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Hey, I just recently finished this. I just felt like doing something other than my webcomic for a bit. I'm hoping to ink it at some point so I'd appreciate any critiques before I get to that point. Thanks.
NakedZerglingA more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
i think the pencils are really nice, but it seem that that everyone seems to grow from toe to head. the heads are large, the legs are a tad small, but i really think the pencils are very nice looking. the only issue i personally have with it are the proportions.
i think it should be closer to this, might be worth tweaking, because it's really nice.
I don't know if I'm right anatomically, but the right leg of the guy hopping the wall seems like it goes out too far. Or maybe the left one just seems too small in comparison.
Heh, I just saw this posted by you over on the Penciljack forums, and then I just happened to come here and see it again. I don't know why I was surprised by that...actually I'm surprised that a lot more people here don't also post over there.
Anyway, as to the drawing itself, the pencils are very nice, and the background is impressive. I have a difficult time with backgrounds myself, partly because I'm impatient, and partly because I can never seem to get the details right without using some sort of reference...so I'm quite envious of the work you've done there.
As to your figures, the anatomy and proportions could use some work, as could the general posing of your figures. While the anatomy and proportional problems can be solved easily enough with a bit of study, unfortunately there isn't quite such a simple solution to the positioning of your figures. I think it's just a matter of experience. I also find it's sometimes helpful to try and get yourself into the pose that you imagine your subject in, and figure out what feels natural in that position as far as where the arms and legs would go, etc. Of course, that would be tough to do for a figure in a position such as the one Bucky is in in this drawing. It would be tough to find real life references for something like that...the best advice I think I could give is to study other artists and see how they pull off certain types of poses and try to learn what works and what doesn't and why.
I don't know if I'm right anatomically, but the right leg of the guy hopping the wall seems like it goes out too far. Or maybe the left one just seems too small in comparison.
There's all kinds of problems with Bucky in this picture. It's an admirable attempt, but the foreshortening and perspective on that figure are all kind of messed up. It just makes everything look off...
I can help thinking that it needs some stronger foreground elements to frame the image better. They seem like the could fall off the bottom of the page. Just making some of those things you have there already, larger, would help a lot. It also makes you feel as though you are more in the action.
Also I would avoid putting the characters along the centre of the page. Its a bit more dynamic if you move them all down a tad
I agree with cybermonkeytrons suggestion, but I'd pick a happy medium between the foreground size of what you've got and what he's suggested. His cuts into the eagle in the background, bisecting it in an awkward way. You're obviously talented, so use your artists intuition.
Though, no artist myself, I'll have to agree with the needs a stronger foreground comment.
I'd also like to point out, from what I've noticed, is that fight scenes seem like some of the hardest things to draw. Not only do you need to know how to draw, you need to know how fights play out and work.
My personal question is, why are they posed that way? What are they trying to accomplish at that point in the fight? The skrull looks like he is booking it towards captain America while possibly under heavy fire, but it doesn't look like he is trying to attack captain America. His limbs are still bent, no punch as been thrown, maybe he is trying to set up a killer kick with his left leg or something? Or maybe a right hook? He certainly isn't attacking with his left hand, it's still bent and you don't really punch like that.
As for captain, why is he defending with his non shielded hand, and leaving his shield open wide, leaving himself defenseless. Why is he down on one knee?
I am sure seeing what lead up or will follow this point in the fight will help things make more sense. What were you going for combat wise with this picture anyway?
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NakedZerglingA more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
looking at skulls back left foot, and caps wide open stance...its clear Inquisitor....
skull is about the kick the mother of all ball shots. he's gonna kick him from the 1940's to the 80's with one snap to the beanbag.
Anybody else getting the 'I'm out of the rest home for a day' vibe off of this? For some reason cap and skull look like they're eighty. And Bucky, the ever spry forty year old accountant is there to watch the captain's back. Before he puts it out again...
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It's better than his blood pooping pizzas, at least.
i think it should be closer to this, might be worth tweaking, because it's really nice.
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Anyway, as to the drawing itself, the pencils are very nice, and the background is impressive. I have a difficult time with backgrounds myself, partly because I'm impatient, and partly because I can never seem to get the details right without using some sort of reference...so I'm quite envious of the work you've done there.
As to your figures, the anatomy and proportions could use some work, as could the general posing of your figures. While the anatomy and proportional problems can be solved easily enough with a bit of study, unfortunately there isn't quite such a simple solution to the positioning of your figures. I think it's just a matter of experience. I also find it's sometimes helpful to try and get yourself into the pose that you imagine your subject in, and figure out what feels natural in that position as far as where the arms and legs would go, etc. Of course, that would be tough to do for a figure in a position such as the one Bucky is in in this drawing. It would be tough to find real life references for something like that...the best advice I think I could give is to study other artists and see how they pull off certain types of poses and try to learn what works and what doesn't and why.
There's all kinds of problems with Bucky in this picture. It's an admirable attempt, but the foreshortening and perspective on that figure are all kind of messed up. It just makes everything look off...
I think it's pretty cool, flaws aside.
Also I would avoid putting the characters along the centre of the page. Its a bit more dynamic if you move them all down a tad
I'd also like to point out, from what I've noticed, is that fight scenes seem like some of the hardest things to draw. Not only do you need to know how to draw, you need to know how fights play out and work.
My personal question is, why are they posed that way? What are they trying to accomplish at that point in the fight? The skrull looks like he is booking it towards captain America while possibly under heavy fire, but it doesn't look like he is trying to attack captain America. His limbs are still bent, no punch as been thrown, maybe he is trying to set up a killer kick with his left leg or something? Or maybe a right hook? He certainly isn't attacking with his left hand, it's still bent and you don't really punch like that.
As for captain, why is he defending with his non shielded hand, and leaving his shield open wide, leaving himself defenseless. Why is he down on one knee?
I am sure seeing what lead up or will follow this point in the fight will help things make more sense. What were you going for combat wise with this picture anyway?
skull is about the kick the mother of all ball shots. he's gonna kick him from the 1940's to the 80's with one snap to the beanbag.