess against the other as well into one hardly new one which means anyone else creating one will owe you money?

    Combining two things you didn't create is very patentable. For example:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=DBNPAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA13

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This could work.

    Warioware Twisted had a number of games that worked quite well with very subtle twists, meaning that you don't have to flail around like an idiot.

    Then again, Twisted also had games that had you flailing around like an idiot. 'Twas fun.

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