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Dead China Doll's Art [NSFW]

Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Artist's Corner
I'm not only new to Art Forums, but I'm also really new to art. I recently found my style (took me forever), and I haven't taken art classes. But I'll share with you my most recent piece, and the commission I'm working on.

This is my best pic to date ::
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This is the commission ::
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My Patron wants me to draw her friend with the same thing I did for my friend Erin's picture. Lots of see creatures, lots of detail. But Erin's pic was so much easier because I KNEW the girl. It was simple for me to capture her personality. I haven't really penned much in yet because I'm wary, and I'm looking for some sharp feedback. My patron lady has some connections, and I want this thing to be mindblowingly awesome.

Suggestions please I beg of you, before I start inking more sea critters and potentially screwing stuff up. It's my first commission, so I feel like there's a lot of pressure on me to do this right.

Thank you so much guys. Harsher, the better. Compliments are nice too, so I know what to CONTINUE doing as well.

- Alz

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  • StudioZELStudioZEL ConnecticutRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That first piece has got some stellar linework goin' for it. Neat composition too.

    That 2nd one could use some composition work though, her legs look like they've been shortened so they'll fit on the page.

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  • core tacticcore tactic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Your noses look kind of... oddly broad? I guess? I'm not too good at noses myself, but drawing them upside-down seems to help.

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  • Highlander_77Highlander_77 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I love that first pic. Fantastic linework, and all the detail in her "hair" is astounding (very cool concept too).

    In the 2nd pic, I don't know if it's intentional or not (it may be, since it's highly stylized), but some of the proportions seem a little off. Her hands and feet are a little small, and her legs don't seem right. I don't think the overall leg is more or less the right length, but I think you've got her thighs a little too long, and her calves a little too short. A general rule of thumb is that the upper leg and lower leg should both be of equal length (not counting the foot).

    Other than that, her eyes are very big...but if it's supposed to be a semi-caricature, then that might very well have been your intention.

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  • NakedElfNakedElf Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Personally, her legs look too thin to me--but I have this non-anorexic fetish going on.

    On a hopefully more useful note: The eyes are too big in the second picture, and her eyebrows a little too straight. The line between the nose and the eyebrows should be curved, but on her they're almost at right angles.

    I'd tone down the detailing on her hands--they look really weird to me, honestly. And it looks like her forearm is too short compared to her upper arm. I'd throw in some thicker linework around the edges of her hair.

    On the first one, I'd decrease some of the detailing on the face. You don't need *all* of those lines around her eyes, nor all of them in her eyebrows. Her nose is also too straight--it should curve a bit more--and I'd take out the leftmost shine. After all, the shines on her lip and the right side of her nose indicate a light source over that way, so why would the left side of her nose be shining?

    The background is tilted--I'm not sure I've ever seen a tilted ocean...

    And your hairlines are a little weak.

    On the good side, your composition is strong and your linework is very nice. I love the wavy stylings of the first girl's hair and all of the cute sea creatures. ^_^

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  • The Masked EmoThe Masked Emo Registered User new member
    edited August 2007
    Like everyone else is saying, the composition is wonderful, and the sea critters are a great touch. The only couple things I want to point out is that her foot looks as though its broken, and her hand is super tiny. I love the level of detail you've put into this. All I can suggest is to study anatomy. Great work!

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    These need to be coloured oh so badly, with rich, deep, saturated colours.

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  • NibCromNibCrom Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The top one looks really good. You got a little lazy with the right side and the water, but otherwise I really like it. Let's see some colors!

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    well, i don't know the opinion of red sketches on this board, but i figured the best way to show you my crits was by sketching over so here it is.

    crits
    -the facial anatomy most of all, it is basically what i focused on, with a rough focus on normal anatomy
    -hand/foot size are off, but if you are going for that kind of look disregard this crit.
    -she is sitting on her foot, but the foot is so tiny/at an odd place.
    -i would say to alter the angle of the feet a little bit, but you might be going for that kind of look with most things in profile, so i'll leave that up to you.
    -i would say to show both breasts, but again, if that is a stylistic choice to leave it all n profile disregard this.

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    i love the detail, your linework is wonderful.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I've scrapped the last pic, and I'm redoing her over again.

    Like I've said before, I haven't taken anatomy for drawing, or any other art classes. This is me going on a stylish fling until my classes start in September. But I appreciate the feedback (although it's a bit frustrating for me, since I don't understand most of the anatomy critiques)

    I'll show the redone sketch later and request some feedback before I ink it (as I already made the mistake of inking the first one before.)

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    These need to be coloured oh so badly, with rich, deep, saturated colours.

    Feel free. I can't color worth shit :(

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  • Highlander_77Highlander_77 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    These need to be coloured oh so badly, with rich, deep, saturated colours.

    Feel free. I can't color worth shit :(

    Yet. You can't color worth shit yet. It's a learning process, just like drawing, and everybody sucks at first. Having said that, it's probably better to focus on one thing at a time, and drawing should probably come before coloring.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm posting a few doodles and ideas. I don't really want to use the doodle thread, since I want to compile all of my stuff onto my own personal thread and swim through it as time passes by.

    Critique is always lovely.

    Kirby.
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    The Dream of a Walrus
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    Self Portrait
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    I look like a crackwhore. Hah.

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  • DangeriskDangerisk Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Haha the walrus made me laugh. There really is a sense of weight and gravity with the walrus's drooping head and tail. And then the tiny butterfly wings just make it awesome.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm so sick of drawing fish.

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    I hate this. I need to redo it. It's not worthy of 50. I know what I did wrong. It lacks space and flow, so the details blend more as a background than a living entity like the other pic.

    At least it was good practice.

    (( i love the blow fish and seals. adding those to the updated one ))

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    New sig.

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    Anyone who guesses where the idea came from gets awesome points. For being awesome.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This isn't my art, but it's a plug for someone who is absolutely outstanding.

    Joelle here from portland.

    She has some nice stuff, not a lot of publicity or attention.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Her right hand annoys the hell out of me, and I wouldn't mind some help so I can avoid doing that in the future.

    Criticism? Please? Be bashing. (Though not about the eyes. I already know I need work on the eyes, and hers are a caricature. When I do another piece, I'll be open for criticism about the eyes.)

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  • Highlander_77Highlander_77 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Her right hand annoys the hell out of me, and I wouldn't mind some help so I can avoid doing that in the future.

    Criticism? Please? Be bashing. (Though not about the eyes. I already know I need work on the eyes, and hers are a caricature. When I do another piece, I'll be open for criticism about the eyes.)

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    The right hand here doesn't look too bad. The only advice I can really offer for drawing hands it to look at some real hands and use them as references.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Catfishing. Favorite past-time.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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    My first moleskinne piece. This thing is useful and compact.

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    A flyer I drew on the back of during a friend's gig

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    Same as above. Was suppose to be a political cartoon with Iran being the fisher and the Shark being Guantanamo bay

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Just a quick pensketch for Tube. Really nothing of value, but it's cute.

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    I'll have something better later. I've been busy trying to find a job, but I have a few interesting character concepts that I'd like some critiquing and advice on later.

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    You're such a suck up. Or do you just have a crush on him?

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lords, I know I do.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    You're such a suck up. Or do you just have a crush on him?

    I've known him for a long time. And he's helping me with my weight-plan, so it's a tradeoff really.

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    You're such a suck up. Or do you just have a crush on him?

    I've known him for a long time. And he's helping me with my weight-plan, so it's a tradeoff really.

    Just so you know, I'm reading this and in my mind is translates to "I have the biggest crush on Tube. He is my lovey dovey squishy toy."

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    NSFW due to breast exposure.
    Baiken from Guilty Gear

    A little old, but it shows what I attempt to do with color. I hate the window, but I honestly thought if I didn't put ANYTHING back there, it would look poor standalone.

    Really. I need help with color pretty desperately. Should I have put more in there? I just don't know.

    Also, anatomically, is that okay?

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    What did you use to colour? Marker?

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    Just so you know, I'm reading this and in my mind is translates to "I have the biggest crush on Tube. He is my lovey dovey squishy toy."

    D::...:

    but... grifter... i would never be disloyal to the love you and I share.
    we do share love, right? i mean, we could share love. sharing love involves eating raw beefheart, doesn't it? I would eat it with no one but you.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    What did you use to colour? Marker?

    Prismacolors and some other marker type thing. I made it brighter using photoshop because I'm a sucker for bright bright bang bang colors.

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    Just so you know, I'm reading this and in my mind is translates to "I have the biggest crush on Tube. He is my lovey dovey squishy toy."

    D::...:

    but... grifter... i would never be disloyal to the love you and I share.
    we do share love, right? i mean, we could share love.

    And on a regular basis! :winky:

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    What did you use to colour? Marker?

    Prismacolors and some other marker type thing. I made it brighter using photoshop because I'm a sucker for bright bright bang bang colors.

    Ok, I'll talk about it later. I'm about to leave work in a few minutes and don't have time right now.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    Grifter wrote: »
    What did you use to colour? Marker?

    Prismacolors and some other marker type thing. I made it brighter using photoshop because I'm a sucker for bright bright bang bang colors.

    Ok, I'll talk about it later. I'm about to leave work in a few minutes and don't have time right now.

    okay sugarlips, i'll be waiting with that beefheart! have fun at work, love love love.

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm so...confused....

    In any case, I like the composition for the first version of the commission piece better than the second one you posted. I agree that there are some anatomy issues, but I find them pretty easy to ignore because it just looks stylized.

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  • furiousNUfuriousNU Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Grifter wrote: »
    What did you use to colour? Marker?

    Prismacolors and some other marker type thing. I made it brighter using photoshop because I'm a sucker for bright bright bang bang colors.

    Prismacolors can be a bitch to color with :/. They requie a light hand and a lot of control and blending. The piece of baiken looks like a good piece for you to start experimenting with shading :P. Sometimes its really intimidating to start coloring something from scratch and coloring a scanned (colored) piece and working on it can be helpful. What did you use to "brighten" the drawing?



    edit: So I'm a bored son of a bitch and decide to see what I can do for your baiken pic. GG is one of favorite fighting games(so I just had to).

    I'm making the assumption that you don't want to paint the picture in photoshop. You just want to "adjust" the colors. I hope the colors turn out because everyone's monitors are different.

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    When balancing colors in a piece always do Layers>New Adjustment Layers. This will put your "change" in a new layer. So you can do multiple changes to a pic without screwing it up. And if you don't like a change, you can just toss the layer. I like curves(make an shallow s shaped curves) and selective color.

    I used selective color which allows me to change certain colors and not others to enhance your picture.

    Yellow-
    +100% yellow
    +100 black

    Whites-
    +100% yellow

    What this fixed:
    Baiken's skin looked the same as the white cloth. Now it doesn't.

    Magentas-
    -45% magenta
    +17% yellow

    What this fixed:
    Your pinks were so saturated that you were losing depth+detail. Now your good hair linework looks better and the belt has more depth.


    random comments about the piece itself:

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    I dyed the bottom half black so the text would be more readable. If any of my tampering with your stuff bothers you I can take the images down.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    God I fucking love this forum. You guys are so goddamn helpful and go out of your way to help me out. You do it, and you don't HAVE to do it. But you do. Really, honestly, thank you SO much. You are all such a wonderful crew. I'm not being a suckup, I'm just being honest. Really, you guys rock.

    NU :: Thank you SO MUCH for the help and pointers. As for paint - I HATE using adobe. I think it has a lot to do with the fact I can't sit at a computer and color, I have to be in a public place and I feel more in tune with my piece if I'm doing it by hand and watching it develop in front of me.

    Baiken is one of my favorite characters design wise and personality. I have a soft spot for samurai, and a softer spot for female samurai. I'll probably redraw her in the future with breast exposed and arm naked, but in a different pose. When I color it, I'll post it and hopefully you'll be around to critique it like this last one. I'll follow your advice in the future.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Larlar wrote:
    Tell me something to draw so I can draw it. I'm running low on imagination points, and you have the best imagination of the lot.

    give it to me.

    G rated though.

    A man swallowing his own head as crowbars rain down from the sky, thrown by anthropomorphic wheels of cheese with bowler hats that are riding winged tricycles.

    I'll probably work on it some more. I'm asking Larlar for more details. I'll scan it tomorrow (don't have a scanner, have to use the school's), clean it up and... make it pretty? I don't know. It's pretty fucked up and I got a headache just trying to draw it. Why do men have such violent imaginations?

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    That's right there is actually the only way Larlar can reach orgasm . The pleasure derived from it hinges on the type of cheese you drew, however.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    That's right there is actually the only way Larlar can reach orgasm . The pleasure derived from it hinges on the type of cheese you drew, however.

    What kind should it be?

    I was thinking of the little soft red cheese with the winking happy cow on it.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm posting this here just to look through the thread later, and for people who haven't seen it in the sketches dump.

    I'll have access to a scanner on Tuesday and throw in a few pieces I've been toying with. Right now I'm drawing Mrs. Coulter and her evil nasty spitting monkey of horror.


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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I really like the composition and details on the last one. The cute hammerheads are an awesome touch.

    I'd love to see it colored, though.

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