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WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 Demo Up (360)
Kyougu
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Was just checking the demo section and saw that the demo for this year's smackdown is up.
It's funny, but I think this year will be the first year since the first Smackdown came out that I won't be purchasing this game. Partly due to the glut of awesome games coming out, partly due to the fact that wrestling isn't what it used to be, and partly due to the fact that THQ seems to be getting real lazy with this series. No DLC for the third year in a row? That's stupid, specially since it could go a long way in fixing the crappy roster.
I really think they need to get on the DLC bandwagon, release wrestler packs a few months after the game comes out, and release a full version of the game every 2 years or so.
Anyways, maybe the demo will change my mind.
It's funny, but I think this year will be the first year since the first Smackdown came out that I won't be purchasing this game. Partly due to the glut of awesome games coming out, partly due to the fact that wrestling isn't what it used to be, and partly due to the fact that THQ seems to be getting real lazy with this series. No DLC for the third year in a row? That's stupid, specially since it could go a long way in fixing the crappy roster.
I really think they need to get on the DLC bandwagon, release wrestler packs a few months after the game comes out, and release a full version of the game every 2 years or so.
Anyways, maybe the demo will change my mind.
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I haven't watched WWE in years because of how terrible it is. I mean, yeah, it was always pretty terrible but at least it use to be fun. I might pick up next years SvR simply because the devs have said they are going to focus on online features for it.
I dream of player created federations with their own belts, recorded match features like Halo 3 has, federations being able to host cards where players, when not participating in a match, can watch and talk amongst themselves, recordable in-game engine interviews that can be sent to everyone who is a registered member of the federation, and balanced multiplayer.
Anyways...I'm not too fond of 2008's new control scheme. Using the left bumper to run instead of Y was hard to get used to, but now you can run around in any direction, which is nice. No more awkwardly missed clotheslines!
Most likely it'll be a rental.
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Just give me No Mercy on XBLA or VC. There's also Fire Pro Wrestling Returns coming out for the PS2 for 15 bucks.
Anyway, this game is really the posterboy for "same old, same old". I could've sworn I was playing last year's iteration. I've never liked the SvR games; they've got terrible controls, the animation is godawful, and they just feel clunky as hell. The TNA game doesn't look that much better, but we haven't seen a lot of it - if anything, it will at least create some competition which US wrestling games have sorely lacked.
Ignoring the amazing amount of non-wrestling that goes on during these events, I really do think its the lack of a real superstar. People like the Rock and Austin ooze charisma, you tuned in because they fucking rocked. I don't care or know who half the people in there are right now but they sure as hell ain't interesting. Their champs are two steroid pumped, talentless guys fighting against non-english speaking giants and fat guys.
Kennedy.
And I played the demo, and pretty much got what I expected. Same old game. Game needs a shake up more than an ever. THQ really needs to stop just adding little features in the game, and do an overhaul.
- Analog submission system, which could be neat, but I couldn't find an explanation of how it works.
- Fighting styles thing, which basically gives you two random abilities that don't seem balanced in the slightest. Some seem almost useless, some seem ridiculously overpowered.
- Removal of the breathing/stamina meter, probably one of the only decent additions to the engine in the past couple of years (I'll let them slide for basically stealing the idea from Fire Pro, it's a great idea to pace matches).
So...yeah. I wouldn't call last year's game amazing, but it was at least playable, while this new drek is just a sad excuse for an engine. It's a shame that the lack of WWE license and steep learning curve means Fire Pro won't even put a tiny chip in SvR sales.
He ripped his pectoral doing a hip toss.
Also, everyone hates Cena because he's been doing the same thing for a year. He was stale and they just kept the belt on him.
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But then the Chris Benoit thing happened and it feels weird playing a game with him in it. So I never picked one up.
The analog submission works out pretty good actually, when you know how to do it. Say you're doing a boston crab..yu want to push up on the stick to apply pressure, but too much and you lose your grib and break the hold. When your grip icon starts to slip, ease up on pressure. What I don't like is the fact that they got rid of the tap out meter. There's no way to tell if your opponent is close to tapping out, you just have to assume he's close.
And say what you want about the fighting style abilities, but using the brawler ability to pound the living hell out of an opponents head with the analog stick is a very rewarding experience.
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Is he still hurt? I havent watched in awhile but I was a big Kennedy fan and it looked like they were building him up the right way. It seemed like the plan was to have him a year long slow burn with him and the money in the bank case leading up to next year's WM.
Then he got hurt and they gave to case to Edge who used it immediatley.
Yeah it's like no one else does the same thing, Cena was one of the more enjoyable wrestlers to watch at the moment till he hurt himself, He deserved to have the championship especially compared to guys like Triple H who are just overrated.
I do wish Kennedy would get the championship though but I doubt that will happen anytime soon unfortunately.
I came here to Wrasle, not to fart round with how much I'm paying John Cena or if the Undertaker thinks he's not getting enough TV time.
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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and on the WWE: i think Triple H is their biggest name right now, just that he is being used as a good guy which he is NOT, he has been known to boost others carrears just by being the bad guy.
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This is Cena's major problem. Noone buys that, that piece of shit submission move or that F-U where he just basically drops to his side with a guy on his shoulders are legitimately powerful moves and NOONE buys Cena as a submission artist because he isn't. Hes a thug, he plays the thug life and a submission/technical wrestler he ain't.
Umm, Edge was champ before he got hurt. Orton is champ now.
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i loved edge's reign as champ, always manged to slip through the cracks. i hope they give hime another chance
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I don't know if that's it, though. The "boos" were loud and clear a LONG time ago for Cena. I never got it. I mean, I know he's not quite on par with Rock or Austin in their primes, but I always liked him. Plus, giving him a nice long title run was at least a change from Triple H toting it around 10 months out of every year. Plus he made a better champ than Edge, I think. Not that I don't like Edge or Triple H, but still...
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Of course, if you been following the smackdown games, you shouldn't be surprise. They tend to have one good year, and one bad year. For my money, Here Comes the Pain is the best one of the lot. It plays the best, and also has the bext roster(Lesnar, RVD, Booker) Man, I wish I had my ps2 to pick up fire pro. If nothing else, I I would spend hours with the create a player. Too bad they won't have all the songs the japanese ones do. I remember playing the dreamcast one and it having the "my way" song by Limp Bizkit, which at the time was awesome because they were using it for Wrestlemania 17.
And don't worry folks, Jericho will save Raw. I mean, that's what his teasers have been saying, and why would they lie?
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I do like the fact that Irish Whip has now been mapped to a single button though.
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I played the demo last night and that is all I could think.
No stamina bar? That was the best damn addition last year. If you didn't like the bar you could turn it off in the options.
As far as I could figure out there are no grapple move with weapons now, which is just random and dumb.
The running and finisher buttons were moved, not a big deal but it doesn't seem to have served any purpose.
They still haven't added back in the mini-games that started the match like they had in '06. Those were great and added a real wrestling feel to the game.
Fighting style system, just, lord, nice idea but worst execution imaginable. So for Dirty you get to remove the turnbuckle pad, use the ref as a shield, and perform a dirty finishing move. Well holy shit I could do all of that last year! Hell I could take off the turnbuckle padding as a face, it just dropped my momentum bar instead of fill it up if I was a heel. The High Flyer abilities? They were all just regular moves you could pick last year. The only new stuff that works the way the system should are the Thrasher and Basher abilities, which basically put you into a "Hulked out" mode.
I really don't understand how you can make the same game every year and always fuck it up. I mean, I'm use to two steps forward, one step back but this time it feels like eight steps backward. I don't even know why I bother anymore. Hopefully the TNA game will avoid sucking ass.
What the hell did they do all year? Figure out new and exciting ways to make their game worse?
Look at Spider-Man 3. It shouldn't be possible to actually detrimentally affect your game but yet they manage it.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to AKI?
You need the hardcore fighting style.
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Bolded for massive truth. Every year you got the feeling they were improving (very slightly) the series, but also taking something from it. THis year though is like they couldn't figure out what small improvement to make, so they just threw in the first thing that came to mind. It really seems to be the breaking point for alot of former Smackdown fans. Christ I hope TNA gives them competition.
HOLY FUCK THAT IS THE WORST IDEA EVER
That is even worse really, I mean that relegates you to being either a face or a heel rather than doing the switch. Got screwed out of the belt by your crappy AI'd partner? Walk out on the jerk and return as a bad guy. But you dont have that option mid-match and after what? 20 games? Not all by THQ I don't think but still, a LOT of WWE games, its getting pretty fucking pathetic. And Lazy. The assets are already there for you, a year is more than enough time to do something worthwhile.
One thing they need to get rid of is the idea you need to hit your finisher three times to finish someone, that's retarded. Make it take longer to build up to a finisher, but when you get it, that's fucking over!
I haven't watched wrestling either, is Batista still around? I liked him he wasn't the stereotypical bigman out of the ring his comedic timing was funny (to me at least).
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As for this years game, I've yet to try the demo, but from the comments above about the changes I don't think I'll even bother. Thanks for the heads up guys.
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The Raw side I keep up with a bit more and watch when I can so I could probably discuss characters on that show a bit better.
To keep with the game conversation, has a complete roster been released? I'm curious as to how out dated the game will be by the time it comes out with certain people leaving/returning to the company recently/soon.
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Superstars
- Rey Mysterio1,4
- Ric Flair1
- The Sandman
- Shad Gaspard
- Shawn Michaels1,4
- Snitsky1,4
- The Great Khali
- Tommy Dreamer
- Triple H1,4
- Umaga
- The Undertaker1,4
- William Regal
Divas- Mickie James
- Torrie Wilson3
Legends- Sgt. Slaughter5
- Stone Cold Steve Austin
- Terry Funk
Referees(non playable)
- Nick Patrick
Commentators(non playable)
- SmackDown!
- Michael Cole
- JBL
Other non-playable characters- Tony Chimel
- Triple H in a suit
- Vince McMahon3
1 This character appears in the Nintendo DS version as a playable character.2 This character is exclusive to the Nintendo DS version.
3 This character appears in the Nintendo DS version as a non-playable character.
4 This character appears in the mobile version.
5 This character is exclusive to the PlayStation Portable version.
As for how out of date the roster is, I couldn't say. I do know that Booker T was recently released from the WWE.
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