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Super Smash Bros Brawl! "...the two of them get along great! ...I think.

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edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
The Super Smash Bros. Brawl thread.
How many more threads will there be! Nobody knows! :o


Known Returning Characters:

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*Not listed:

Capt. Falcon - Is highly probable, due to his rival being found in an Assist Trophy

New Characters
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*Not Listed:

Solid Snake - Also shown in previous trailer.

Final Smashes
Mario - Mario Finale
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Link - Triforce Slash
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Pikachu - Volt Tackle
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Samus - Zero Laser
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Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation
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Donkey Kong - Konga Beat
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Yoshi - Super Dragon
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Pit - Palutena's Army
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New Toys

Crates and Barrels: What better to start with than basics. These item containers have been revamped to support the themes of certain levels.
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Assist Trophy: This is the Pokeball of the Nintendo Universe. Any kind of cameo you could think of comes from within...
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Known Assist trophies:

Hammer Bros.
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Nintendog
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Samurai Goroh
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Dr. Wright
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Knuckle Joe
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Devil
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Andross-retro
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Lyn
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Pokeball: An alltime favorite. Which still randomly gives you a poke to cause massive destruction with.
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Chikorita
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Goldeen
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Groudon
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Deoxys
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Munchlax
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Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player.
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Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It might be more recognizable as a 'Roman Candle'. We saw it briefly in the short clip from Min-E3.
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Banana Peel: Because Cliche's work.
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Bumper: A return from the 64, relatable to Melee's Flipper item. A new twist leaves this possible to plant mid-air.
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Pitfall: The item from Animal Crossing. Surprisingly, it caries its ability from Animal Crossing over very well. Simply making characters fall thru holes or thru platforms.
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Smoke Ball: An original item, soley based on obscurity. This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen.
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Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), this relates to Fox's Reflector, like the Screw Attack Ball relates to Samus' Screw Attack. Basically, it reflects projectiles.
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Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs.
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Announced Stages

Battlefield (Smash Bros.):
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Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine):
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Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island):
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Lylat Cruise (Starfox):
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Bridge to Eldin (Legend of Zelda):
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Smashville (Animal Crossing):
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Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong):
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Skyworld (Kid Icarus):
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Castle Seige (Fire Emblem):
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WarioWare Ince. (WarioWare)
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Pokemon Stadium 2 (Pokemon)
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Such Pretty Music:

Series Represented:

So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown:

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1. Smash Brothers
2. Donkey Kong
3. StarFox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. Earthbound/Mother
8. Pokemon
9. Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. Ice Climbers
15. Animal Crossing
16. Wario
17. ???
18. Kid Icarus


*18 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number

Discussion (Read: Bitchings)
These are some things to expect in regards to the updates. The type of updated listed, and the expected discussion that can follow.

Music update - Next day spent argueing about MIDI files vs Orchestrated.

Item update - Someone inevitably pisses off the competitve players with the "Why no items" arguement. Other than that, everyone is generally happy.

B Moves update - People are generally meh about this towards returning characters, pretty happy about it towards new characters.

Final Smash update - 1 of 2 updates people everyone appreciates.

New/Old Character update - Pretty cool to see old characters revamped. Pretty awesome to see brand new characters.

Stage update - Next day spent arguing about gimmick levels vs. Battlefield/Final Destination.

Tutorial update - Boring tutorials, but spectacular mode discussions.

Movie update - Dicks cumming, all of them, simultaneously, with super mushroom power-ups.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Frothing demand, etc. I honestly can't think of another game that has gotten this much renewed attention every single damn day for half a year out from release.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I hate NoE for not getting SSBB to europe before sometime in 2008.

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User
    edited September 2007
    man i will buy a wii in december just for this game

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Peewi wrote: »
    I hate NoE for not getting SSBB to europe before sometime in 2008.

    That's your punishment for living in Europe.

    Pata on
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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Smash Bros is a good game. I am excited for it.
    BLUE DOT

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Crazy Mario and his crazy F.L.U.D.D.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Frothing demand, etc. I honestly can't think of another game that has gotten this much renewed attention every single damn day for half a year out from release.

    Also, I still doubt that Sakurai is posting the biggest things SSBB has to offer yet. I'm sure he's planned out what he's going to announce when, and it'll probably be more and more exciting as time goes on, which will cause the huge attention that's already focused on its updates to grow and by the time it'll hit shelves....


    That's my prediction anyways.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    To continue the discussion from the previous thread:

    The reason why i would turn off smash balls is simple. Even if they do spawn in a fixed location, you're basically placing an 'I-Win' button on the stage that appears at different intervals. If you happen to be closer when it randomly appears, then I die, or vice versa.

    Again, it just comes down to the fact that I would rather play my opponent than play the items/stage/pissant luck.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Pata wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    I hate NoE for not getting SSBB to europe before sometime in 2008.

    That's your punishment for living in Europe.

    :cry:

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    To continue the discussion from the previous thread:

    The reason why i would turn off smash balls is simple. Even if they do spawn in a fixed location, you're basically placing an 'I-Win' button on the stage that appears at different intervals. If you happen to be closer when it randomly appears, then I die, or vice versa.

    Again, it just comes down to the fact that I would rather play my opponent than play the items/stage/pissant luck.

    I doubt Smash Balls will be possible to turn off.

    I suspect that actions in the fight will be what triggers them, perhaps a different action for each character.

    Pata on
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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    10:38 AM: Conference has officially started! Iwata is here along with several other Nintendo big wigs from Japan. The speaker is introducing everyone. Iwata got up and took a bow.

    Dear lord, let this happen again. Best 2 hours on this forum ever. I think that thread hit a page every 10-20 seconds.

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  • DondumsDondums Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    To continue the discussion from the previous thread:

    The reason why i would turn off smash balls is simple. Even if they do spawn in a fixed location, you're basically placing an 'I-Win' button on the stage that appears at different intervals. If you happen to be closer when it randomly appears, then I die, or vice versa.

    Again, it just comes down to the fact that I would rather play my opponent than play the items/stage/pissant luck.

    If I wanted a serious match, I'd probably follow suite.
    But if I'm just dicking around with friends (since, as my friends generally leech off my console so I'm better than them anyway), I usually leave the items on. Though, a lot of them have Wii's this time around, so this may change.

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Woo!

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  • MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Sweet! They changed up my main character. I hoping this FLUDD move is more useful than the tornado. I never used that move other than a small bit of recovery it offered.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Peewi wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    I hate NoE for not getting SSBB to europe before sometime in 2008.

    That's your punishment for living in Europe.

    :cry:

    Your tears only make me stronger.

    Pata on
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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    So 100 pages in 2 weeks.

    12 weeks till release.

    So we can expect 6 more threads? (@ 100 per) Damn Son.
    Only if the rate of poast remains constant.

    Which it almost definitely will not.

    Yeah I imagine some peaks when major announcements are made.

    Also, man, just over 12 weeks till release!!! :lol:

    And when we get closer the posting will be more frequent. I mean, the week before? Two weeks? Plus, I'm assuming that that's when they're going to start reeling out the huge super-awesome announcements, so that they can control the hypemobile up to release, to ensure maximum explosions of dicks. We'll be going through a thread a fucking day.

    It'll be like they just released the Wii. Again.O_o

    And just imagine what it'll be like when it's actually released. The internet will explode and stay exploded for like, a month at least.

    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

    Both.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    OP is missing a few Pokemon. Chikorita and Goldeen at least.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Sakurai is such a tease, what's the electric version of pokemon stadium like?
    It's shocking

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    So 100 pages in 2 weeks.

    12 weeks till release.

    So we can expect 6 more threads? (@ 100 per) Damn Son.
    Only if the rate of poast remains constant.

    Which it almost definitely will not.

    Yeah I imagine some peaks when major announcements are made.

    Also, man, just over 12 weeks till release!!! :lol:

    And when we get closer the posting will be more frequent. I mean, the week before? Two weeks? Plus, I'm assuming that that's when they're going to start reeling out the huge super-awesome announcements, so that they can control the hypemobile up to release, to ensure maximum explosions of dicks. We'll be going through a thread a fucking day.

    It'll be like they just released the Wii. Again.O_o

    And just imagine what it'll be like when it's actually released. The internet will explode and stay exploded for like, a month at least.

    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

    It was like a million intertubes crying out in unison, then suddenly silenced.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    Is there a link to what nintendo said in their press conference?

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Is there a link to what nintendo said in their press conference?

    Damn I guess I was too vague.

    Read this, starting at around page 40

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=6728

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Viewtiful Joe should be in this game.

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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    tachyon wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    And just imagine what it'll be like when it's actually released. The internet will explode and stay exploded for like, a month at least.

    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

    It was like a million intertubes crying out in unison, then suddenly silenced.

    The internet? I'm more worried about the entire world falling apart. No one to take the trash away, or police the streets, or clean our water. All too busy playing Smash.

    We'll be in Mad Max mode within a few years.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So if you check the Tingle thread, it appears that the development team that's covering the "Make Tingle its own franchise" initiative hasn't talked to Sakurai about anything.

    It's kind of sad, he already has two games, I was actually expecting him to be playable.

    At the very least he should be an assist. He's too big a character not to be.

    Edit: Top page, sweet.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Nickle wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    And just imagine what it'll be like when it's actually released. The internet will explode and stay exploded for like, a month at least.

    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

    It was like a million intertubes crying out in unison, then suddenly silenced.

    The internet? I'm more worried about the entire world falling apart. No one to take the trash away, or police the streets, or clean our water. All too busy playing Smash.

    We'll be in Mad Max mode within a few years.

    No, that can't be right; everyone will still be Smashing...I'd give it a decade or two....

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  • ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    At first I thought it'd be rad if Mario's aerial down-B was FLUDD's hover nozzle

    But thinking about it now, it really wouldn't be fair at all

    Get above someone trying to recover and spray away

    "Yeah, you stay down there, bitch"

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  • PurpleMonkeyPurpleMonkey Why so derp? Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Nickle wrote: »
    tachyon wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    And just imagine what it'll be like when it's actually released. The internet will explode and stay exploded for like, a month at least.

    Is that because of all the continuous poasting or because everyone normally employed to fix exploded intertubes will be far too busy playing SSB:B?

    It was like a million intertubes crying out in unison, then suddenly silenced.

    The internet? I'm more worried about the entire world falling apart. No one to take the trash away, or police the streets, or clean our water. All too busy playing Smash.

    We'll be in Mad Max mode within a few years.

    Lord Humungous confirmed!

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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I predict this game will outsell Super Mario Bros.

    In fact, 40 million seems like a low estimate.

    Nintendo's first billion-seller?

    That's only one copy for every 6 people on the planet. It seems reasonable.

    Hell, throw em in different colored cases, and the game will sell a few hundred million in Japan alone.

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  • rattletraprattletrap Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So if we assume there are only the 18 series represented, there are three missing right? And one of those is MGS? So two unknowns, right?

    Are there any other series that we know are going to be included? Ice Climbers and Game and Watch are the only two from Melee that we're missing, but neither of those characters have been confirmed.

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    post for great justice

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    rattletrap wrote: »
    So if we assume there are only the 18 series represented, there are three missing right? And one of those is MGS? So two unknowns, right?

    Are there any other series that we know are going to be included? Ice Climbers and Game and Watch are the only two from Melee that we're missing, but neither of those characters have been confirmed.

    I'm still hoping for something from Punch-Out and Pikmin.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Cokomon wrote: »
    rattletrap wrote: »
    So if we assume there are only the 18 series represented, there are three missing right? And one of those is MGS? So two unknowns, right?

    Are there any other series that we know are going to be included? Ice Climbers and Game and Watch are the only two from Melee that we're missing, but neither of those characters have been confirmed.

    I'm still hoping for something from Punch-Out and Pikmin.

    Plus, just because the largest numbered image is 18 doesn't mean that there are only 18 serieses; it could just as easily be a nice round 20.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    rattletrap wrote: »
    So if we assume there are only the 18 series represented, there are three missing right? And one of those is MGS? So two unknowns, right?
    I'm tired and my brain is acting wonky, but...

    Well, if I'm not mistaken, that 18 number was worked out by someone looking at the site code or whatever, right?

    Now, what if there are unlockables that are not from any already announced (or going-to-be-announced) series. They wouldn't be on the site (because that'd spoil the 'unlockable' surprise) and so there wouldn't be any code for them or something, right?

    So, you know, it might be more than 18.

    Or something.

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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I am telling you now, Rygar is one of those missing franchises.

    There's already a Wii game in the works, anyway.

    Plus, he'd be awesome, and different enough from the rest of the cast.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    rattletrap wrote: »
    So if we assume there are only the 18 series represented, there are three missing right? And one of those is MGS? So two unknowns, right?
    I'm tired and my brain is acting wonky, but...

    Well, if I'm not mistaken, that 18 number was worked out by someone looking at the site code or whatever, right?

    Now, what if there are unlockables that are not from any already announced (or going-to-be-announced) series. They wouldn't be on the site (because that'd spoil the 'unlockable' surprise) and so there wouldn't be any code for them or something, right?

    So, you know, it might be more than 18.

    Or something.

    That's why he said "if we assume there are only the 18 series represented."

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  • rattletraprattletrap Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    That's why he said "if we assume there are only the 18 series represented."

    Yeah I was just trying to figure out what is the maximum number of surprises we can expect. It sounds like there's at least two - unless it's Ice Climbers and G&W. So we actually know nothing at all.

    It's interesting we haven't seen Snake's icon yet though. It leaves the possibility that we won't have MGS as a stand-alone series placeholder, but a single icon/series covering all of the "NOTendo" content.


    I'm still holding out for the wrench though. Please include some Advance Wars COs. That will make me so happy.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    No, we've seen Snake's symbol, it's a MG symbol. But it was on the old site, before they started assigning numbers to the icons.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    rattletrap wrote: »
    That's why he said "if we assume there are only the 18 series represented."

    Yeah I was just trying to figure out what is the maximum number of surprises we can expect. It sounds like there's at least two - unless it's Ice Climbers and G&W. So we actually know nothing at all.

    It's interesting we haven't seen Snake's icon yet though. It leaves the possibility that we won't have MGS as a stand-alone series placeholder, but a single icon/series covering all of the "NOTendo" content.

    Actually, we have seen Snake's/MGS's logo: The Kojima FOX logo. It was on the old website for Snake's profile before it went into it's blog format.

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  • rattletraprattletrap Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Jimothy wrote: »
    No, we've seen Snake's symbol, it's a MG symbol. But it was on the old site, before they started assigning numbers to the icons.

    Well shit. So much for that idea.

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