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Honda Element Lambo Doors

Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
does anyone know anything about lambo door conversion kits?

How realistic is this for a Honda Element?
How much should I be looking to spend?
I'm never done any serious car work before, should I get professional installation?
How much should I spend on that?

Most importantly

Can anyone dig up any pictures of a Honda Element with lambo doors on it? I would love to see this in action before I take any more steps.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It will look awful.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    How the fuck would you do that, it has suicide(ish) doors with no post between the front and rear doors. Also people who do this shit to Hondas are toolbags.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    You would have backwards facing butterfly doors (lambo doors are impossible to achieve on a normal car, they open directly vertically).

    Just please, don't put those on your car.

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  • AbsoluteHeroAbsoluteHero __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Don't even consider lambo doors if your car has an actual frame around the window.

    This means that when you roll down the window and open the door, you can still see the window frame. Unlike say, BMWs, where you roll down the window and then all you have is the door.

    If you do this mod on a car that has framed windows it will look unnatural, look like shit, and people will call you a ricer fag.

    Don't do it. Just buy a real lambo.

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  • KMFurDMKMFurDM Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    Buy a nicer car rather than spend money on silly mods.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    To actually answer the poor kids questions ( You savages :P )

    How realistic is this for a Honda Element?
    --Not very realistic, at all... You'd be one of like probably 20 people that have this kit.
    How much should I be looking to spend?
    --Over four thousand. A cookie cutter lambo door conversion for something like a mustang, that's tested and mass produced (the kit, not the car, but that is too, so yeah) costs about 2 grand installed, and this would have to be custom
    I'm never done any serious car work before, should I get professional installation?
    --Yes, otherwise you're going to cut your doorframe in half and die in a firey wreck...
    How much should I spend on that?
    --No more than 20% of the parts cost, or no more than $50 an hour imo (if you're in a really big city where everything is more expensive you can double that price though)
    Most importantly

    Can anyone dig up any pictures of a Honda Element with lambo doors on it?


    --No, we can't, because like the other six said, that's something a complete toolbox would do to their car. And we don't want to support Toolboxes Across America this year, their charity dinner last year was pretty shitty.




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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Gullwing or jackknife doors only work on small cars, due to the weight and engineering involved. In order to do either style on an Element, or any other large car, would require significantly re-engineering the roof, simply to support the doors. Not to mention any other work.

    Could you have it done? Sure, there's a company that will probably turn any car's doors into either gullwing or jackknife doors. But you'll pay through the nose for it, and you won't be able to do it yourself.

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  • inertinert Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    does anyone know anything about lambo door conversion kits?

    How realistic is this for a Honda Element? I would never consider it myself, but it's your ride man. I dont think it's very realistic, personally.
    How much should I be looking to spend? This is just the kit.
    I'm never done any serious car work before, should I get professional installation? Yes. You're talking about a lot of cutting, spot welds, possible electronics work, and a general mess that an amateur (no offense) really should never attempt.
    How much should I spend on that? Labor would be pretty excessive, easily over 1 or 2k.

    Most importantly

    Can anyone dig up any pictures of a Honda Element with lambo doors on it? I would love to see this in action before I take any more steps. Google has nothing, so I'm guessing this would probably be a first, or at least extremely rare.

    Also this:
    Gullwing or jackknife doors only work on small cars, due to the weight and engineering involved. In order to do either style on an Element, or any other large car, would require significantly re-engineering the roof, simply to support the doors. Not to mention any other work.

    Side note:

    Since your car is probably new, check your warranty, as I'm pretty sure major conversions like this can and will void most manufacturer warranties...

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    inert wrote: »

    Wait, you mean this shit actually exists? Like, people do this?

    Or is that just the hinge shown?

    In any case, scissor doors on an SUV, especially one that's ugly enough to begin with, would look terrible.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    You'd be looking at anywhere from 2k to 3k, depending on the Labor rates in your area.
    They don't look the best but if its something you have to have for whatever reason, go for it, its your car, personalize all you want.

    I've seen it on one of those boxy scions, xB? and it didnt look super sharp but didn't look that tacky...

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Okay.
    You guys have convinced me to stop thinking about doing this.


    Someday though. I will own a car with Lambo doors. it's hella sick.

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  • KMFurDMKMFurDM Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    If it's a Lamborghini. :)

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Man, don't listen to these nay-sayers. do a Lambo doors on your car. They look awesome. Just because people yell "ricer" doesn't mean that its true, it just means that people are jelious.

    May I ask where you were planning to look for a kit from? I would like to know as well.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Man, don't listen to these nay-sayers. do a Lambo doors on your car. They look awesome. Just because people yell "ricer" doesn't mean that its true, it just means that people are jelious.

    May I ask where you were planning to look for a kit from? I would like to know as well.


    LIAR!

    The only lambo doors I've seen that looked slick and weren't on a Lambo were on a Saleen Mustang down in Florida. But even then it's still a Mustang..... not a Lambo. It's like, who's car do you think the smoking hot chick at the posh nightclub is going to get into....The guy in the Ferrarri or the guy in the souped up integra?

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Man, don't listen to these nay-sayers. do a Lambo doors on your car. They look awesome. Just because people yell "ricer" doesn't mean that its true, it just means that people are jelious.

    May I ask where you were planning to look for a kit from? I would like to know as well.


    LIAR!

    The only lambo doors I've seen that looked slick and weren't on a Lambo were on a Saleen Mustang down in Florida. But even then it's still a Mustang..... not a Lambo. It's like, who's car do you think the smoking hot chick at the posh nightclub is going to get into....The guy in the Ferrarri or the guy in the souped up integra?
    hey hey, I like my integra quite a bit

    it gets good gas mileage

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This thread is about Lambo Doors on a Honda Element.

    Do not get Lambo doors on a Honda Element.

    It is a collosal waste of money and if you get sideswiped by a bunny you will die in a fiery blaze.

    But seriously, do NOT put Lambo doors on a Honda Element.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've seen lambo doors on a 3000GT/Stealth, looked great as those cars have pillar less doors.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The majority of people do not seem to understand or appreciate car modifying, so if thats what you are in to, you're going to have to accept that a lot of people will think you are wasting your money, or are a tool. Once you get past that you can do whatever you like. If YOU like the look, then you're golden. If you're going to constantly feel self-conscious worrying whether Joe Citizen thinks you're a tool, then modifying isnt for you.

    We dont have Honda Elements in Australia (as best i know, maybe under a different name) and i'm not going to google it, but scissor kits are available for a broad range of cars, and theres workshops that will customize if theres no exact kit. I see such kits often in modifier magazines, that might be a good place to start. I'd expect the full installation to run a few thousand but i dont know what costs are like in the US.

    You might be better served looking for a good Honda forum to ask these sorts of questions. Civics and Integras are very popular in the modifying scene so i'm sure there would be good forums that are more receptive to the idea.

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  • bagelpiratebagelpirate Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Man, don't listen to these nay-sayers. do a Lambo doors on your car. They look awesome. Just because people yell "ricer" doesn't mean that its true, it just means that people are jelious.

    May I ask where you were planning to look for a kit from? I would like to know as well.

    I wouldn't be jelious, or even jealous.
    I would be entertained though.

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  • AbsoluteHeroAbsoluteHero __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Cryogen wrote: »
    The majority of people do not seem to understand or appreciate car modifying

    Sadly, some of those people are the ones doing modifications themselves.

    Perfection in automobile design is achieved not when theres nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away.



    Or maybe you want to be the guy who glues army men all over his ferrari to depict historical WW2 battles or whatever. Go nuts.

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  • TheFishTheFish Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Cryogen wrote: »
    The majority of people do not seem to understand or appreciate car modifying

    Exactly. Instead of making their car go faster, stop quicker, or handle better these fools waste thousands on laughable cosmetic modifications that make people stare at them, and not in the positive way they think it does!

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  • KMFurDMKMFurDM Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    TheFish wrote: »
    Cryogen wrote: »
    The majority of people do not seem to understand or appreciate car modifying

    Exactly. Instead of making their car go faster, stop quicker, or handle better these fools waste thousands on laughable cosmetic modifications that make people stare at them, and not in the positive way they think it does!

    Ditto. Not to mention destroying your resale value, messing with the structural integrity of the car, and adding weight and complexity.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Man, don't listen to these nay-sayers. do a Lambo doors on your car. They look awesome. Just because people yell "ricer" doesn't mean that its true, it just means that people are jelious.

    Now, when they're laughing at you, that does mean it's true.
    May I ask where you were planning to look for a kit from? I would like to know as well.

    This question is answered in the thread prior to your post. Read threads before responding.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I had to google "Honda Element" to figure out why the reaction to this idea was quite so incredulous.

    We are talking about this thing, right?

    If so, I seriously doubt that a Lambo door conversion is even possible. The kits you can get are basically replacement door hinges with a gas lift system. Instead of just swinging the door out of the frame, they push the door out, then tilt it up. Looking at that car, the size of it's doors, and the fact that the windows are framed, I seriously doubt any kit you'd be able to obtain will have enough range of movement to swing the door out far enough that you'd actually be able to exit the car. In addition to that, the shape and the size of the door means there would almost certainly be clearance issues with the front wheelarch.

    Now, assuming that you could get hold of a mechanism that did have enough range of movement (which would be a custom job for sure), that mechanism would have to support a heavy door pushed quite a distance out of it's frame, and then you'd almost certainly start running into issues with the weight of the door trying to leverage the mechanism out of the doorframe (this is a pretty common issue even with cars that have relatively small doors with frameless windows. If you look at some of the videos on youtube, especially kit videos, it almost looks like you could rip the door out of the frame by grabbing the corner furthest from the hinge and pulling). With this car, the door is so tall and narrow it'll have to tip really far to clear the door, so you'd probably have to reinforce the door frame to take it.

    It would possibly make it easier if you could adapt the area around the doors and doorframe such that the car had frameless windows, but that's a huge job in itself and would probably seriously reduce the structural strength of the car, especially if it got hit from the side.

    Basically, if you could find someone willing to attempt this, it would be a huge and very expensive job.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Suicide doors are cooler than scissor doors anyway.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    zilo wrote: »
    Suicide doors are cooler than scissor doors anyway.

    There's no pillar between the front and rear doors on which to mount the hinges.

    It might be possible to pull off gullwing doors, if you could build a rollcage-like structure around the passenger compartment to support the necessary mechanism, but it wouldn't be pretty, and the doors are so tall you'd probably have difficulty in cramped parking spaces.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    LET IT BE KNOWN -

    Not even modern lambo's have these types of doors

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    LET IT BE KNOWN -

    Not even modern lambo's have these types of doors

    The Murcielago does. It's just the "cheap" Gallardo that has regular doors.
    "Cheap" = $200,000

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    japan wrote: »
    zilo wrote: »
    Suicide doors are cooler than scissor doors anyway.

    There's no pillar between the front and rear doors on which to mount the hinges.

    It might be possible to pull off gullwing doors, if you could build a rollcage-like structure around the passenger compartment to support the necessary mechanism, but it wouldn't be pretty, and the doors are so tall you'd probably have difficulty in cramped parking spaces.

    The Element already has suicide doors, sort of, in the fashion of the old Lincoln Continentals. I've never heard of a car whose front door opens from the back of the car.

    That would be weird.

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  • MidshipmanMidshipman Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    zilo wrote: »
    I've never heard of a car whose front door opens from the back of the car.

    That would be weird.

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  • TheFishTheFish Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Midshipman wrote: »
    zilo wrote: »
    I've never heard of a car whose front door opens from the back of the car.

    That would be weird.

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    Forget that. I want pics of the two T16s behind it.

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