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My IP address has been logged?

GuffreyGuffrey Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I was looking at an engagement ring my girlfriend is interested in at www.carat.cc, and I right clicked on one of them to open in a new tab. I got an error box that popped up and said "This site is copyright protected. Your IP address has been logged". I've never had that happen before, whats that about?

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  • CruixCruix Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Did you by any chance try to right click on the site on accident? I've been on websites where they've "disabled" right-click by having a message pop-up whenever you try to right click, preventing you from copying images from their website.

    As far as the contents of the message, I've never seen that particular one. I wouldn't guess it's anything important, but it's curious.

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  • GuffreyGuffrey Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I didnt try to right click again, but I tried to use my middle mouse button to close the tab and got the same message. I cant imagine its anything serious, just wanted to check though.

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  • CruixCruix Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I just went to the website and to the shop and tried right-clicking now, actually, that's when I got the error message. My guess is that it's just their way of keeping you from saving images of the rings/copying them.

    I don't know why it matters to them, but it seems that's what it is.

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  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Cruix wrote: »
    I just went to the website and to the shop and tried right-clicking now, actually, that's when I got the error message. My guess is that it's just their way of keeping you from saving images of the rings/copying them.

    I don't know why it matters to them, but it seems that's what it is.

    A lot of site makers/coders simply implement this into their designs.

    If you're making something commercial you put a lot of work into it and don't want people ripping off your work, this includes images. It's really just another way to try and protect their investment with little impact or cost to them.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited October 2007
    That's a horribly retarded and silly javascript that tries to scare you in case you right click -> save some image or something.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    havent gotten that msg upon a rt click but have gotten it upon just viewing a page

    Fyi: when requesting a webpage, the webserver receives the request which includes source ip. Even if they dont give a message it's easy for (and likely that) the requests to be logged.
    as far as why they do it, its probably to intimidate those who might want to copy their designs.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I wouldn't worry about it. It is a bit of jscript that blocks right clicks. It is run client side, and if there was no activity in the browser after, it didn't send anything. Chances are, like most servers, they logged your ip for stats anyway.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, it's a javascript to "disable" right click. The contents can be anything. By visiting a website, your IP is logged by the server -- it's how they know you visited the website. They're more or less trying to discourage you from distributing their images.

    It is, of course, incredibly dumb. It's trivial to simply disable javascript, AND in order for an image to be viewed (unless it's in flash), it needs to be downloaded to your computer. All you'd have to do is dig around in your cache if you wanted to get the image. Or, even easier, just look at their source code and see what the link is to their picture. But no, the alert is just an automated javascript. You didn't trigger anything bad.

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Echo wrote: »
    That's a horribly retarded and silly javascript that tries to scare you in case you right click -> save some image or something.

    Seconded. Some dumb manager was able to convince/bully an engineer into implementing this "protection". Don't worry about it.

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  • MartyMarty Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    HAHA print screen owns them.

    Also, I just went to the site and I was able to right click just fine. FF + Noscript + carat.cc allowed.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Cruix wrote: »
    Did you by any chance try to right click on the site on accident? I've been on websites where they've "disabled" right-click by having a message pop-up whenever you try to right click, preventing you from copying images from their website.

    As far as the contents of the message, I've never seen that particular one. I wouldn't guess it's anything important, but it's curious.

    You should be able to middle-click a link to open a new tab.

    Trying to prevent a user from right-clicking in a page is a futile exercise. With Firefox, if they want the source they can get it from the Page Source option from the View menu.. If they want images they can get it from the browser's cache or the Media tab of the Page Info window. You can also set an option to prevent scripts from detecting when you right-click.

    If someone really wanted something from a site they could just run a packet sniffer.

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  • CruixCruix Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, if I ever really need to right-click, it's very easy to just hit the spacebar (to hit the "ok" message) and then rightclick as soon as it disappears, thus giving you the right-click menu.

    It really is the silliest bit of script I've ever encountered, and I don't understand how it makes anyone feel safe. The people who wouldn't be able to get past this are the same people who wouldn't know what to do with the code, anyway.

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  • contrabandcontraband Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Don't... don't websites automatically log your IP somewhere just for visiting it anyway..?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    contraband wrote: »
    Don't... don't websites automatically log your IP somewhere just for visiting it anyway..?

    They can, but under most circumstances they don't have to. We actually had a pretty big court ruling about a month or two ago regarding this issue.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I hate these mostly because they break my mouse gestures. When it happens just disable javascript for that site.

    What's weird is that I don't have this problem browsing that site. Where did you click?

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  • SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I can't possibly understand why anyone would want right-click protection on their site. The last time I saw it actually used was like on some geocities dragon ball z site back in the 15th century so the guy could show off that he knew insanely advanced coding technique

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    contraband wrote: »
    Don't... don't websites automatically log your IP somewhere just for visiting it anyway..?

    They can, but under most circumstances they don't have to. We actually had a pretty big court ruling about a month or two ago regarding this issue.

    But if it's either a) a site that's trying to do some kind of business with you (selling you something, banking, etc.) or b) a forum, odds are they do, just because it's very useful to do so.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Well it won't let you on without Javascript.

    Therefore boycott them, bunch of idiots. Like refusing to let in people who turn up to the shop in jeans.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    corcorigan wrote: »
    Well it won't let you on without Javascript.

    Therefore boycott them, bunch of idiots. Like refusing to let in people who turn up to the shop in jeans.
    Don't think of it as a boycott, think of it as "if they're this technically inept and illiterate while coding their website, how well are they going to handle my credit card information".

    This is also the reason why I never buy anything from a site that requires Internet Explorer.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    They apparently never heard of file -> save as.

    I have a client who thought that the right-click thing actually did something. Luckily I beat it out of him.

    Uhh, as far as your IP, worthless.

    This guy:

    1) Uses lame ass javascript that does nothing

    2) Thinks IP addresses are of any value in the court of law without accompanying evidence that he could not possibly collect without a subpoena + legal fees.

    Those are two characteristics of someone you do NOT want to give your credit card info to. Take it from me, I've worked for enough of these crazies.

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  • GuffreyGuffrey Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Wow, thanks for all the responses. I've had messages pop up on different websites before when I tried to right click, but they were never worded so...seriously? Anyways, after the initial "what the hell?" shock, it didn't really worry me, I was honestly just curious why. So thanks again everyone, this can be locked.

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  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Two little things. First, I would like it (as a web developer) if you emailed this site and told them their bullshit cost them your business.

    Second,
    Jasconius wrote: »
    2) Thinks IP addresses are of any value in the court of law without accompanying evidence that he could not possibly collect without a subpoena + legal fees.
    If the RIAA win earlier this week becomes precedent, then you are legally responsible for any connections made from your IP. It would behoove the internet at large to reflect on that.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Two little things. First, I would like it (as a web developer) if you emailed this site and told them their bullshit cost them your business.

    Second,
    Jasconius wrote: »
    2) Thinks IP addresses are of any value in the court of law without accompanying evidence that he could not possibly collect without a subpoena + legal fees.
    If the RIAA win earlier this week becomes precedent, then you are legally responsible for any connections made from your IP. It would behoove the internet at large to reflect on that.

    No, impossible, because there are easy ways to falsify your IP address and make it look like someone elses. The reason that the RIAA didn't have a problem is because they not only had proof from the womans ISP that it was indeed her, but her personal e-mail address also matches her Kazaa username. The IP address was a minor part of that case.

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