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Should I replace my GeForce 8600 GT with an 8800 whatever?
I had put the 8600 GT in this comp for...I dunno why. It runs Bioshock at full graphics and all the Orange Box games well, but I was just reading some reviews and the 8800 just demolishes it
It'll fit and everything, right? So if I do that is the 640 mb one overkill? The 320mb is like $250 which is close to my limit for pissing away money. Can I sell the 8600 for at least a decent fraction of the original cost? Or do you think the 8600 GT will still serve me ok for a while? I'd be wanting to run games at 1440x900
There is no point in upgrading a card if it already runs the games you want to run. An 8600 does indeed demolish it, but 1440x900 is not a gigantic resolution. You'd be better off waiting until nVidia drops the 9XXX generation, IMHO. Either you buy one of those, or you buy a newly-cheap 8800.
I had put the 8600 GT in this comp for...I dunno why. It runs Bioshock at full graphics and all the Orange Box games well, but I was just reading some reviews and the 8800 just demolishes it
It'll fit and everything, right? So if I do that is the 640 mb one overkill? The 320mb is like $250 which is close to my limit for pissing away money. Can I sell the 8600 for at least a decent fraction of the original cost? Or do you think the 8600 GT will still serve me ok for a while? I'd be wanting to run games at 1440x900
ram on video cards is a wildly inaccurate way to determine how much it can handle
I know but the higher end cards have more memory and increasingly huger busses and speeds, and I couldn't remember all their names (8800 GTS ultra and such)
LCDs have natural resolutions so how much bigger can you get? I guess if 1440x900 is a 19 inch widescreen with a 16:10 aspect ratio, I guess a 20 or 21 inch with the same ratio would be like, well much bigger.
I had put the 8600 GT in this comp for...I dunno why. It runs Bioshock at full graphics and all the Orange Box games well, but I was just reading some reviews and the 8800 just demolishes it
It'll fit and everything, right? So if I do that is the 640 mb one overkill? The 320mb is like $250 which is close to my limit for pissing away money. Can I sell the 8600 for at least a decent fraction of the original cost? Or do you think the 8600 GT will still serve me ok for a while? I'd be wanting to run games at 1440x900
Firstly there's a speedbump/refresh coming to the 8800 line in middle of november, so definitely don't buy anything till then.
In your situation I would honestly try and keep my 8600GT until the 9X series from nVidia and X3 from ATI. (Spring next year seems to be everyones early guesses). It might help if you play around with some overclocking utilities like Rivatuner if you get bored so you can eek out a few extra FPS in some games, but a lot of the recent releases seem to be running supersmooth on even midrange graphic cards (UT3, CoD4, Gears of War etc)
Just wait for the next series of videocards to come out, the ones with DX 10.1 support. Buying an 8800 now, when you already have an 8600, is a waste of money.
Just wait for the next series of videocards to come out, the ones with DX 10.1 support. Buying an 8800 now, when you already have an 8600, is a waste of money.
BZZT! Wrong. The current dx10 cards support dx10 and dx10.1. Sorry, but you made it sound as if any and all current dx10 hardware will be outdated in the first update of DX10. Which isn't the case or nvidia and amd would kill MS for their loss of customers because who wants to buy something that is $500 only to have it go obsolete 3 months later.
For the OP. I would keep the 8600GT for a good while. Look into putting th money into different accessories instead.
Many people will tell you to wait for the 9XXXXXXXX this is wrong. I'll tell you why.
The jump from the 8600 to the 8800 GTX is earth shattering. There is a COLOSSAL difference, which won't be as pronounced when you go from the 8800 to those first generation 9XXX coming out in spring or so.
The 8800 is mindblowingly fast, nearly twice the speed of your 8600. That means it's faster than two of those cards put together and sometimes it's nearly the same price as an 8600. And when you want to upgrade later, you can use SLI to add another 8800 which is better than having 4 of your 8600s put together and running in a single machine. Basically the 8800 is fucking insane right now and you should get it, it will be a card that defines 2007. And in history it will go down as a fuckawesome card. You can also sell your 8600 and put that money toward buying the new card.
Also I knew a guy once who was always waiting for the "next best thing" to come out rather than enjoying the best hardware right away. He died in a car accident one day and never got to see what awesome graphics and computing look like because he was waiting for the next best thing and thus running outdated hardware.
Current cards don't do DX10.1 but it barely matters at all. In any case, I'd wait. Wait because you can already run what you want to run, wait because cards will get cheaper when the 9XXX series is out, wait because at 1440x900 you won't use 640MB of RAM and all the processing power of an 8800.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
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Replace the card when you find something that it cannot run.
I would wager that will not be for a long time.
Aside from that, the only reason to upgrade to the 8800 is techno-nerd-brownie-points with the forumers here. actually that does sound kinda offensive, what i mean is that aside from bragging rights "OMG I HAVE AN 8800!!" there is no real appreciable difference between the 8600 and the 8800.
You might be able to run games at 150fps instead of 80fps, but that difference is imperceptible.
there are situations where the 8800 320 MB is NOT SUFFICIENT even.
8800 GTX is a very good purchase for people wishing to play the most demanding and recent games on max settings, at high resolutions, at framerates north of at least 30 but even 60, AND toss some AA and AF in there wherever possible.
SLI might be for bragging rights. 8800 series is absolutely not
Replace it when you feel that the 8600GT isn't letting you play your games the way you'd like. Don't buy an 8800 right now just because you know it's better. If your current card is playing your current games well at high settings, why waste money? Get one later when it's cheaper.
I had put the 8600 GT in this comp for...I dunno why. It runs Bioshock at full graphics and all the Orange Box games well, but I was just reading some reviews and the 8800 just demolishes it
It'll fit and everything, right? So if I do that is the 640 mb one overkill? The 320mb is like $250 which is close to my limit for pissing away money. Can I sell the 8600 for at least a decent fraction of the original cost? Or do you think the 8600 GT will still serve me ok for a while? I'd be wanting to run games at 1440x900
Firstly there's a speedbump/refresh coming to the 8800 line in middle of november, so definitely don't buy anything till then.
Wait I thought the November announcement was rumored to be the 9 Series.
Now I'm confused again, which always happens when I'm dealing with video cards.
Yah, I'll just skip this high generation and get the next one, I'm thinking
Thanks for the advice!
Now the thought HAD crossed my mind about getting a bigger monitor. So I would probably need a better video card then to run games in its natural resolution? Then I'll probably hold off on that too. The 19 inch widescreen is fine, I'd had a 16 inch CRT since 2002 ^_^
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Yah, I'll just skip this high generation and get the next one, I'm thinking
Thanks for the advice!
Now the thought HAD crossed my mind about getting a bigger monitor. So I would probably need a better video card then to run games in its natural resolution? Then I'll probably hold off on that too. The 19 inch widescreen is fine, I'd had a 16 inch CRT since 2002 ^_^
Unlikely. the 8600GT handles a 22' widescreen LCD just fine in its native resolution, although the most taxing game we played on it was Battlefield 2142.
Unlikely. the 8600GT handles a 22' widescreen LCD just fine in its native resolution, although the most taxing game we played on it was Battlefield 2142.
where can one buy these 22 foot wide screen lcds. I want one
"just fine" clearly means very different things to very different people.
If it's not running at 1920x1080 with 4x anti-aliasing and full effects then it just looks like crap
Really though, how much do you care about having things be just right? Hell, I play a bunch of newer games on either a 4400 or a Radeon 200M, because I'm building a compy this summer, and I'm just working with what I have now. I think they run "just fine" because, hey, they run. They look a lot more like ass than an 8800 could run them at, but they run without frame stutters, save crazy games like Bioshock which I can't run.
Supposedly the 8800GT will be released within 30 days. For $250, 512Mb VRAM, and power almost equal to a GTX.
There is a pretty heavy rumors about ATI's refresh and supposedly it'll blow away Nvidia's cards. We'll just have to wait and see though
The 8800GT is supposed to come out this Monday.
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"just fine" for me is 30 fps average at max graphical settings (game looks as the developer intended/their vision) at 1680x1050 minimum
ideal would be north of 60 fps minimum, max graphical settings, at 2560x1600 with some AA and AF.
the best cards now cant do the ideal for the next 3 years, and the much lower power'd "midrange" offerings of now cant do the "just fine" for the next 3 either.
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ram on video cards is a wildly inaccurate way to determine how much it can handle
LCDs have natural resolutions so how much bigger can you get? I guess if 1440x900 is a 19 inch widescreen with a 16:10 aspect ratio, I guess a 20 or 21 inch with the same ratio would be like, well much bigger.
Firstly there's a speedbump/refresh coming to the 8800 line in middle of november, so definitely don't buy anything till then.
In your situation I would honestly try and keep my 8600GT until the 9X series from nVidia and X3 from ATI. (Spring next year seems to be everyones early guesses). It might help if you play around with some overclocking utilities like Rivatuner if you get bored so you can eek out a few extra FPS in some games, but a lot of the recent releases seem to be running supersmooth on even midrange graphic cards (UT3, CoD4, Gears of War etc)
BZZT! Wrong. The current dx10 cards support dx10 and dx10.1. Sorry, but you made it sound as if any and all current dx10 hardware will be outdated in the first update of DX10. Which isn't the case or nvidia and amd would kill MS for their loss of customers because who wants to buy something that is $500 only to have it go obsolete 3 months later.
For the OP. I would keep the 8600GT for a good while. Look into putting th money into different accessories instead.
The jump from the 8600 to the 8800 GTX is earth shattering. There is a COLOSSAL difference, which won't be as pronounced when you go from the 8800 to those first generation 9XXX coming out in spring or so.
The 8800 is mindblowingly fast, nearly twice the speed of your 8600. That means it's faster than two of those cards put together and sometimes it's nearly the same price as an 8600. And when you want to upgrade later, you can use SLI to add another 8800 which is better than having 4 of your 8600s put together and running in a single machine. Basically the 8800 is fucking insane right now and you should get it, it will be a card that defines 2007. And in history it will go down as a fuckawesome card. You can also sell your 8600 and put that money toward buying the new card.
Also I knew a guy once who was always waiting for the "next best thing" to come out rather than enjoying the best hardware right away. He died in a car accident one day and never got to see what awesome graphics and computing look like because he was waiting for the next best thing and thus running outdated hardware.
All that means is that there would be some extra graphical options not available to you when you played the game, not that you couldnt run it at all.
and wait for the 8800GT in november
I would wager that will not be for a long time.
Aside from that, the only reason to upgrade to the 8800 is techno-nerd-brownie-points with the forumers here. actually that does sound kinda offensive, what i mean is that aside from bragging rights "OMG I HAVE AN 8800!!" there is no real appreciable difference between the 8600 and the 8800.
You might be able to run games at 150fps instead of 80fps, but that difference is imperceptible.
the 8600 series and 8800 series are worlds apart.
there are situations where the 8800 320 MB is NOT SUFFICIENT even.
8800 GTX is a very good purchase for people wishing to play the most demanding and recent games on max settings, at high resolutions, at framerates north of at least 30 but even 60, AND toss some AA and AF in there wherever possible.
SLI might be for bragging rights. 8800 series is absolutely not
There is a pretty heavy rumors about ATI's refresh and supposedly it'll blow away Nvidia's cards. We'll just have to wait and see though
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fcn%2F119%2Cnews-119.html&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Wait I thought the November announcement was rumored to be the 9 Series.
Now I'm confused again, which always happens when I'm dealing with video cards.
And those situations? Let me tell you, they're most definitely NOT at 1440x900. See? He doesn't need an 8800, especially now.
Thanks for the advice!
Now the thought HAD crossed my mind about getting a bigger monitor. So I would probably need a better video card then to run games in its natural resolution? Then I'll probably hold off on that too. The 19 inch widescreen is fine, I'd had a 16 inch CRT since 2002 ^_^
Unlikely. the 8600GT handles a 22' widescreen LCD just fine in its native resolution, although the most taxing game we played on it was Battlefield 2142.
There's no point in upgrading just because, that's like throwing away money.
Wait until you have a better reason to upgrade than to "Have the best"
where can one buy these 22 foot wide screen lcds. I want one
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If it's not running at 1920x1080 with 4x anti-aliasing and full effects then it just looks like crap
Really though, how much do you care about having things be just right? Hell, I play a bunch of newer games on either a 4400 or a Radeon 200M, because I'm building a compy this summer, and I'm just working with what I have now. I think they run "just fine" because, hey, they run. They look a lot more like ass than an 8800 could run them at, but they run without frame stutters, save crazy games like Bioshock which I can't run.
But my e-penis is soooo small!
The 8800GT is supposed to come out this Monday.
ideal would be north of 60 fps minimum, max graphical settings, at 2560x1600 with some AA and AF.
the best cards now cant do the ideal for the next 3 years, and the much lower power'd "midrange" offerings of now cant do the "just fine" for the next 3 either.