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Lair Dev Slams SIXAXIS Controls in Warhawk
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"Warhawk's controls are... eurgh!," Eggebrecht told us with a shudder. He explained that while motion-sensing felt the perfect way to convey the feeling of controlling a dragon in Lair, he believed the kinetic technology in PS3's Sixaxis controllers shouldn't be used just because it's there. "I see motion-sensing as a complimentary, additional new step in terms of controls and where it fits you should use it and where it doesn't fit, don't force it. Please don't force it."
"Warhawk's controls are... eurgh!," Eggebrecht told us with a shudder. He explained that while motion-sensing felt the perfect way to convey the feeling of controlling a dragon in Lair, he believed the kinetic technology in PS3's Sixaxis controllers shouldn't be used just because it's there. "I see motion-sensing as a complimentary, additional new step in terms of controls and where it fits you should use it and where it doesn't fit, don't force it. Please don't force it."
Man, Rogue Leader was fantastic, it's a shame to see a dev I really loved loose credibility so fast.
Nothing beyond Rogue Leader exists.
I mean seriously, those on foot sections in Rebel Strike, the fuck!?
My co-op Rogue Leader disc had a single player mode?
To be fair, the ship stuff was still solid, and the walker stuff was OK, but Rogue Leader is still beautiful to this day and it was a launch title on the cube.
Julian really needs to stop talking to the press for a while. The damage is done man, just stop. This is verging on Dyack territory here. Nothing you can say or do will improve Lair at this point, and bashing on the competition (the vastly superior competition, I fucking love warhawk) is doing more harm than good.
The PS3's Sixaxis motion sensor is a complete and total failure. I suggest they create a PS3-mote controller that is dedicated for motion sensor play, because the Sixaxis is NOT conducive to motion sensor gameplay AT ALL!!!
The PS3's Sixaxis motion sensor is a complete and total failure. I suggest they create a PS3-mote controller that is dedicated for motion sensor play, because the Sixaxis is NOT conducive to motion sensor gameplay AT ALL!!!
How the hell is the PS3 controller bad for motion sensor play in and of itself? I've been using it in Warhawk, Lair, and in the Motorstorm demo, and I rather like it. Sure, I would not want to aim a gun with it like you might with the wiimote, but for driving things it feels rather natural and intuitive, so I like it.
Julian really needs to stop talking to the press for a while. The damage is done man, just stop. This is verging on Dyack territory here. Nothing you can say or do will improve Lair at this point, and bashing on the competition (the vastly superior competition, I fucking love warhawk) is doing more harm than good.
At least Julian has an excuse though, he's German. What the hell does Dyack have? Lack of proper schooling?
Julian really needs to stop talking to the press for a while. The damage is done man, just stop. This is verging on Dyack territory here. Nothing you can say or do will improve Lair at this point, and bashing on the competition (the vastly superior competition, I fucking love warhawk) is doing more harm than good.
At least Julian has an excuse though, he's German. What the hell does Dyack have? Lack of proper schooling?
The man's name is Dennis Dyack, he had 2 choices marvel super villian or video game maker.
He chose incorrectly.
Also I find it highly hilarious that I got into an argument about this on another board a few days ago and used Warhawk as an example of how to implement sixaxis control.
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Julian really needs to stop talking to the press for a while. The damage is done man, just stop. This is verging on Dyack territory here. Nothing you can say or do will improve Lair at this point, and bashing on the competition (the vastly superior competition, I fucking love warhawk) is doing more harm than good.
At least Julian has an excuse though, he's German. What the hell does Dyack have? Lack of proper schooling?
Lack of a sense of social awareness, maybe. The man still makes great game(s) and doesn't talk bad about other developers, but I don't think he's actually aware of the way that his statements tend to be received by the gaming public at large.
As for this, uh...
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Julian really needs to stop talking to the press for a while. The damage is done man, just stop. This is verging on Dyack territory here. Nothing you can say or do will improve Lair at this point, and bashing on the competition (the vastly superior competition, I fucking love warhawk) is doing more harm than good.
At least Julian has an excuse though, he's German. What the hell does Dyack have? Lack of proper schooling?
Lack of a sense of social awareness, maybe. The man still makes great game(s) and doesn't talk bad about other developers, but I don't think he's actually aware of the way that his statements tend to be received by the gaming public at large.
As for this, uh...
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
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Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
Didn't they say at the same press conference that they were in no way shape or form influenced by Nintendo's announcement of motion sensitive controls and that the "SIXAXIS" was all ways planned?
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
Didn't they say at the same press conference that they were in no way shape or form influenced by Nintendo's announcement of motion sensitive controls and that the "SIXAXIS" was all ways planned?
I think so. That press conference was epic. I'm sure someone mentioned in passing that they were programming Warhawk while it was being demo'd at the conference.
It was more a case of we'd just finished seeing the Nintendo one, then they turned around and said "No Gimmicks! $599 US Dollars" and it just sort of exploded. When you weren't refreshing to get past the poasts and poasts of Ridge Racer quotes.
Chuckle. The PS3 is the longest train wreck I've ever paused to look at.
Look, its not totally lost. As long as Sony are willing to stop being dicks and eat some humble pie, theres progress that can be made. The problem is that $600 is an outrageous price for a video game console.
I don't care how much tech you have to cut out, you keep the fucking price under $400 and even thats pushing it. If they'd not been so busy trying to push their own format again and just made a console for $300-400, full backwards compatibility via the EE chip and left off of BR in favour of something like HD-DVD then they'd have their own money printing machine.
Look at the momentum they built up at the end of the last generation of consoles. Hell, look at the momentum the PS2 still has. And they managed to somehow fuck up enough they lost most to almost all of it.
Back on topic. Its pretty fucking crass of Eggebrecht to try pulling this shit off.
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
Didn't they say at the same press conference that they were in no way shape or form influenced by Nintendo's announcement of motion sensitive controls and that the "SIXAXIS" was all ways planned?
I think so. That press conference was epic. I'm sure someone mentioned in passing that they were programming Warhawk while it was being demo'd at the conference.
What I remember was one of the guys who worked on Warhawk had said that they had been working on motion control for Warhawk merely two weeks prior to E3.
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Well dude is entitled to his opinion. Just because he says it doesn't mean he's speaking for the company or anything.
he is the President of Factor 5, not some Joe Shmoe programmer.
Making a stupid control scheme optional = Warhawk FTW.
Nothing beyond Rogue Leader exists.
I mean seriously, those on foot sections in Rebel Strike, the fuck!?
My co-op Rogue Leader disc had a single player mode?
To be fair, the ship stuff was still solid, and the walker stuff was OK, but Rogue Leader is still beautiful to this day and it was a launch title on the cube.
Giving the players the choice on what they want to use, crazy idea isn't it Factor 5?
I thought the graphics were awesome, but when I actually booted the game up, the honeymoon ended fast.
I quite agree. It wasn't that I didn't like the game, though. It was because I sucked at it and losing a LOT gets old really fast. :<
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How the hell is the PS3 controller bad for motion sensor play in and of itself? I've been using it in Warhawk, Lair, and in the Motorstorm demo, and I rather like it. Sure, I would not want to aim a gun with it like you might with the wiimote, but for driving things it feels rather natural and intuitive, so I like it.
Tell me that's her drunk again or something. I think I can cover Beat It better than that.
At least Julian has an excuse though, he's German. What the hell does Dyack have? Lack of proper schooling?
The man's name is Dennis Dyack, he had 2 choices marvel super villian or video game maker.
He chose incorrectly.
Also I find it highly hilarious that I got into an argument about this on another board a few days ago and used Warhawk as an example of how to implement sixaxis control.
Lack of a sense of social awareness, maybe. The man still makes great game(s) and doesn't talk bad about other developers, but I don't think he's actually aware of the way that his statements tend to be received by the gaming public at large.
As for this, uh...
The only comparison I could make would be if Sony mocked Nintendo for including motion controls. Did that ever happen?
Well the 2k6 press conference started with them saying they weren't about gimmicks then they revealed the sixaxis and using the PSP as a rear view mirror. Does that count?
Why yes it does, my friend. Yes it does.
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Hey, EA moves things and then shakes them, in that precise order.
Didn't they say at the same press conference that they were in no way shape or form influenced by Nintendo's announcement of motion sensitive controls and that the "SIXAXIS" was all ways planned?
I think so. That press conference was epic. I'm sure someone mentioned in passing that they were programming Warhawk while it was being demo'd at the conference.
It was more a case of we'd just finished seeing the Nintendo one, then they turned around and said "No Gimmicks! $599 US Dollars" and it just sort of exploded. When you weren't refreshing to get past the poasts and poasts of Ridge Racer quotes.
Look, its not totally lost. As long as Sony are willing to stop being dicks and eat some humble pie, theres progress that can be made. The problem is that $600 is an outrageous price for a video game console.
I don't care how much tech you have to cut out, you keep the fucking price under $400 and even thats pushing it. If they'd not been so busy trying to push their own format again and just made a console for $300-400, full backwards compatibility via the EE chip and left off of BR in favour of something like HD-DVD then they'd have their own money printing machine.
Look at the momentum they built up at the end of the last generation of consoles. Hell, look at the momentum the PS2 still has. And they managed to somehow fuck up enough they lost most to almost all of it.
Back on topic. Its pretty fucking crass of Eggebrecht to try pulling this shit off.
What I remember was one of the guys who worked on Warhawk had said that they had been working on motion control for Warhawk merely two weeks prior to E3.
I haven't played Warhawk or Lair yet, but I do hear that Warhawk has some pretty capable motion control. I can't wait to play Warhawk.
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