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Creating a website

KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So, when I was in high school (College now), I ran my own website. Really small stuff, basically stored my own crap and ran a forum in which my friends from high school posted things on.

I had taken a basical HTML course then and also used Microsoft Frontpage (Came with Office, so I used it) to put it together. It looked pretty decent, but was really a mesh of my really basic undderstanding of html and also how to incorporate other people's designs into my own.

For example, I saw some php forum theme and took it's look to design my website around. So I stole its look to start with, but expanded a lot upon it. I know a bit of what I was doing, but any professional website builder would likely think Im a total amateur.

I don't know how to program javascript, php, perl, or basically any language.


The actual question/asking for advice now that you have some background on what I know

I want to help put together a website for a campus organization that has a pretty crappy template-built website at the moment. Should I learn a lot more about HTML to make something cool or should I get some program like Dreamweaver (is that what people use mostly?) to make something?

People don't actually build real websites all in html anymore, right? Maybe some html editing here and there, but mostly in a program like FrontPage or Dreamweaver?

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    KungFu wrote: »
    People don't actually build real websites all in html anymore, right? Maybe some html editing here and there, but mostly in a program like FrontPage or Dreamweaver?

    I would disagree with that statement. Anyone worth his or her salt creates their website by creating code by hand, or at the very least, using a WYSIWYG editor (like Dreamweaver's Design view) and editing out the excessive code.

    Also, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM FRONTPAGE!

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, I could not disagree more with the statement that people don't build in HTML anymore.

    The best people do it by hand, so their code is clean, validates, and makes sense.

    If you want to do it all well, learn XHTML and CSS. If you want to do it properly, learn a scripting language (such as PHP, Ruby on Rails, even ASP.net) that will let you reuse components, probably driven by a database.

    If you want to do it fast, and don't intend to maintain it, just get Dreamweaver and go to town. If you want, you could try using a CMS like Drupal. Or even a wiki.

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    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Oh wow, Drupal looks awesome. Might be quite the thing I want to put on this.

    Also, quite the thing I would had loved to had known about / existed back when I made my high school website.

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I'd suggest learning HTML even if you are going to go with something like Drupal; it'll prevent a lot of headache. Learn CSS too. At least if you have a basic understanding of these two things, and something isn't working, you know what to ask other than "Help! My website is broken!".

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    Legoman05Legoman05 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    For a campus organization, a wiki is *boss.* You can allow any of your officers to post things, and not worry about doing it all yourself.

    pbwiki is actually used on our univeristy proper's security page... here.

    If you're a pro, you can actually keep a 'development' version that's the actual wiki, and then export the raw html from the php dump. A less sophisticated version involves wget or curl, but I think pmwiki has real backup and export options.

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