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GBA Game Suggestions - I'm out of the loop and LTTP

ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
I'm leaving for vacation today. I have a GBA and a hour at lunch with which I plan on visiting my local Best Buy to zero out a $15 gift card just because.

I haven't played a GBA game since Zelda: Minish Cap, and I'm sure there are plenty of awesome games before and after that point that I've missed out on.

I already own:
Zelda: Links Awakening
Zelda: Minish Cap
Mario Kart
Harvest Moon
Super Mario 3
Super Mario Bros
edit: FFT:A (forgot about that one)

I'm looking to pick up another game or two to play on the plane and just when I have some downtime while on vacation and I need some suggestions. I'm open to pretty much anything.
The only thing I've decided against is a Pokemon game, simply because I hope to get a DS sometime in the nearish future and will just pick up one of the new ones then. Wish I had the DS now as there are a bunch of games I want, but the funds aren't there for that right now.
Because of the nature of my game time availability, something that is easy to pick up, put down, and pick up again later would be nice.

(I tried searching the threads but I couldn't find any suggestion threads on this already - I'm sure they exist somewhere. My search-fu is weak.)

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you can find it, Metroid: Zero Mission.

    Also good:

    Advance Wars
    Fire Emblem
    Final Fantasy IV, V, or VI (though if you want to just wait for the DS version you can ignore IV)
    Yoshi's Island

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Castlevania
    Golden Sun
    Final Fantasy: tactics advanced

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Tales of Phantasia is badly overlooked, and Sonic Advance 3 is badly underrated.

    And buy Yoshi's Island.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Super Dodge Ball Advance.

    (Yes!)

    (Do it!)

    (mtvcdm's a genius!)

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fire Emblem is the game where you die and you can't get that character back?

    FF: VI GBA is FFIII SNES correct? I have fond memories of that game and if it's ported well that's a tempting choice. I hate paying so much for a port when they should remake it for DS, but meh.

    Googling the suggestions now to read up on them and start picking out what I think I'd enjoy the most. Any specific Castlevania, Spoit, or are all of them good?

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    I think FF:VI is being remade to the DS.
    Anyways, Fire Emblem is great.
    Aria of Sorrow is great.
    I liked Drill Dozer, go for it if you can get it for cheap.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'd say Golden Sun and it's sequel Golden Sun: The Lost Age.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    AggroChan wrote: »
    I liked Drill Dozer, go for it if you can get it for cheap.

    DRILL DOOOOOOOOOOZER

    Game is an awesome platformer, and you do enough different things with the drills that they don't really feel like a gimmick. It's short and straightforward, which may be good in your pick-up/put-down category, but the extra areas you unlock after beating the game once are actually really, really tough.

    Also, I think generally people like Aria of Sorrow best as far as the GBA Castlevanias; you might be able to find one of those double-packs that have Aria with another of the Castlevanias, if they're at BB.

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    AggroChan wrote: »
    I liked Drill Dozer, go for it if you can get it for cheap.

    DRILL DOOOOOOOOOOZER

    Game is an awesome platformer, and you do enough different things with the drills that they don't really feel like a gimmick. It's short and straightforward, which may be good in your pick-up/put-down category, but the extra areas you unlock after beating the game once are actually really, really tough.

    Also, I think generally people like Aria of Sorrow best as far as the GBA Castlevanias; you might be able to find one of those double-packs that have Aria with another of the Castlevanias, if they're at BB.

    I enjoyed it but it was way too short ;;
    I wouldn't have minded if they rehashed some of the areas. :(

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  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Its an import, but my only GBA game of the year has been Kuru Kuruin Paradise:
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    Its only $10 at Playasia, and its a great little puzzler so far at least. I'm only on level 2.

    EDIT: Oh dang. I missed the 15 minute lunch at best Buy part. Well, regardless, for $10 everyone should play this.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Wario Ware: Twisted

    Its really all you need.

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  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Megaman Zero series.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Fire Emblem is the game where you die and you can't get that character back?

    Yeah.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    quovadis13 wrote: »
    Wario Ware: Twisted

    Its really all you need.

    This is also an immensely correct answer, but I question how the game will function on a plane. :)

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    You might want to hold off on the FF games-if they've made FFIII DS and are making FFIV DS, it sure seems likely they'll make FFV and VI DS.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    quovadis13 wrote: »
    Wario Ware: Twisted

    Its really all you need.

    Yes, yes, yes.

    It's utterly amazing how much fun Nintendo squeezed out of the concept of rotation.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    quovadis13 wrote: »
    Wario Ware: Twisted

    Its really all you need.

    This is also an immensely correct answer, but I question how the game will function on a plane. :)

    Well, planes generally fly straight. He probably wont have much difficulty playing (minus turbulence here and there) unless the plane all of a sudden drops out of the sky. Of course if that happens, he will then have much more important issues to deal with instead of worrying if he was able to pick Wario's nose or something.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Time's up! :D Thank you all for your suggestions. Now to see if Best Buy actually has any of them...

    I'll let you guys know what I end up picking up.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Get a Pokemon game anyway, probably Emerald. It unlocks other Pokeymens in the DS game anyway.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    TMNT for side scrolling beat em' ups.

    Super Mario World for pure fun.

    Advance wars was metnioned, also get Advance wars 2. AW2 is pretty much a permanent fixture in my GBMicro.

    There are more, I'll have to go through my collection when I get home, as I can't remember all of the greateness

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Get a Pokemon game anyway, probably Emerald. It unlocks other Pokeymens in the DS game anyway.

    yeah, I got here too late to say that too




    honestly, though, if you can't afford a DS, but want one, it only takes skipping the purchase of four or five GBA games in order to afford it.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    also, I am dissappointed by the lack of car battler joe in this thread

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Metriod Fusion and Zero Mission
    Sigma Star
    Riviera
    FFV

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ok, I'm back. I was severely disappointed (but not too surprised) by BB's stock of GBA games. Target and WalMart (newer and older buildings, respectively) have larger selections than BB does, unfortunately I don't have a gift card for those.

    My realistic choices were:
    Super Mario World (almost bought it)
    Final Fantasy V (also almost bought, but I would have rather had VI)
    Pokemon Emerald/FireRed/LeafGreen

    If I had known that Emerald unlocks stuff in the new ones I may have picked it up, but oh well.

    Choices I had but was not even considering:
    Any movie tie-in from the last 3 years
    Any game ending in "Z" (Dogz, Catz, Horsez, Bratz, etc)

    They also had a few I already had: Mario Kart, SMB3

    Oh well, I'll survive with what I've got. I still haven't beated FFTA or Minish Cap yet, but FFTA my save got overwritten and Minish Cap I was just plain stuck.

    I'll just keep the gift card until I can afford a DS so I can buy one of the 10+ games that I want for it later. I love seeing the DS games take up like 16' of shelf space. The sheer number of games available even in a B&M store is just awesome.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ya, the GBA is a platform that is gong away. You won't find many games in stock at B&M stores anymore. Your best bet is online shops, or ebay.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    CIMA: The Enemy
    Phantasy Star Collection
    DemiKids : Dark Version
    Sigma Star Saga
    Sword of Mana

    There's also the Robot Taisen games if you're feeling masochistic.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Just for the record, Super Mario World would have been an excellent choice. Its a best seller, so its pretty cheap too. You would still have had a bit left over for that future DS.

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  • citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you:

    -Can find it used somewhere
    -Can find it on Ebay
    -Enjoy words like "Sonic Boom" and "Shoryuken"

    Pick up one of the Street Fighter ports for GBA. I have Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival (lol long name), and it's a very nice SFII game. It blends classic SFII play with Turbo/Champion Edition, throws in the "Super" charge meter for a super-special attack, has nice artwork, and is an all around good game except for:
    The bug where you play the "Arcade" path well enough to face Akuma instead of Bison at the end, and instead of letting you fight the game just freezes up.

    I haven't tried the GBA version of Alpha, but I've heard it's also very well done and I'm probably going to pick that up one day.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ArcSyn wrote: »

    If I had known that Emerald unlocks stuff in the new ones I may have picked it up, but oh well.

    ALL of them unlock stuff, Emerald is just best.

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I can't believe that nobody mentioned Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Evander wrote: »
    also, I am dissappointed by the lack of car battler joe in this thread

    CBJ is awesome, but I don't even think even the Best Buy located on the corner of puppy dog land and fairy dreams land would have it.

    Awesome games you could still get easily on a lunch break?

    FF VI Advance

    Super Mario Bros 2-Yoshi's Island

    Mario Kart: Super Circuit

    Warioware Twisted (assuming you are not in euroland)

    Probably Tales of Phantasia, Pokemon Emerald, and the occasional NES classic title. Those are the ones I always see.

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    CIMA: The Enemy
    Phantasy Star Collection
    DemiKids : Dark Version
    Sigma Star Saga
    Sword of Mana

    There's also the Robot Taisen games if you're feeling masochistic.

    Well, the first Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation game isn't that bad, but the second one is definitely balls hard.

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Oh, and Polarium Advance is a quite nice puzzler, if you are into that genre.

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  • RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Delicious deja vu. Scratch Sigma Star Saga, add Rebelstar Tactical Command and sprinkle some cash over Mega Man Zero.

    edit: and anything Metroid

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Oh yeah, forgot RTC.

    But also, insanely tough.

    I never did finish it.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    This thread lacks love for Mario vs. Donkey Kong, an awesome little platform/puzzle game.

    Iridion II is a very good vertical shmup (but stay away from the godawful Iridion 3D)

    I like Riviera, but if you have any plans to get a PSP, you might as well get that version.

    Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow is awesome. Harmony of Dissonance, not so much. I only played Circle of the Moon briefly, but it seemed clunky and boring. (It was a launch title, as I recall.)

    One game that I never see people mention is the GBA version of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. It's a pretty decent game that's similar in gameplay to the Metroidvanias; unfortunately it has a few bugs and quirks that never got resolved (like when you get invisibility sand, it makes the Prince so translucent you can barely see him well enough to control his movements).

    There's also the Mega Man Battle Network games, which are sort of a card-based action RPG. The only one I've played is 3, and I'm given to understand that's considered the best, with 1-2 being decent but not as good and 4-6 being progressively crappier.

    Drill Dozer is a great game, and it's too bad you weren't looking a couple months ago when Best Buy had it on clearance for $10.

    Games to avoid:

    Sigma Star Saga. Sorry to whoever recommended it above, but this game is pretty awful. This is how the levels go down: You're walking around on some planet trying to fulfill a mission, and at random, you'll get called up into a spaceship to fight a shmup battle. This idea in itself isn't too bad, but the shmup battles are boring and repetitive, and you get called to one about once every three seconds, making progress on your actual mission difficult, to say the least. And, of course, there's no way to save until you complete the mission, and no checkpoints (so if you die you have to start all over), and the game doesn't even support sleep mode, so basically you have to be prepared to devote at least an hour to a handheld game in order to make any progress whatsoever.

    Scurge: Hive. I don't know what people saw in this game. I think some people just wanted to support a tiny publisher that was putting out something other than the usual clones of popular games, which is admirable, but the game itself was not very good. The controls sucked, and all the enemies I encountered were of the, "home in on you and move much faster than you can" variety, which wouldn't have been so bad except there tended to be about a dozen of them at the time. Add to that the almost ridiculously obvious ripoffs of Metroid, and you have to wonder what the hell people were thinking when they talked about how awesome this game is.

    Sonic Advance 3. I haven't played the first two, but I'm given to understand that they encompass largely the same gameplay as the third game, which is, "Hold the D-Pad right until you get to the end, but watch out for the invisible bottomless pits and impossible-to-avoid enemies!" This is everything that's been wrong with Sonic in the last ten years.

    Iridion 3D. This was also a launch title, I believe. It wasn't a bad idea; basically a shmup in Mode 7. Unfortunately, it was often difficult to tell where the hell you were shooting, not to mention how far away objects were and whether or not your ship was going to collide with them.

    R-Type III. Apparently, Irem (or whoever owns R-Type these days) refused/neglected to give the source code of the NES version to the developers of the GBA version, so they had to do everything from scratch -- on a port's budget and schedule. They even had to copy the sprites manually. It shows.

    Max Payne. Actually, I wrote a review of this on a website awhile back, so I'll just post it here behind a spoiler tag.
    Max Payne GBA is what happens when a money-grubbing publisher finds itself in possession of a very lucrative game license. In the wake of the success of the original PC version, as well as the PlayStation 2 and X-Box ports, and with Max Payne 2 coming out near the end of 2003, Rockstar Games progressed to the next logical step: Max Payne for the 3DO!

    Er, I mean GBA. Game Boy Advance. Well, they both make about the same amount of sense, at any rate.

    What's wrong with the game? Let's start with the graphics. Everything has a washed-out look to it; the walls, the characters, even the blood. In Mobius'1 defense, it's very possible that they thought they were working on a Game Boy Color port. Even the storyboard portions have a very bad color depth problem; although the fact that they seem to have simply copied and resized images from the original game doesn't help. In all seriousness, my hypothesis for the shittyness of the game's graphics is that (1) they ran out of space and (2) they ran out of system resources. The first is based on the fact that one of Max Payne GBA's two gimmicks is that the storyboard scenes are voice-acted, just as in the PC and console versions. As you are probably aware, sound files (even at the lowest possible quality) take up quite a bit of space, and a GBA Game Pak only has 32 megabytes to work with. My guess is that the voice acting takes up at least four or five megabytes, which cuts rather sharply into the amount of space that can be used for other aspects of the game (like graphics). Secondly, the GBA's processor runs at a mere 16.78 Mhz, and the handheld has less than half a meg of RAM. Even with its low-quality graphics, the game often slowed down quite noticeably (and I don't mean from Bullet Time). If Max Payne had utilized the GBA's maximum graphics potential, it may have been unplayable.

    Next up: How the developer managed to mess up a completely clichéd storyline. If you've played the PC or console versions of Max Payne, then you should know the plot. If you haven't played the PC or console versions of Max Payne, then there's a very good chance you work for Mobius Entertainment. Somehow, despite the fact that 95% of the text was copied directly from the original, they managed to create plotholes and story flaws where none had existed before. My favorite example: when you exit the Ragna Rock nightclub, Vladimir (the Russian mob boss) picks you up and drops you off at Punchinello's manor, telling you, "When this is all over, look me up. I could use a man like you." Trouble is, in the GBA version, this is the first time you ever talk to him. On the up side, Mobius (whether due to space constraints, deadlines, or sheer laziness, I don't know) didn't include those horribly frustrating playable nightmares from the original game, or the level I refer to as "Exploding Restaurant".

    Now let's talk gameplay. Maybe I should start with the fact that, for some reason, the directional buttons don't go the directions they're marked. Pressing the buttons in any horizontal or vertical direction move you diagonally, and vice versa. I imagine the thinking was that since the levels had been designed on 45-degree angles, then logically Max's normal directions should be oriented that way as well. Voltaire had something to say about this line of reasoning, but I doubt you want to hear about that.

    Remember the Bullet Time in the original Max Payne? Wasn't it cool being able to dodge bullets and aim while everything was in slow motion? Wouldn't you love to play a game where you're like that all the time?

    WHAT DO YOU MEAN, NO???!?!?!

    Ay, there's the rub: Bullet Time is a neat gimmick, but that's all it is: a gimmick. Basing a whole game around it is stupid and bound to fail, but - whether on purpose or through sheer incompetence - that's what Mobius did. It is nearly impossible to go through any room in the game without being killed or severely wounded2, unless you're using Bullet Time pretty much any time you encounter an enemy. There are a number of reasons for this: (1) Enemies begin shooting you before you can see them, (2) They have near-perfect aim (running around does very little, if anything, to keep from getting hit), (3) They can shoot in three dimensions and (apparently) through many objects, and you can't, and (4) there is no dodge ability (!) other than the shoot-dodge (which uses Bullet Time). (The only time you do normal dodges is when you run out of Bullet Time. Go figure.) Arguably because of this, Mobius made the enemies pathetically easy to kill (Jack Lupino, the hardest guy to take down in the original game, took a whole 15 or so Ingram rounds before he died) and they give you five "lives" per level (what is this, Sonic the Hedgehog?).

    Smaller irritations:
    • There are only two types of background music during the entire game; the title/storyboard music from the original (which is also played during most of the actual game action in the GBA version), and some "action beat" music which is probably from the original, but I can't really place.
    • Objects which need to be "activated" by Max often need him to stand in counterintuitive places, or will only work from one direction but not the other, even though in real life it wouldn't matter.
    • Several times, text from the storyboards would also be displayed in a completely different part, in-game. I chalk this up to laziness on the developer's part.
    • There is no sleep mode (!).
    • There is no mid-level saving. The game will only be saved when you beat a level.

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  • Niceguyeddie616Niceguyeddie616 All you feed me is PUFFINS! I need NOURISHMENT!Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Two more GBA games you shouldn't buy,

    Sega Smashpack, for some reason the Genesis emulation is godawful on the GBA, the sprites are too big, the controls are sometimes unresponsive, and every game seems to have one piece of background music from each of the games instead of the whole soundtrack for each.

    also, I think it's been stated in other threads, stay the hell away from Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis, it's one of the worst ports of any game I've ever seen.

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