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Problems with dual component cables. Arg.

Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-FedRegistered User regular
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
I have a cheap GameStop brand dual component cable. Triple, actually. It has three ends, one each for the Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox360. I only have it connected to the PS2 and 360.

The problem is that when it's connected to both, the PS2 has no sound. The 360 works fine either way but the PS2 only works when I disconnect the cable from the 360.

Any ideas how to fix this?

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    That's how the cable is designed to work. You only plug it into one system at a time.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    agoaj wrote: »
    That's how the cable is designed to work. You only plug it into one system at a time.


    No, it says on the package you don't have to switch cables anymore. Just leave everything plugged in.

    Can it not do that? If so, why does the 360 work fine?

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  • MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Does it work if both have the cables plugged in but the XBOX 360's power is unplugged? I'm mostly just asking out of curiosity, because it sounds like either way it'd be an inherent flaw of the cables that you can't really fix without installing a switch or something.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Does it work if both have the cables plugged in but the XBOX 360's power is unplugged? I'm mostly just asking out of curiosity, because it sounds like either way it'd be an inherent flaw of the cables that you can't really fix without installing a switch or something.


    I didn't check that but I was wondering it myself. I may try if I have any free time at all this evening.

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  • MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    One more thing: how much did you end up paying for those (AKA how much would you get if you returned them)? With that information other folks can help you find comparably priced multi-system cables that should work as promised (if any exist).

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    One more thing: how much did you end up paying for those (AKA how much would you get if you returned them)? With that information other folks can help you find comparably priced multi-system cables that should work as promised (if any exist).


    15$ or 20$. I bought them about a year ago tho; the 360 and PS2 were never close enough to have them both plugged in at once until recently.

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  • CZroeCZroe Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Anyway, you can get one of those official Sony break-out boxes that gives you RCA cinch connectors for everything along with a second multi-out port.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

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  • CZroeCZroe Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

    Nope. The digital out on a GCN (model 1) is digital. It requires a proprietary chip to convert to analog/component. This chip has not been reverse engineered. It wouldn't even make sense to do so when two thirds of the GCNs out there don't even have the digital connector.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    CZroe wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

    Nope. The digital out on a GCN (model 1) is digital. It requires a proprietary chip to convert to analog/component. This chip has not been reverse engineered. It wouldn't even make sense to do so when two thirds of the GCNs out there don't even have the digital connector.


    Except I have this one and it works. The picture is sharper the one time I used it.

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  • JobastionJobastion Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I have a cheap GameStop brand dual component cable. Triple, actually. It has three ends, one each for the Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox360. I only have it connected to the PS2 and 360.

    The problem is that when it's connected to both, the PS2 has no sound. The 360 works fine either way but the PS2 only works when I disconnect the cable from the 360.

    Any ideas how to fix this?

    I seem to remember my PS2 required the use of the optical out when using component. Course... the component cables I have don't have audio connectors anyway.
    (Hint. Monster Cbls. I worked for someone. They were cheap. I swear.)

    That said, it should work the way you've got it connected, but if you've got the option, try using the optical out.

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  • MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

    Nope. The digital out on a GCN (model 1) is digital. It requires a proprietary chip to convert to analog/component. This chip has not been reverse engineered. It wouldn't even make sense to do so when two thirds of the GCNs out there don't even have the digital connector.


    Except I have this one and it works. The picture is sharper the one time I used it.
    Interesting. Does it plug into the digital out slot and actually enable progressive scan (480P)? It might just plug into the standard definition output and provide sharper picture like S-Video just by having a better connection. Do you have a picture of it?

    All the combo cables I've found thus far explicitly state that the Gamecube portion is only a standard definition signal (albeit probably somewhat enhanced compared to the pack-in cables).

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  • NitsuaNitsua South CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm using a third party component cable that works for both XBox and PS2... however, from what I've seen, you can only have one console plugged in at a time or else you don't get anything. Besides that, there is sound from the PS2 using it, so no need for optical, just unplug it from your 360, it's not as if that's too difficult really.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

    Nope. The digital out on a GCN (model 1) is digital. It requires a proprietary chip to convert to analog/component. This chip has not been reverse engineered. It wouldn't even make sense to do so when two thirds of the GCNs out there don't even have the digital connector.


    Except I have this one and it works. The picture is sharper the one time I used it.
    Interesting. Does it plug into the digital out slot and actually enable progressive scan (480P)? It might just plug into the standard definition output and provide sharper picture like S-Video just by having a better connection. Do you have a picture of it?

    All the combo cables I've found thus far explicitly state that the Gamecube portion is only a standard definition signal (albeit probably somewhat enhanced compared to the pack-in cables).

    The Gamecube's progressive output was in digital form on an entirely different jack, so inside the official component cable was an DAC chip that changed the digital video into Y/Pr/Pb. Third party Gamecube component cables just use the system's composite output in the Multi-out jack and route it through the Y portion of the cable. The signal is in no way enhanced. With official component cables, the signal looked gorgeous, twice as sharp with much more vibrant color, because it was a genuine component signal.

    The digital out, and therefore component out, was eventually discontinued on later Gamecubes. Only earlier systems have the proper output for progressive scan. The Wii has component out in its A/V connector and will play Gamecube games in true progressive scan, which is pretty awesome.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    CZroe wrote: »
    There are no third-party component cables for the Gamecube. NONE.

    Obviously there is because I have one.

    Nope. The digital out on a GCN (model 1) is digital. It requires a proprietary chip to convert to analog/component. This chip has not been reverse engineered. It wouldn't even make sense to do so when two thirds of the GCNs out there don't even have the digital connector.


    Except I have this one and it works. The picture is sharper the one time I used it.
    Interesting. Does it plug into the digital out slot and actually enable progressive scan (480P)? It might just plug into the standard definition output and provide sharper picture like S-Video just by having a better connection. Do you have a picture of it?

    All the combo cables I've found thus far explicitly state that the Gamecube portion is only a standard definition signal (albeit probably somewhat enhanced compared to the pack-in cables).


    I have no idea because I just remembered I'm totally lying. I have WII component cables, not GCN. They weren't very good so I returned them. The three headed beastie I have has a GCN head on it but I've never used it.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I have no idea because I just remembered I'm totally lying. I have WII component cables, not GCN. They weren't very good so I returned them. The three headed beastie I have has a GCN head on it but I've never used it.

    Ok, now that makes much more sense.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I have no idea because I just remembered I'm totally lying. I have WII component cables, not GCN. They weren't very good so I returned them. The three headed beastie I have has a GCN head on it but I've never used it.

    Ok, now that makes much more sense.

    Hmmm, less sense = more conversation.

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  • CZroeCZroe Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I wonder if it's worse than S-Video if it connects S-Video to Y? The improvement S-Video has over composite is specifically gained by keeping the chroma and luma signals separated. It would probably be black and white.

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  • pjarvipjarvi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This is probably what you have: MadCatz Universal Component Cable

    It's for the PS2, Xbox360, and Wii (not GCN).

    You can only use 1 connector at a time.

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