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I Not Learn So Goodly

Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Social Entropy++
So check this shit. I live in New Mexico, second worst education in the country (yeah fuck you Mississippi), and I thought this may amuse some of you. Yeah, public schooling.

Earlier today, Spanish 3 and 4 were cancelled, as well as a few math, science and other such classes, leading to a total of 450 students somehow being displaced out of a class. The Spanish students were encouraged to take the same level of Spanish, except the "For Native Speakers" version. This is in New Mexico. The difference between the Native Spanish Speakers and the non-NSS is that the NSS don't speak English.

Our school has recently been supporting something called E2020. This is essentially a program in which students take classes on the computer. There is a significant difference; for example, your essays and written components are not actually checked for anything but quantity, and you are required to retake tests until you pass. This has lead to up to 20 retakes among the less bright of our school.

Our principal is pressuring our single qualified AP Government teacher to drop her five classes and become the Dean of Students. He intends for every single AP and regular Gov't teacher to take AP classes in the E2020 system, on the idea that, apparently, this would adequately prepare us for college and the AP tests. We're talking a class where you're not graded on the content of the work, but simply for doing the work.

We have had 9 principals in the past 12 years. Last year, for the second semester, we didn't have any principal. The college counselors don't know our names and are never in. If you are at all tardy to any class, the doors are locked and you are sent to In-School Suspension for the remainder of the school day.

If you dropped a class and didn't inform the teacher of the class (and trust me, they didn't tell us we needed to), you were counted absent every day. Most kids dropped classes because their schedule was insane and didn't allow them to graduates. Thus, many kids, including myself, have 40 or 50 absences, and dozens of truancy officers have been dispatched to the parents of the students to do god knows what.

Our dropout rate is hovering around 60%. Of our class of about 300-350, I believe maybe 80 are college-bound, and out of those 80 maybe 20 or 25 are headed out of state. That doesn't sound like a big deal, but unless you're planning on studying viral pathology or something relating to crime, going to school here is not the best thing.

Last year, we had three bomb threats, one of which turned out to be real, there was a shooting down the street, there were numerous lockdowns as a result of gang activity (the WSL13 and south-siders don't get along so well). In total, we missed about 35 hours of schooling due to violent or threatening situations. When the gang violence started getting bad, the school's response was, quite naturally, to build a chainlink fence around our five acres of property. No one is quite sure how this affects anything.

Security guards keep us in our lunch area. If you are persistent in asking to be let out, they will put you in cuffs and cart you off to the administrative building for suspension. Today, a diabetic friend of mine forgot her bag in the main building, which included her lunch, her insulin and her blood sugar monitor. She was apparently a little too persistent in asking for the right to continue living, and was put in cuffs and taken to the building. Thankfully, her mother is a teacher and happened to spot her panicking daughter being arrested.

Last tuesday, our district needed 13 subs. We got 3. Our district's superintendent was one; she spent the entire art class talking to the students and asking them what they did not like about the school. In response to their complaints, she fired one teacher and shut down three classes because the students "didn't like it". The teachers who are philanthropic or insane enough to put up with this nonsense got essentially insulted recently; the cost of living went up by a degree of tens or hundreds of dollars since this time last year. Every single teacher got a $.40 raise. That's not hourly, or daily. That's annually. Teachers get $.40 more a year as of last Monday. Woo.

TL;DR: The higher rungs of both students and teacher agree that the school is on a severe downward path, and one way or another something needs to happen. Most of us are just praying we can graduate before everything goes to shit. There are talks of strikes and walkouts - wouldn't be the first time.

So. How shitty is your school?

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    tldr;

    edit: seriously though i would not like to go to that school

    my schools weren't so bad

    though with every state change the kids seemed to get dumber

    in virginia i learned a ton

    the years in california were everyone else learning what i already had

    the years in utah were just them learning what i had now studied 2x and they had no clue

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    i live in a nice suburb so my school was ok

    i don't go there anymore

    taking this online home school thing for 1 year

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  • RiceCookRiceCook Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    too read didn't long

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    tldr;

    there.

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  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    tl;dr?

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Damn. I thought my school was pretty shitty, but yours seems a lot worse.

    All we have is 2000 kids in a building meant for 800 and an outrageous number of kids that can't read.

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  • OrestesOrestes Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My schools so shitty the webpage hasn't been updated since last year

    Then they asked me to rebuild it.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Hey guys, the meaning of E2020?

    Education of the year 2020.

    Apparently in the year 2020 everyone is doing credit recovery or something.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    no child left behind

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  • Just Like ThatJust Like That Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    That makes me a saaaad panda

    If this is what happens in New Mexico, and they are the second worst, what the fuck is going on in Mississippi?

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    seriously guys if you're not going anywhere then technically you're not leaving anyone behind

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    The name of my school ended in "Prep" so I guess I did alright

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    my school is good at taking tests

    but we suck at football

    I just got back from watching a game we lost 67-0

    it would have been higher, but we forfeited before it was over

    we gave up 37 points in the first quarter

    two of the other team's first three plays scored touchdowns

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Hey guys, the meaning of E2020?

    Education of the year 2020.

    Apparently in the year 2020 everyone is doing credit recovery or something.

    we had a course that teachers who didn't know what they were doing loved to use called Plato

    it was a lot like what you described

    it was intended so that you could retake it over and over, and the lessons were long, and repeated themselves often as to take up time

    anyone who actually knew the course (and some cheaters) just hit 'Next' 600 times and took the 10 question test (or took the answers from someone else)

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  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Jesus

    Mine wasnt nearly that bad (florida), though most of us higher level kids coasted through with next to no challenges

    My only experience with the New Mexico school system was going to Logan, NM k-12 school for 6 months (parents seprated, mom's parents live out there). It wasnt that bad, kinda cool since they had exactly 1 class for each grade, so a new kid was a godsend to them (really nice bunch of kids thinking back). They had this cool/annoying thing were you went to like 8 1/2 hours of class a day, but didnt go to school on fridays (except for when we needed to make a up a day for whatever reason). Thats right, every week was a three day weekend

    Good times

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    I went to a very well off high school with a 98% graduation rate and the majority of students went into the UC system

    There was maybe five dudes that weren't white or asian

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I went to a very well off high school with a 98% graduation rate and the majority of students went into the UC system

    There was maybe five dudes that weren't white or asian

    Out of 2000, there are probably about a hundred white kids in my school.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I used to go to a prep school, but I moved, because my main interests are theatre and psychology, and this shithole of a school I go to has the third best drama program in the country (among public schools I think) and the psych teacher is also brilliant. It sucks going to a school that panders to the lowest common denominator, especially when said denominator seems to be more interested in stabbing itself (literally) than learning, but if you put forth the work, you can get a great education here, as the AP teachers are uniformly brilliant. You just have to do all the work yourself. I designed my schedules, I found my colleges, I received and sent my transcript, I found out when all the testing and college deadlines were...the college counselor is, quite frankly, a useless cunt that shows up for about an hour a day, and only on days that aren't Fridays.

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  • Just Like ThatJust Like That Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Killjoy, what was happening to He-Man in your profile pic? There are so many things that could cause him to make that facial expression. Some that I am imagining right now.

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My current school has a 100% graduation rate, and 95% of the students go on to other universities/colleges

    hooray for super-specialised charter schools

    100% grad rate and 85% go onto post-secondary education for my old school

    and this was considered the worst out of the 3 public schools in the district

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Killjoy wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I went to a very well off high school with a 98% graduation rate and the majority of students went into the UC system

    There was maybe five dudes that weren't white or asian

    Out of 2000, there are probably about a hundred white kids in my school.

    Out of 1400, probably 50-80 here.

    Nothing, nothing at all has made me more racist than going to this school. It might sound terrible, but at this point I generally assume that hispanic kids in baggy clothes are idiots because I have in two years of attending this school never met one (and believe me there are plenty, probably 80% of the school) that wasn't a "y charlar like fohk I'm going to drop out and work at allsup's and shit man" type of guy.

    Thanks to attending a predominantly hispanic school, I now just generally assume that white kids are smarter than hispanic kids in the environment of my school. Great.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    There was literally less than a dozen black guys

    like, I could name all of them at one point in time

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So I would guess you live in the greater Albuquerque Sprawl?

    I went to high school long ago so the stupid shit that went on there is long ago allthough I do want one person to pay with my unholy revenge

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Brainleech wrote: »
    So I would guess you live in the greater Albuquerque Sprawl?

    I went to high school long ago so the stupid shit that went on there is long ago allthough I do want one person to pay with my unholy revenge

    Santa Fe.

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  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My school had no facilities and some shit teachers, but man i had a great time there

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  • Just Like ThatJust Like That Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Nothing, nothing at all has made me more racist than going to this school. It might sound terrible, but at this point I generally assume that hispanic kids in baggy clothes are idiots

    Let's not discriminate, now. It's all kids in baggy clothes that are idiots.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    There was literally less than a dozen black guys

    like, I could name all of them at one point in time

    Yeah we have one.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    we aught to take a page from the Incan book of doing-things and engage in some Mitimae

    or maybe, maybe a little Diaspora


    no those are both terrible ideas

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  • OrestesOrestes Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    There was literally less than a dozen black guys

    like, I could name all of them at one point in time

    Yeah we have one.

    I can name all the asians that attend my school.

    Orestes.

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    Killjoy wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I went to a very well off high school with a 98% graduation rate and the majority of students went into the UC system

    There was maybe five dudes that weren't white or asian

    Out of 2000, there are probably about a hundred white kids in my school.

    Out of 1400, probably 50-80 here.

    Nothing, nothing at all has made me more racist than going to this school. It might sound terrible, but at this point I generally assume that hispanic kids in baggy clothes are idiots because I have in two years of attending this school never met one (and believe me there are plenty, probably 80% of the school) that wasn't a "y charlar like fohk I'm going to drop out and work at allsup's and shit man" type of guy.

    Thanks to attending a predominantly hispanic school, I now just generally assume that white kids are smarter than hispanic kids in the environment of my school. Great.

    My school is sort of like that with Persians and Afghans and Pakistanis and Indians, but there's plenty of them that study and do well.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Of the high school I graduated from about 25% or more of the 267 students went to the miltary and a good chunk of the rest left
    Wyoming in general really has a problem luring people to stay

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    well, yeah

    it is wyoming

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  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    We had one black kid and no other minorities, truly it was a paradise

    the second part's a joke of course

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    FAQ wrote: »
    We had one black kid and no other minorities, truly it was a paradise

    the second part's a joke of coarse

    morals?

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Orestes wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    There was literally less than a dozen black guys

    like, I could name all of them at one point in time

    Yeah we have one.

    I can name all the asians that attend my school.

    Orestes.
    naming all the asians that attend my school would mean naming around 80% of the students and I'm just not up for that

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2007
    ridin' the joke train into racism town

    some dumb 49ers QB graduated from my highschool like 3 years before I did

    care

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I knew of someone that the senior counciler all but blew people to get him into a well known football program ;Nebraska
    When I came back from training I saw he had a child and a screw in brace holding his knee together

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  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My high school was about 60% white, 5% Latino, and 35% black. This was in a somewhat poor area, especially for most of the blacks and latinos. The things with the whites though is most of us have parents who work at either the Space Center as engineers or something requiring a degree or the air force base. So, most of the white kids were in the upper level courses, and most blacks were in the low level courses.

    Very weird area. We were/are the worst of the high schools in Brevard County, but most people are trying to actively change that because we hate it.

    Also, we had a principle and 3 other assistant principals fired over FCAT stuff. They were taking the "special ed" kids in 9th and 10th grade and listing them as 11th graders so their scores wouldnt negatively affect the school

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