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Video games reduce spatial perception gender gap; might reduce math/science gap
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From Cognitive Daily:
Reaction 2: Take that, gender essentialists!
Seriously, though... something as simple as playing an FPS for 10 hours has a profound effect on one of the most famous gaps in cognitive ability between men and women. Nurture: 1, Nature: 0.
Reaction 1: See, video games are good for you!Cognitive Daily wrote:We've reported here that the video game Medal of Honor can increase performance on several different vision tasks. As we noted in our series two weeks ago, spatial visual ability seems to account for much of the apparent difference between males and females' scores in high-stakes math and science tests. That's why this new study's results are quite important. From the Yahoo writeup of the study:Yahoo wrote:There was little change among those who played Ballance [a less visually demanding game], but the Medal of Honor players showed marked improvement from testing before and after playing the game. On average, female participants improved more than their male counterparts, significantly narrowing the gender gap. Perhaps more interesting is the fact that even five months down the road, the Medal of Honor players retained much of the enhanced spatial skills they had developed.
Reaction 2: Take that, gender essentialists!
Seriously, though... something as simple as playing an FPS for 10 hours has a profound effect on one of the most famous gaps in cognitive ability between men and women. Nurture: 1, Nature: 0.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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And wow, this is amazing. Thank you, Feral. This is awesome, and has actually brightened my day. I don't know why, though. It doesn't really change what I thought.
Affirmation, however, is a good thing.
See my game reviews at: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=strangegamer
just want to make sure I understand the terminology.
Because they're biologically predisposed to it.
The contrary position is that, yes, they might be biologically predisposed, but the effect of this predisposition is so weak that it can be overshadowed by 10 hours of video games.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
very cool.
and then as far as why boys appear to be predisposed to videogames, that's social conditioning. right?
I think I'm learning from these forums... yay.
I know this stuff is probably considered common sense, and I "know" it now, but every instance where I can beat back what I've been taught or what I at a points thought was obvious is good.
This is sort of where I sit. Yeah, there's probably a difference, but it's so small compared to other factors that we shouldn't really give a shit.
Yeah.
I'm curious if there would be a difference in effect between stereotypically girlie 3D games and stereotypically masculine 3D games. Like, if they used Medal of Honor for one experimental group and Katamari Damacy for the other experimental group.
Besides, it would have made for better copy. They should print a graph showing the size of the experimental effect with the caption, "We are moved to tears by the size of this thing!"
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It looks like the shoot-em-up part of the experiment only used twenty people - six males, fourteen females. I'd kinda like to see it repeated with a bigger group.
I wonder what a game like Portal would do for people.
Not so much conditioning of boys towards stuff they're 'supposed' to be good at as conditioning of girls away from it. And boys are conditioned away from things girls are 'supposed' to be good at, in turn.
Increase susceptibility to the effects of LSD.
I second that. Portal looks like it's all about judging distances and momentum before you even start moving as you plot your course.
Ionizing radiation. It only works if you play them on CRT TVs.
edit: worst top of the page ever.
When do I get my superpowers?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Sorry, your like that guy from the X-men cartoon with the furry clawed hands. Just enough "powers" to look like a freak, but without the whole "doing anything useful" part.
No way, I know how you get furry hands, and it's not from radiation.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
this seems to be similar
I heard that was actually related to FPS games. I remember that article, though -- I think we had a thread on it.
Laparoscopic surgery, specifically, which involves the use of a camera and special instruments.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
But hey, I'm still getting the hang of things. I made some bitchin' chili today, for instance. And I have to admit most of the reason I never learned shit until now was my own apathy.
And this is chat thread material at this point. So, getting back to the topic: anyone here think any of this type of "video games might be good for you" study will change the public perception of the medium anytime soon? Me neither.
I sort of feel sympathy for those threads, since I had little cooking knowledge outside of how to make pancakes, which at least were from scratch, when I left home.
Please don't hurt me.
Frankly I don't think this study will change the public perception of gender-essentialism anytime soon.