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Looking to buy a new 360 game
Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Basically I'm looking for something other than a driving game.
I already bought Oblivion, and returned it, because I had momentarily forgotten that I SUCK at playing shooters and anything else first person with a controller.
So in that vein, please don't recommend Gears of War, Bioshock, or Halo 3.
Are there any recommendations? I was thinking about a Splinter Cell game, possibly, because of the decreased emphasis on shooting compared to other "shooters" and because I love the concept, and loved Splinter Cell on the PC.
Absolutely. I don't own a 360 myself, but a friend of mine does. I was over his house for a week straight (minus work and sleeping) just killing zombies.
dead rising
viva pinata
skate. when it comes out next month
stuntman: ignition
blue dragon
overlord
crackdown
perfect dark zero
kameo: elements of power
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Um... you know you can play Oblivion in Third Person, right?
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
dead rising
viva pinata
skate. when it comes out next month
stuntman: ignition
blue dragon
overlord
crackdown
perfect dark zero
kameo: elements of power
Perfect Dark: Zero is a first-person shooter, and a really bad one in my opinion.
OP:
I'll recommend Dead Rising above everything else in my library, but Viva Pinata is a fun game to break out now and then and Crackdown is a lot of fun.
Since you like racing games, pick up Burnout Revenge. Can't be more than 20 bucks anywhere at this point. And it's a lot of fun.
ive enjoyed paying 20 bucks for virtua Tennis 3. bright colors, pick up and play mechanic, solid gameplay including world tournament, Live competitions, and minigames. good replay value. if you have a good sound system, turn up the bass and enjoy yourself.
i play at least 2 sets every night. i think its already paid for itself in value
Saint's Row - Really fun GTA rip-off, but too short of a game, so you may wanna buy it used & cheap!
Just Cause - Another fun, but VERY short game. Don't be mislead by the "303 missions" on the cover! It's only got about 23 story line missions, and the rest are redundant and boring side missions that consist of the same crap over and over again.
GUN - This game is FUN, but sadly, it's short too. (they just don't make epic games like San Andreas anymore!)
Stuntman: Ignition - It's SOOOOOOO good.
Far Cry Instincts Predator - I know you said you don't like FPS, but neither do I, (hate 'em!), yet for some reason this game had me hooked! It comes with 2 story lines also, so it's basically like buying 2 farcry games for the price of one!
Um... you know you can play Oblivion in Third Person, right?
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
Which I think I mentioned that I dislike :P
I...what?
Isn't that basically the same thing except that you can go in diagonals as well as cardinals?
Um... you know you can play Oblivion in Third Person, right?
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
Which I think I mentioned that I dislike :P
I...what?
Isn't that basically the same thing except that you can go in diagonals as well as cardinals?
Yeah, uh//
Dude.
I think console gaming isn't for you.
Every game in the world will be analog with your movement.
Also, I wish I could jump into your mind so I could even begin to understand your rationalization of wanting LESS freedom of movement in games. I figure it would be like looking into pandoras box, causing your brain to melt and drip out of your nose.
Um... you know you can play Oblivion in Third Person, right?
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
Which I think I mentioned that I dislike :P
I...what?
Isn't that basically the same thing except that you can go in diagonals as well as cardinals?
Yeah, uh//
Dude.
I think console gaming isn't for you.
Every game in the world will be analog with your movement.
Also, I wish I could jump into your mind so I could even begin to understand your rationalization of wanting LESS freedom of movement in games. I figure it would be like looking into pandoras box, causing your brain to melt and drip out of your nose.
Don't quote me if you're gonna make fun of the guy, he might think it was me! Honestly though, I think this requires some elaboration, because I just don't understand what you (Dhalpir) mean.
As for real suggestions, Fight Night: Round 3 is a lot of fun, and Virtua Fighter 5 is coming soon. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance is basically a fun dungeon crawler with familiar faces. It's a little monotonous, but ganking people with Dr. Strange will never get old. I won't suggest Rainbow Six: Vegas, even though it's the most fun I have with the system. If you do want another racing game, I much prefer Burnout's arcadey style, but I was never much on sim-racers.
Hit Live Arcade if you can, loads of awesome stuff on there, and not so much first person stuff if that isn't your bag.
I'd recommend (as I seem to every weekend) Geometry Wars, Heavy Weapon, Bomberman, Castlevania etc etc try the demos see what you fancy. Some stuff is half price this weekend too.
The Splinter Cell game (Double Agent) game you mention in the OP isn't the greatest in the series, but it is pretty good, and can be found for bargain bucket prices now.
Also, as has been said Dead Rising is awesome.
Maybe Viva Pinata? Quite "kiddy" and not for everyone, but, hey, I loved it.
Lost Planet? Third person and a good blast. Again, bargain price these days.
Finally, Guitar Hero 2
Also, as an aside, I used to exclusively use Goldeneye/PD 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, could never use the default setup, and yet using dual analogue feels perfectly awesome to me (even an improvement on that classic layout, infact) weird, eh? Horses for courses and all.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited September 2007
except, the way I see it, you CAN move in unrestricted directions using the single-analog plus buttons method, because where you're looking controls where you move.
As I said, it all stems from hours of Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark 64. Its kind of hard to explain if you've never played those games, but there was something about the N64 controller that was just made of awesome when it came to shooters.
The day Microsoft brings out an N64 lookalike for the 360 is the day that I pay whatever price they name for it.
Wartech is $30 new some places now. Very unique game if you like quirk, and that is pretty much the perfect price point for it. I'd definitely rent/borrow first if you can though, it's not for everyone.
except, the way I see it, you CAN move in unrestricted directions using the single-analog plus buttons method, because where you're looking controls where you move.
As I said, it all stems from hours of Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark 64. Its kind of hard to explain if you've never played those games, but there was something about the N64 controller that was just made of awesome when it came to shooters.
The day Microsoft brings out an N64 lookalike for the 360 is the day that I pay whatever price they name for it.
So... C buttons are WASD equivalent, and the analog is look around?
I fail to see the difference, except that with buttons, you can't control movement as precisely (speed, angle, etc.) O_o
Are they just backwards to you? Or are you trying to use one analogue to strafe and look up/down, and the other to turn and move forward/backward?
Anyways, along with the suggestions from others above, and avoiding FPS: I liked PGR3 and DiRT, for some more racing games (which you aren't looking for at the moment, but might consider later).
I guess I can't think of much else...
Well, that was a big help to your cause.
PS: have you considered backwards compatible games, or do you have an Xbox and library of games already?
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One day, I will draw a push-pin so precisely that I will be able to successfully invade and take over a small country with a 91 Nissan pickup, a camera, and 13 cats.
Um... you know you can play Oblivion in Third Person, right?
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
Which I think I mentioned that I dislike :P
Ummm... ok.
As a side note...
I am purchasing a PS3 and looking for games that don't use the Triangle button. I dislike this button intensely. Any suggestions?
I hear good things about that DS. But is there a version with only one screen? Two would probably be distracting. And no gimmicky touch screen controls, thank you very much. The last thing video games need is to try anything new since 1975.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
edited September 2007
Pushing a control stick forward is a completely different tactile response to pushing a button DOWN, even if the button represents forward.
Pushing a control stick forward is a completely different tactile response to pushing a button DOWN, even if the button represents forward.
Well I hate to say it but you probably made a huge mistake buying an xbox 360, analog control is superior in many ways to digital control - you probably should've spend the 360 money on a gaming pc (minus the monitor my pc was $370 and runs bioshock in 1280X960 at a fairly decent 64fps)
Just about every 3D console game after Mario 64 and Zelda OOT use the analog stick to move. There are a few exceptions on systems with one analog stick where looking was considered more important (for example, the standard FPS control setup on the Dreamcast) but ever since dual analog became the standard that has vanished.
Seems like there'll always be people who just don't like analog sticks. I have this friend who still refers to it as anal-log and has to since the days of trying to play Gran Tourismo with dual shocks.
Ever thought about getting a Wii or something along those lines? Most of my PC gaming junkie friends seem to only really take to the Wii...
Just about every 3D console game after Mario 64 and Zelda OOT use the analog stick to move. There are a few exceptions on systems with one analog stick where looking was considered more important (for example, the standard FPS control setup on the Dreamcast) but ever since dual analog became the standard that has vanished.
You need to get over this problem.
Oh, I have no problem with a single analog stick.
Dual analog is my mental block.
ok.
lets proceed on the assumption I want to get over this block.
What games can people recommend to help me get over this? Preferably something relatively slow-paced, so that control schemes don't affect my performance too much until I get the hang of it.
Are there any recommendations? I was thinking about a Splinter Cell game, possibly, because of the decreased emphasis on shooting compared to other "shooters" and because I love the concept, and loved Splinter Cell on the PC.
Rainbow Six Vegas or GRAW2. Both have short single player campaigns but they're a lot of fun. IMO GRAW2 is better.
Splinter Cell: DA sucked balls, huge disappointment after Chaos Theory's goodness.
edit - not dual analog stick? guitar hero 2, definitely
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These threads pop up like, every two weeks. Dead Rising, C&C3, and Crackdown are three non FPS's that may float your boat. Or not.
Absolutely. I don't own a 360 myself, but a friend of mine does. I was over his house for a week straight (minus work and sleeping) just killing zombies.
viva pinata
skate. when it comes out next month
stuntman: ignition
blue dragon
overlord
crackdown
perfect dark zero
kameo: elements of power
Yeah, I know. Basically my gripe is with the dual analog setup.
I hate using an analog stick to move, with a PASSION. As I see it, movement should be a four-direction thing. Forward-backwards-strafeleft-straferight in the vein of WASD+mouse, and analog should be reserved for looking around.
It doesn't come from my PC gaming, although that probably helped to cement it in my mind, rather, it comes from hours upon hours upon hours of 4 player matches of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark on the N64, played using the 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, where you would move using the C-buttons and look using the control stick.
Since those days, I've never been able to find a controller that makes FPSs as easy to play as the N64 controller did, mainly because they all seem to have dual analog sticks.
Which I think I mentioned that I dislike :P
Perfect Dark: Zero is a first-person shooter, and a really bad one in my opinion.
OP:
I'll recommend Dead Rising above everything else in my library, but Viva Pinata is a fun game to break out now and then and Crackdown is a lot of fun.
Since you like racing games, pick up Burnout Revenge. Can't be more than 20 bucks anywhere at this point. And it's a lot of fun.
If you like GTA style games get Saints Row.
....And get BioShock, even if you suck at FPS games, its just too good to pass up on.
ive enjoyed paying 20 bucks for virtua Tennis 3. bright colors, pick up and play mechanic, solid gameplay including world tournament, Live competitions, and minigames. good replay value. if you have a good sound system, turn up the bass and enjoy yourself.
i play at least 2 sets every night. i think its already paid for itself in value
Just Cause - Another fun, but VERY short game. Don't be mislead by the "303 missions" on the cover! It's only got about 23 story line missions, and the rest are redundant and boring side missions that consist of the same crap over and over again.
GUN - This game is FUN, but sadly, it's short too. (they just don't make epic games like San Andreas anymore!)
Stuntman: Ignition - It's SOOOOOOO good.
Far Cry Instincts Predator - I know you said you don't like FPS, but neither do I, (hate 'em!), yet for some reason this game had me hooked! It comes with 2 story lines also, so it's basically like buying 2 farcry games for the price of one!
the end.
Isn't that basically the same thing except that you can go in diagonals as well as cardinals?
Dude.
I think console gaming isn't for you.
Every game in the world will be analog with your movement.
Also, I wish I could jump into your mind so I could even begin to understand your rationalization of wanting LESS freedom of movement in games. I figure it would be like looking into pandoras box, causing your brain to melt and drip out of your nose.
As for real suggestions, Fight Night: Round 3 is a lot of fun, and Virtua Fighter 5 is coming soon. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance is basically a fun dungeon crawler with familiar faces. It's a little monotonous, but ganking people with Dr. Strange will never get old. I won't suggest Rainbow Six: Vegas, even though it's the most fun I have with the system. If you do want another racing game, I much prefer Burnout's arcadey style, but I was never much on sim-racers.
I'd recommend (as I seem to every weekend) Geometry Wars, Heavy Weapon, Bomberman, Castlevania etc etc try the demos see what you fancy. Some stuff is half price this weekend too.
The Splinter Cell game (Double Agent) game you mention in the OP isn't the greatest in the series, but it is pretty good, and can be found for bargain bucket prices now.
Also, as has been said Dead Rising is awesome.
Maybe Viva Pinata? Quite "kiddy" and not for everyone, but, hey, I loved it.
Lost Planet? Third person and a good blast. Again, bargain price these days.
Finally, Guitar Hero 2
Also, as an aside, I used to exclusively use Goldeneye/PD 1.2 "Solitaire" controls, could never use the default setup, and yet using dual analogue feels perfectly awesome to me (even an improvement on that classic layout, infact) weird, eh? Horses for courses and all.
As I said, it all stems from hours of Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark 64. Its kind of hard to explain if you've never played those games, but there was something about the N64 controller that was just made of awesome when it came to shooters.
The day Microsoft brings out an N64 lookalike for the 360 is the day that I pay whatever price they name for it.
So... C buttons are WASD equivalent, and the analog is look around?
I fail to see the difference, except that with buttons, you can't control movement as precisely (speed, angle, etc.) O_o
Are they just backwards to you? Or are you trying to use one analogue to strafe and look up/down, and the other to turn and move forward/backward?
Anyways, along with the suggestions from others above, and avoiding FPS: I liked PGR3 and DiRT, for some more racing games (which you aren't looking for at the moment, but might consider later).
I guess I can't think of much else...
Well, that was a big help to your cause.
PS: have you considered backwards compatible games, or do you have an Xbox and library of games already?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The Picnic Table Maneuver.
Ummm... ok.
As a side note...
I am purchasing a PS3 and looking for games that don't use the Triangle button. I dislike this button intensely. Any suggestions?
Well I hate to say it but you probably made a huge mistake buying an xbox 360, analog control is superior in many ways to digital control - you probably should've spend the 360 money on a gaming pc (minus the monitor my pc was $370 and runs bioshock in 1280X960 at a fairly decent 64fps)
You need to get over this problem.
Ever thought about getting a Wii or something along those lines? Most of my PC gaming junkie friends seem to only really take to the Wii...
Oh, I have no problem with a single analog stick.
Dual analog is my mental block.
ok.
lets proceed on the assumption I want to get over this block.
What games can people recommend to help me get over this? Preferably something relatively slow-paced, so that control schemes don't affect my performance too much until I get the hang of it.
Rainbow Six Vegas or GRAW2. Both have short single player campaigns but they're a lot of fun. IMO GRAW2 is better.
Splinter Cell: DA sucked balls, huge disappointment after Chaos Theory's goodness.
edit - not dual analog stick? guitar hero 2, definitely