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Dedicated, Hard-Working Comic Artist Wanted

ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Artist's Corner
All right guys, pretty much all of you have agreed unanimously that I'm a shit artist. I'm working every day to improve and try to get better, but in the mean time, I'd like to try my hand at just writing a comic, rather than drawing it under the false impression I'm a good artist, for once. That being said, I'm looking for someone who has professional-quality work, can meet deadlines and work consistently, and is willing to take some chances.

I have around 20 fully fleshed-out concepts for different comics, varying widely in genre, all of them having a concise beginning, middle, and end, ranging from graphic novels, one-shots, to on-going or limited series'. I'm very easy to work with, I'd like to consider myself a better writer than artist, I always take an artist's input into consideration, and hope that there'll be someone here who's talented and has a desire -as well as I do- to make some good comics, rather than the usuals who frequent the topics I make, and simply mock and degrade me.

Yes, this is a non-profit gig, as of now. If one or more of you would like to pair up with me, we create a comic we deem worthy of submitting to publishers, and if the unlikely outcome of us getting any sort of profit occurs, everything will be split 50-50 between us.

If there's anyone here interested, please inquire further as to what sort of ideas I have, etc. My only request is that if you're not interested, don't be a dick, don't needlessly be an asshole and rip me to shreds. Thank you.

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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
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  • misosoupmisosoup Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    wrong thread.

    Think pre-post, is this a question? am I posting art? or is this just a doodle?

    Then take this knowledge collected from the previous questions and apply your text to the appropriate thread.

    or just read the rules, either way

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
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  • ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Well, last time I made the mistake of...

    1. Posting my own art.
    2. Using what I guess is a universally shitty concept as an example.
    3. People seemed to think I sounded demanding or something last time.

    Finding a half-decent artist that's even semi-reliable is harder than Michael Jackson on a school bus. I've exhausted practically every option I can think of to find one, and I figured it might be worth one more shot to try again here. If this topic doesn't belong in this forum, sorry.

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    "For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
    --John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
  • ImDrawingABlankImDrawingABlank Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I think what they mean is that you need to post an example of your own work for critiquing, and actually give them the opportunity to sample it without having to get ahold of you privately to arrange to have some sent over. Public critique of your work could help you figure out why you can't find an artist if there is a problem with what you have wrote etc.

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    Well put, Blank.

    What say you, Zeph?

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  • ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Would you like samples of my art or of a possible comic idea? Given past experience, I'm pretty sure you'll be displeased with the art. The writing, I have yet to see anyone's opinion of yet (here at least).

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    "For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
    --John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm pretty sure we can't gauge whether or not your modest proposal sounds any good unless we have some of your writing to mull over.

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  • Dead China DollDead China Doll Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Zephonate wrote: »
    Would you like samples of my art or of a possible comic idea? Given past experience, I'm pretty sure you'll be displeased with the art. The writing, I have yet to see anyone's opinion of yet (here at least).

    Go to the writer's forum and show off your work. You'll get input. It may come slowly.

    And even if you don't, there are other communities that will be more helpful.

    I will say, however, that I did read your idea about Tyler and I find it very cliche. But that's just my personal opinion. I often dislike the story of the young adolescent MALE hero of unknown origins living in terrible conditions oft to discover his unknown potential (with the exception of Luke Skywalker because Luke Skywalker's dorkiness balanced it out)

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  • ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Okay, here's an example of one of my comic ideas. I created this with a friend of mine, and there are some obvious influences in there (Kill Bill, etc.), but the actual plot goes much deeper than the summary.

    Since the fall of the Roman Empire, an organization of assassins alike in principle to the Illuminati has existed. Born in China, the organization goes by the moniker TAO, which translated into English, means “the way”. From those historic days onward, TAO and its legion of deadly followers have caused and taken part in deaths that have forever changed the destiny of humanity as we know it. But events such as power struggles, internal fighting, and a difference of moral beliefs eventually caused TAO to disband, breaking off into five smaller organizations: SIN, SORROW, SALVATION, HOPE, and THE WAY (being the last remnants of the original TAO itself), each organization rooting itself in a different country and performing assassinations both in secret for their country’s respective government, and for their own personal gain.
    SIN is the organization we shall focus upon for most of our story. In the wake of TAO’s separation, its former lieutenants who formed the five assassin groups took on the names of their own organization. Thus, SIN is led by a man known simply as SIN. A spry man approaching old age, he is a father figure to those who swear allegiance to him. He instructs his “students” to view the organization SIN as if it were a family, each assassin being an in-name brother and sister to one another, creating an iron-clad bond of camaraderie, friendship, and dedication to their work. They are the best of the best. Their exploits are the stuff of legend.
    The members of SIN come from all around the world. No two members are approached to join in the same way. Some are recruited by SIN himself through college applications more akin to in-depth background checks, some fall into the job through various activities such as military excursions in which they garner SIN’s attention, infamous acts of terrorism, death row inmates abducted from their falsified executions, or even taken in as strays with no homes and trained to be ruthless killing machines.
    Initiation into SIN consists of first being “killed” by SIN himself, which entails being shot in a non-vital area with his Colt Single Action Army, the placing of an empty grave in the soon-to-be assassin’s hometown, erasing of all records of that person’s existence, and the creation of their new identity, being their middle name, and a number assigned by SIN.
    However, the inevitable conflict arises when Vale and Yurika –two-thirds of SIN’s elites, the Trilogy of Death- break three of SIN’s cardinal rules. Once you’re in, you’re in for life. Betrayal of the family is punishable by death. And no member of SIN can fall in love with another.
    On one fateful night that will forever send ripples through the futures of every single member of the progeny of TAO, Vale and Yurika attempt to run away together and leave their lives of contract killing behind. But in steps Jericho, Yurika’s older brother (the only member of SIN to actually be blood-related to another), who executes his sister for breaking SIN’s rules. After an emotional and harrowing battle, Jericho wounds Vale to the point of near death, putting him in a coma for three long years.
    After awakening in the estate of the Ferrari Mafia family and subsequently being tortured for information which he does not remember, Vale is rescued by a former agent of SORROW, codenamed Rufus. An Irish fellow with a strong wit and a desire to bring SIN down, he and Vale form an alliance in order to hunt down Jericho and attain sweet vengeance, regain Vale’s lost memory, and systematically destroy SIN once and for all. But what the duo doesn’t know is that the long-coming war between the five assassin families is finally in sight. With hundreds of lives in the balance, and the time drawing shorter to choose sides, Vale must uncover the secrets behind TAO’s inception, SIN’s past, his ultimate purpose in life, and decide whether he is to become the hero of this tale, or just another nameless number.

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    "For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
    --John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Sounds kind of similar to La Femme Nakita and Once a Thief.

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  • ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Sort of in the same vein, I guess.

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    "For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
    --John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
  • ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    So...no takers then, I guess.

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    "For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
    --John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
  • MykonosMykonos Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Personally, I think you need to ask yourself how bad you want to see this comic dream of yours become a reality, and decide from there what your willing to do make it happen.

    If your truly serious about this, then the first thing you would do is narrow down your 20-something list of rushed/clichéd concepts and find yourself one or two that have some real potential. Then focus your mind and energy on one and just get to work. Finally, I would advise you quit wasting time on message boards naively attempting to arrange partnerships with artist, if anything due to the lack of any tangible credentials stemming mainly from your part.

    I know its a bitch to hear, but if you really want this done, then the best thing is to just man up and get it done yourself. I too want get a graphic novel out there, so I know where your coming from, but I'm also sketching about five hours a day and practice incessantly on photoshop because I dont want to wait or rely on others to get my dream realized. Seriously, do what the other posters have said and just bust your ass and practice. (It works, trust me)

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    You could always hire a pro. I have a friend who's done just that. They're pitching to image right now.

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    Pros don't work Pro Bono.

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Neither does anyone on this forum.

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    That's not true, some of us work Pro Boner (MBOS™)

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    Yes, but that's because it's considered art when somebody is on their knees in front of me.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Zing!

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  • RedPearlRedPearl Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Isn't this a prime example of a lockable thread? No pretty pictures!

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  • GrifterGrifter title goes here 32, 64Moderator mod
    edited August 2007
    First of all, we don't need any back seat mods. If you see two mods making posts in a thread then you probably don't need to make a comment about locking. Secondly, I was getting to it but I had to take care of some shit at work first.

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