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Orange Box - selling me stuff i already own

ZensationZensation Registered User new member
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
So like anyone whos played a fps, im excited about the tf2, portal, and episode 2. my problem is with the way that everything is packaged together. I feel like i just dropped $50 on hl2, counterstrike, and episode 1. Why should i pay another $50 for half the stuff i already have? Would it really be too much to make a $30 box with just the new stuff. I mean i get the desire for companies to make money. I figure that i will just wait this one out until the inevitable separation and play some 360 or wii for a while. On a side note i work in music/movie retail and one of things that kill me is the constant re-release of bonus/Dir. cut/re-mix/anniversary albums or dvds. Im never really happy to buy the same thing more than once. That might be the root of my hate.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yeah I totally know what you mean.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    You can buy them seperatley on Steam

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  • LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    Nice big font.

    Portal, Episode 2 and TF2 would all be $80 seperately at the MSRP that is listed on steampowered.com. So, for $50, you're getting those three and gift passes for other people for the older games.

    Quit bitching.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    yeah man but you can gift your orange box things you already own to a friend, do you have no friends?

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    TF2 is retail priced for $29.95 standalone.
    HL:EP2 is retail priced for $29.95 standalone.
    Portal is retail priced for $19.95 standalone.

    Pretend HL2 and HL2:EP1 aren't in the package at all, then enjoy your $79.85 of software for $44.95.

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  • InzignaInzigna Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I think its a bargain, no matter how I look at it.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    it seems al ittle silly that the $70 I paid for HL2 and Ep1 doesn't net me any discount or anything, but I assuage these feelings by telling myself that $50 is a great price for TF2 + Portal + Ep2 in any case.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't wait for The Orange Box. For me, it's selling me five games I haven't played yet. Woo for bargains.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't wait for The Orange Box. For me, it's selling me five games I haven't played yet. Woo for bargains.
    High Five.

    Late adopters get the best deals.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm not buying any Half-Life Episode until they finish the damn thing because those assholes don't understand the definition of "Episodic"

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't wait for The Orange Box. For me, it's selling me five games I haven't played yet. Woo for bargains.

    Yeah, the only question for me is do I pick it up for the PC or 360.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    it seems al ittle silly that the $70 I paid for HL2 and Ep1 doesn't net me any discount or anything, but I assuage these feelings by telling myself that $50 is a great price for TF2 + Portal + Ep2 in any case.

    Dude. The fact that it's 50 bucks is a discount in itself, considering how much all three by themselves cost.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    TF2 is retail priced for $29.95 standalone.
    HL:EP2 is retail priced for $29.95 standalone.
    Portal is retail priced for $19.95 standalone.

    Pretend HL2 and HL2:EP1 aren't in the package at all, then enjoy your $79.85 of software for $44.95.

    Stop whining and read this post over and over until you get it in your head that it's cheaper this way anyway.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm just going to wait for a price drop on buying HL2:II alone, as that's the only one of the pack that I don't already have or want.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Darlan. You're not a man if you don't want TF2 and/or Portal. I'm sorry.

    Hand over your man license.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    We've been through this. Is $50 a fair price for Ep2 + TF2 + Portal? Yes? Then quit your bitching.
    apotheos wrote: »
    I'm not buying any Half-Life Episode until they finish the damn thing because those assholes don't understand the definition of "Episodic"

    Compared to a normal Valve development cycle, this is episodic.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    Darlan. You're not a man if you don't want TF2 and/or Portal. I'm sorry.

    Hand over your man license.
    To me, Portal looks like a little physics demonstration that would be fun for maybe two hours, and online-MP-only FPSes never hold my attention past the first week. Just not my thing.

    My license was null when I bought Super Princess Peach the other day anyways.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    I'm not buying any Half-Life Episode until they finish the damn thing because those assholes don't understand the definition of "Episodic"

    It is episodic in the same way that The Godfather trilogy was episodic

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I can't wait for The Orange Box. For me, it's selling me five games I haven't played yet. Woo for bargains.


    I'm in the same boat. 8-)

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wait a second. HL2: Episode 2 has been confirmed for a $30 standalone download? 50% more expensive than Episode 1? Is it supposed to be noticeably longer and cooler than Episode 1? Because all things considered, I don't really want to buy the whole package - I didn't find the free game that inspired Portal to be especially fun & I'm not a fan of online FPS. At $30, it's going to be a lot harder to justify with all the other games vying for my money this holiday season.

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  • The SpacemonkeyThe Spacemonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Episode 2 is meant to be far longer and much cooler.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wait a second. HL2: Episode 2 has been confirmed for a $30 standalone download? 50% more expensive than Episode 1? Is it supposed to be noticeably longer and cooler than Episode 1? Because all things considered, I don't really want to buy the whole package - I didn't find the free game that inspired Portal to be especially fun & I'm not a fan of online FPS. At $30, it's going to be a lot harder to justify with all the other games vying for my money this holiday season.
    Urahonkey's collecting our man licenses. He's the fellow in the corner with the scissors and the suggestively raised eyebrows.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Episode 2 does your dishes while you sleep.

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  • Paradox ControlParadox Control Master MC Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I love these threads "Man Valve is trying to sell me games a great price! FUCK THEM!"

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  • Sci-Fi WasabiSci-Fi Wasabi Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This is definitely going to be an Xbox360 purchase for me. Live play should hold me over until they bring the price down on Episode 2.

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  • telcustelcus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm fairly certain that Valve will drop in the black box as a steam only offering after the games are officially released. Guess we'll find out next month!

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I love these threads "Man Valve is trying to sell me games a great price! FUCK THEM!"

    Thats not the point. Yeah its a great bargain for those that never bought Half-Life 2 or Episode 1, but for those that had, we we're going to have the option of the cheaper Black Box that only contained the new content. Instead they're making us pay more than they originally announced, and all we get for it, is stuff we already have. I don't think the complaining would be as bad anyways if they had never announced the Black Box in the first place.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I love these threads "Man Valve is trying to sell me games a great price! FUCK THEM!"

    Exactly.

    Look on the bright side, they're not selling each game for $60 on blue ray discs.

    Nor are they charging $2 for horse armor. In case Gordon gets a horse or something.

    Yeah, Valve has always given a shitload of amazing content. And Steam was made for me, as there's a 50% chance that any game I buy I will end up losing the disc or license key.

    Also Valve helped me walk again, and helped my wife and I conceive a child.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The whole package is cheaper than buying them individually, but individually they're really expensive. $30 for TF2? DoD:S and CS:S, both multiplayer only games, were only $20, and TF2 only has 6 maps. Episode 2 costs $10 more than Episode 1, and it's supposed to be longer but you never know.

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  • wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    eelektrik wrote: »
    I love these threads "Man Valve is trying to sell me games a great price! FUCK THEM!"

    Thats not the point. Yeah its a great bargain for those that never bought Half-Life 2 or Episode 1, but for those that had, we we're going to have the option of the cheaper Black Box that only contained the new content. Instead they're making us pay more than they originally announced, and all we get for it, is stuff we already have. I don't think the complaining would be as bad anyways if they had never announced the Black Box in the first place.

    It's funny because Valve gave me a reason not to buy Ep2. Now I have more money to spend on the bazillion other games coming out this holiday. I've already given them $70 for Half-Life 2 and Ep1. I'm not made of money, and have no need to buy these games over again.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm lucky. I have none of these games. No HL, No HL EP1, No CS, nothing...

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  • telcustelcus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm lucky. I have none of these games. No HL, No HL EP1, No CS, nothing...

    Is this the only context where not playing half life 2 is counted as lucky?

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  • wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I'm lucky. I have none of these games. No HL, No HL EP1, No CS, nothing...

    I never thought I'd say this, but yes you are lucky you never bought HL2 and ep1.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    WHAT PART OF $30 + $30 + $20 = $80, 80 > 50 DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND!?
    "but it comes with HL2 and ep 1 ahh bloo bloo"

    SO FUCKING WHAT!? THEY'RE PRACTICALLY GIFTS AT THIS PRICE POINT TO GIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE. GOOD GOD.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Episode 2 is supposed to be like 8-10 hours right? There are some full price console shooters that last that long. Now if you dislike multi-player FPS, then thats unfortunate, but so is stubbing your toe on the way to buying it, its hardly Valves fault. They can charge whatever the hell they want, if you don't like it, too bad. Personally, I think its awesome and extremely good value. I enjoy Portal, and TF2 is beyond cool.

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  • telcustelcus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The point for me at the moment is that I don't really feel like beta testing TF2 (despite the amount of fun people seem to be having with it) and so I don't want to preorder.

    This is in the hope that when the games are actually released, steam will put up the black box and that the black box will be cheaper then the currently discounted orange box.

    There is no factual basis that this will be the case, but I'm willing to wait to find out.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    telcus wrote: »
    I'm lucky. I have none of these games. No HL, No HL EP1, No CS, nothing...

    Is this the only context where not playing half life 2 is counted as lucky?

    Well, I didn't really have a good computer at that time. Unless somehow HL2 would have run real nice on a Radeon 9200 AGP POS GPU. =3

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  • wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    WHAT PART OF $30 + $30 + $20 = $80, 80 > 50 DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND!?
    "but it comes with HL2 and ep 1 ahh bloo bloo"

    SO FUCKING WHAT!? THEY'RE PRACTICALLY GIFTS AT THIS PRICE POINT TO GIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE. GOOD GOD.

    Now tell us how you really feel.

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    WHAT PART OF $30 + $30 + $20 = $80, 80 > 50 DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND!?
    "but it comes with HL2 and ep 1 ahh bloo bloo"

    SO FUCKING WHAT!? THEY'RE PRACTICALLY GIFTS AT THIS PRICE POINT TO GIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE. GOOD GOD.

    What part of the originally announced Black Box price of $40<$50 do you not get? What part of, they're forcing us to spend another $10 for shit we don't need when we, the early adopters, have already spent $70 do you not get? What part of gifting is redundant since the person you gift them to will then have to have extra copies of them when they too then go buy The Orange Box because its the only cost efficient package out there do you not get?

    We already get that its a 'good deal', but they're milking everyone for an extra $10 knowing people will pay it compared to the overpriced standalone prices(Which, also all seem about $10 too high each). Anyone that doesn't see this even the slight bit as shitting in the face of loyal fans, is a moron.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It sucks a tiny bit that there's no cheaper black box. But realistically, it would have been $40 most likely. The individual prices for each component are reasonable, so it's pretty much a steal.

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