The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
Andy Rooney of 60 Minutes fame gave a quick thought to this years back when he compared the contents of a soup can and a cereal box to the images of food on the packaging. He complained the soup he was sold looks nothing like the soup on the label. Then the codger took a nap.
I think Andy Rooney's half-nuts and I thought he was just having an old fogey rant at the time. But last night I watched a commercial for Sonic, a fast food chain popular in the southeast. They were advertising a breakfast burrito that had 'smoky cheddar' and 'crisp bacon' and 'juicy slices of steak' - enough tasty adjectives to get any lard-filled American salivating. But come one, we all know this is fast food and the only way that cheddar is going to get smoky is if the machine that processes the cheese catches on fire. It hit me that Andy Rooney was right and nothing is as good as advertised. It doesn't stop at food - we have medicines advertised on TV that aren't as effective as Big Pharma says they are, we have Ford trucks chained to a 747 and actually stopping a jet liner on the runway, we have ads claiming that drinking milk will help us burn fat.
As consumers, we all know this is bullshit and the companies are using tricks to get us to buy more products. But I'm wondering which statement is true: 'Products are usually not as good as advertised' or 'Products are never as good as advertised.'
Is there anything in the store that received an accurate representation in its commercial?
I'm often pleasantly surprised by products-- to the point of having to phone someone and inform them-- but those products are uh, not the kind you regularly see advertised. The brand of pickles I like best is from dollar stores (Eden Garden), the hair-straightener I use cost $15 retail but promised the world on the box (it delivered the world), and the greatest revolution in canned fishery:
the tin of filleted sardine with lemon and red pepper, with an actual lemon slice and red pepper inside of the tin,
did indeed deliver on the $0.69 tin's promise of including "real lemon" and "real chili peppers" along with "real fillet of sardine."
Just the same, I've gotten my money's worth from more costly purchases (more expensive coats being warmer and more durable despite feeling lighter), I just don't have as much anecdotal evidence. The middle-class targeted products, though? Especially upper-middle?
The real problem stems from the fact that advertisers can get away with being so lax in usage.
I'll take a couple examples from where I work, Starbucks.
Reduced Fat Cinnamon Swirl Coffee Cake. Reduced Fat you say? That can't be too bad. No you bleeding moron. It says reduced, not low. Reduced from what? From the old recipe of course. You knock .1 gram of fat off something and you get to call it reduced fat. The thing is still awful for you.
No Sugar Added Carrot Mini-loaf. People always ask for the sugar free mini loaf. It's not sugar free. It has plenty of sugar from it's ingredients. We just didn't add any straight sugar to it on top of the normal ingredients.
I'm honestly not sure why people are so hard on McDonald's, when Starbucks is so much worse in every way.
Once when I was a kid, my mom bought some cereal. On the front of the box was a picture of a bowl of the cereal with fruit in it. (Blueberries or raspberries or something) I was so disappointed when we opened the box and there was no fruit inside.
Food is almost never as good as advertised. The Wendy's Bacon Mushroom Melt is the only exception I've ever encountered. I've come across things that have been better than advertised (my DS Lite is the first thing that comes to mind).
Saying stuff is 'never' as as good as advertised is pretty ridiculous. 'Never' is an incredibly strong word.
Food at places like Perkins is usually just as tasty, cheap and massive as it looks on the menu or in the commercials. I've never been disappointed at one
Food at places like Perkins is usually just as tasty, cheap and massive as it looks on the menu or in the commercials. I've never been disappointed at one
Man, we had a Perkins in my hometown but it closed years ago. I loved that place.
Food at places like Perkins is usually just as tasty, cheap and massive as it looks on the menu or in the commercials. I've never been disappointed at one
Man, we had a Perkins in my hometown but it closed years ago. I loved that place.
God I wish I could go and eat at Perkins today! Curse you England for your absence of that particular sort of dining establishment!
I mean sure I lose 5 years every time I eat one, but they're so good!
Besides, all those years that get shaved off of your life are at the end, when you're sitting in a diaper at a retirement home.
Not all advertisements are hyperbollic. Sure you have some of those stupid truck commericals or food crafted from clay to look delicious, but what about the various 'this is our product' commercials that don't really tell you much at all.
moniker on
0
amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
edited October 2007
The ford commercial where it stops the 747 pisses me off so much, because they say "actual demonstration" at the bottom, like it's really happening. While a jumbo jet or cargo plane would never try to take off while carrying a truck like that, it could very easily do it. The towing capacity for that truck is at max around 20,000 pounds.... At least the dodge truck commericals are funny. The new one where the guy in WoW summons the Dodge pickup and takes out the dragon is great.
Also, I tried the wendy's baconator... not as good as advertised.
For the record OP, that Sonic breakfast burrito ain't bad. The slices of steak are in fact thin strips of something beeflike, the bacon is small bits o bacon, and the smokey chedder is a smokey cheddarlike sauce, but its better than some things I've eaten.
Now, I've had since 2 weeks after it was first available, so it is not like the ads influenced my decision, but they deliver what they promise. Great customer service, very rarely down, quite fast, tech support that tend to not waste your time, and I've never heard a word about bandwidth limits. Very happy. The only complaints I've heard from people in the area is that a) The pig fucker they contracted out the install to sucked for some reason(not mine, mine was great, I knew the guy, and smoked him out. it was kinda cool) or b) it is not available where the person lived.
Really pretty great, and the ads are accurate. If anything they undersell it. Hell, they have told both the RIAA and Homeland Security to get fucked, in the past. I love the shit out of them for that.
and, I guess, Snakes on a Plane. Would be truth in advertising. Right?
The ford commercial where it stops the 747 pisses me off so much, because they say "actual demonstration" at the bottom, like it's really happening. While a jumbo jet or cargo plane would never try to take off while carrying a truck like that, it could very easily do it. The towing capacity for that truck is at max around 20,000 pounds.
Your not watching the comercial right.
The cargo plane lands and the truck comes out of the back. Instead of letting the plane stop itself they let the brakes on the truck stop the plane.
The plane isn't taking off, its landing and trying to stop.
But the best thing about the ford commercials is that I get to hear Mike Rowe's all too sexy voice. I'm a straight guy and that voice gets me going.
In general, things that have to be advertised usually suck. Most restaurants that are really amazing don't need to advertise, good word of mouth and reviews will be enough to keep up business. Advertising is generally a package of lies.
On the other hand, personal advertising for a product is very trustworthy to me. Someone liked driving this car, eating this sandwich, whatever.
Once when I was a kid, my mom bought some cereal. On the front of the box was a picture of a bowl of the cereal with fruit in it. (Blueberries or raspberries or something) I was so disappointed when we opened the box and there was no fruit inside.
There probably wasn't a bowl either. Boycott General Mills!
Posts
B.net: Kusanku
the tin of filleted sardine with lemon and red pepper, with an actual lemon slice and red pepper inside of the tin,
did indeed deliver on the $0.69 tin's promise of including "real lemon" and "real chili peppers" along with "real fillet of sardine."
Just the same, I've gotten my money's worth from more costly purchases (more expensive coats being warmer and more durable despite feeling lighter), I just don't have as much anecdotal evidence. The middle-class targeted products, though? Especially upper-middle?
Shit.
I'll take a couple examples from where I work, Starbucks.
Reduced Fat Cinnamon Swirl Coffee Cake. Reduced Fat you say? That can't be too bad. No you bleeding moron. It says reduced, not low. Reduced from what? From the old recipe of course. You knock .1 gram of fat off something and you get to call it reduced fat. The thing is still awful for you.
No Sugar Added Carrot Mini-loaf. People always ask for the sugar free mini loaf. It's not sugar free. It has plenty of sugar from it's ingredients. We just didn't add any straight sugar to it on top of the normal ingredients.
I'm honestly not sure why people are so hard on McDonald's, when Starbucks is so much worse in every way.
those muffins, with a about stick of butter in each one, are so fucking good
B.net: Kusanku
Saying stuff is 'never' as as good as advertised is pretty ridiculous. 'Never' is an incredibly strong word.
A mass of meat and cheese that I probably shouldn't have eaten.
Your heart is going to stop by the time you are 30, just sayin'.
Man, we had a Perkins in my hometown but it closed years ago. I loved that place.
God I wish I could go and eat at Perkins today! Curse you England for your absence of that particular sort of dining establishment!
I only ever eat one of them when I travel, so about 5 times a year.
B.net: Kusanku
I mean sure I lose 5 years every time I eat one, but they're so good!
Oh, i thought this was like, a weekly or even daily habit. I was all: D:D:D:
MY GOD! A "QUAD" STACKER?? Is that four beef patties smothered in a sauce and onions?
So if a product comes as advertised, that's considered poor marketing?
Is this great marketing?
Besides, all those years that get shaved off of your life are at the end, when you're sitting in a diaper at a retirement home.
Not all advertisements are hyperbollic. Sure you have some of those stupid truck commericals or food crafted from clay to look delicious, but what about the various 'this is our product' commercials that don't really tell you much at all.
Also, I tried the wendy's baconator... not as good as advertised.
Great marketing, yes. Unfortunately, he failed to deliver.
So... tasty! And they take them away so you crave them more.
Even the McRib bun is delicious!
Again, more Daikatana ads. Advanced sidekick AI? It's false advertising! All marketing is false advertising!
Hahaha, yes. Or any movie advertising involving the phrase "verb/adjective a world"
Sauce, cheese, and bacon.
Bacon, too?! Ho...How did you survive eating all that?
;-)
Now, I've had since 2 weeks after it was first available, so it is not like the ads influenced my decision, but they deliver what they promise. Great customer service, very rarely down, quite fast, tech support that tend to not waste your time, and I've never heard a word about bandwidth limits. Very happy. The only complaints I've heard from people in the area is that a) The pig fucker they contracted out the install to sucked for some reason(not mine, mine was great, I knew the guy, and smoked him out. it was kinda cool) or b) it is not available where the person lived.
Really pretty great, and the ads are accurate. If anything they undersell it. Hell, they have told both the RIAA and Homeland Security to get fucked, in the past. I love the shit out of them for that.
and, I guess, Snakes on a Plane. Would be truth in advertising. Right?
Your not watching the comercial right.
The cargo plane lands and the truck comes out of the back. Instead of letting the plane stop itself they let the brakes on the truck stop the plane.
The plane isn't taking off, its landing and trying to stop.
But the best thing about the ford commercials is that I get to hear Mike Rowe's all too sexy voice. I'm a straight guy and that voice gets me going.
On the other hand, personal advertising for a product is very trustworthy to me. Someone liked driving this car, eating this sandwich, whatever.
well, yeah. The commercials are just a bunch of the cut scenes. Not really much game play.
Of course, they can't really show killing a hooker with a baseball bat to get your money back, can they?
But that's not the fun part, the fun part is starting up a police-chase just to see how long you can run.
The commercials featured unhappy midgets. I'd say that they pretty much captured the spirit of the actual product.
There probably wasn't a bowl either. Boycott General Mills!
IOS Game Center ID: Isotope-X
compensation y'all
As far as food, the McGriddle is SO much better than it looks on the tv.