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lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
My brother is finishing his basement and wants to set up a home theater. He's looking to put in a pretty big TV, say about 50" or so. Anyone have experience with this sort of thing? I took a look at avsforums but that place seems pretty stratified.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Why bit a projector?
    Also, yea, AVS, definitly

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  • BulbasaurBulbasaur Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    The trick to getting useful information from the AVS forum I find is to know your budget before going into it.

    There are a lot of opinions over which TV/Projector/Whatever is the best but a lot of the time disputes are arising from the value their dollars are getting. Honestly when it comes to the higher end I guess around 3,000+ there is a lot of difference between the models at the same time there isn't THAT much of a difference. It only seems that way because a lot of the guys there have very strong opinions on what they like and the minor differences between similar sets are really the major points of contention.

    I'm guessing the fact that your seeking advice on what TV is the best bet means your probably not a MAJOR videophile and depending on your price range you're not gonna notice much a difference between sets in that range.

    So uh in conclusion, ask yourself:

    Do I need 1080p? Over HDMI? Component?
    How much am I willing to spend?
    Does the TV has some supporters? (If it's universally reviled on AVS it's probably for a reason.)
    Which one that meets the above criteria matches my decor?

    The answer to your last question will probably land you with a pretty decent set.

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you're going to spend the money you want 1080p and HDMI 1.3+.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Unless you don't think those things are important that is

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you're going to spend the money you want 1080p and HDMI 1.3+.

    Theres a thread on AVS Forums about how HDMI 1.3+ effectively doesn't matter.


    Anyway the thing to remember when going to the AVS forum is that the majority of the members really aren't price conscious. They want the best, not necessarily the best value. For finding a TV I would recommend picking a price point then going to the store and looking at TVs that have a MSRP thats a little more than your price point and see what you think is good and contains the features you want. Write down the models and then go to AVS and read the threads on those TVs. Then go back to the store with that information and look some more, fiddle with the settings, ask to setup your own inputs etc. Finally I recommend not buying from a big box store either online or at some specialty store you can generally get several hundred or more off the MSRP.

    edit: One thing to decide as well is if you want a DLP, Plasma, LCD, or projector and all of then have their own pros and cons.

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  • CycophantCycophant Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    khain wrote: »
    inally I recommend not buying from a big box store either online or at some specialty store you can generally get several hundred or more off the MSRP.

    The only problem I see with this (and normally I would fully agree with you) is that if something goes wrong, or the TV arrives and it's DOA, you can very quickly lose that several-hundred-dollar advantage with shipping costs and delays. And I know that if I'm paying a few grand for a television, it's going to be damn-well-perfect before I fully accept it.

    So just know that it is a gamble if you're going to order your TV online. Sometimes you'll get it right the first time, and save a cool few hundred dollars. Other times, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass.

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Cycophant wrote: »
    khain wrote: »
    inally I recommend not buying from a big box store either online or at some specialty store you can generally get several hundred or more off the MSRP.

    The only problem I see with this (and normally I would fully agree with you) is that if something goes wrong, or the TV arrives and it's DOA, you can very quickly lose that several-hundred-dollar advantage with shipping costs and delays. And I know that if I'm paying a few grand for a television, it's going to be damn-well-perfect before I fully accept it.

    So just know that it is a gamble if you're going to order your TV online. Sometimes you'll get it right the first time, and save a cool few hundred dollars. Other times, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass.

    You don't necessarily have to buy online. This might be a WA/OR store only, but Video Only for example has TVs that are almost always under MSRP. I know the Sony TV I bought from them was $600 below the price at BB or CC.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Thanks for all the advice so far. I have a few questions still. I'm assuming my brother will have a lot of SD content for a while, in fact I don't know if he will have any HD content at all since he wants to wait till his current tivo contract is over before upgrading his cable and recorder at the same time.. Of course, LCDs will have to upscale the image but I don't really know how plasma screens work, are they more like LCD or more like CRTs?

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you are gonna buy a 50-70" screen, DLPs cost so much less than plasmas and are awesome. We got a new Samsung 1080p for much under $2k this past January.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ok, I need to resurect this thread. My attempts to steer my brother towards a nice 65" DLP failed mostly because his wife is set on hanging the set on the wall. According to him, plasma is the way to go since this will be in his basement and he can control the light levels which should nullify it's main disadvantages.

    In particular, he has this 58" Panasonic in mind. As it turns out it would be cheaper to get this version instead. As far as I can see the main difference is that the more expensive model just adds an extra HDMI connector to the front. Since he doesn't have a 360 or PS3 I don't really see the point.

    If anyone knows about these two models or can tell me how many HMDI ports are enough that would be great.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If you are going to invest in a nice TV for a home theatre setup, you should also invest in a decent reciever and surround system. With one of those, you only need one hdmi port.
    Both of those TV look decent enough, but a few things to be aware of. Plasmas kick out alot of heat. Since this is in a basement, probably large, shouldn't be an issue. To wall mount SAFELY you either need to mount the bracket to two studs, or to put a cross beam between two studs and mount to that. Since most studs are 16 inches apart, this is usually a bit too big for a mounting plate to hit both of them.
    Also, for a nice clean look, run the wires in the wall. However, it is illegal to run a power cord through the wall if it is not through conduit. Depending on the cash they are willing to spend for the final look, it may be better to have a new electrical box installed behind the tv.

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    how many HMDI ports are enough
    How many HDMI devices does your brother have? How many new HDMI devices could you see being added to the system over time? Add the two numbers together, add one for future-proofing, that's how many are likely enough for this setup.
    If you are going to invest in a nice TV for a home theatre setup, you should also invest in a decent reciever and surround system.
    Also, this. A good AV receiver adds a lot to the overall impression to the system (movies, TV and games are a lot less fun with crap sound). If it's an upconverting receiver, i.e. one that will take all inputs and upconvert them to 1080p on the HDMI output, that will also make the system a lot easier to use, and mean less fiddling with multiple remotes.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Not only should be it upconverting, but it needs to be have HDMI pass through in order to send non-HDMI information across the HDMI cable.

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