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Kitten VS Plant

Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplaceShe crawled right inRegistered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Our new bundle of joy has taken a liken to one of our big ol' potted plants, to the point where she hops up into the bed of it and digs, causing soil to get all over the off-white carpet. She also enjoys pissing and shitting in there. I discourage this with a squirt bottle during the day and she has pretty much learned that lesson during the daytime, but inevitably every morning since we adopted her I wake up to find soil, piss, and shit. Help?

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  • zhen_roguezhen_rogue Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Call pet stores in your area, and look for a product with rosemary essence to spray on plants.
    Cats HATE the smell/taste of rosemary, and the solution you buy is undetectable to your nose.

    Just spray some on the plant, in the soil, and on the box/pot itself.
    It's chemical-free, so it won't hurt the plant (just rosemary oil and water).

    Worked like a charm for our cats.

    If the cat is stubborn through the rosemary, try this:
    Get a roll of packing tape (NOT DUCT TAPE) and tear long strips off - leave them face up on the plant bed.
    When the cat jumps up in there, it gets ultra-tangled in the tape.
    Believe me, the cat will not do this more than two times.
    Also works like a charm for keeping cats off kitchen counters - just leave 24" strips of tape face-up around the perimeter of the countertop.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Rosemary essence, huh? I hope I can procure that at Petsmart. I'll give it a try though. Thanks!

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Any suggestions for dealing with my roommate's cat who will occasionally try to use my brand new couches as scratching posts? My roommate's girlfriend got pissy that I was shouting at the cat. I've been meaning to get a squirt gun.

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  • zhen_roguezhen_rogue Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Any suggestions for dealing with my roommate's cat who will occasionally try to use my brand new couches as scratching posts? My roommate's girlfriend got pissy that I was shouting at the cat. I've been meaning to get a squirt gun.

    Squirt guns aren't the best means of cat discipline - they associate YOU with the sqirt gun, which is a bad thing.
    You want them to associate punishment with an object or negative stimulus, NOT you - as they can get rebellious/stand-offish with you, and act even worse in protest.
    Instead, provide a scratching post and make sure the cat knows where it is.
    Spray some of the rosemary oil (mentioned above) on the floor in front of the couch.
    The cat won't want to scratch there, since it "stinks".

    If the cat inists on scratching there, find a way to make a big-ass noise to scare the cat when it scratches.
    Don't yell, you need a noise that isn't directly associated with you.
    I solved this very very quickly by leaving my sterero on, max volume, muted, paused.
    When the cat scratched where it wasn't supposed to, I just calmly grabbed the remote, un-paused and un-muted.
    Very very loud noise (old megadeth cd worked well, hehe) that the cat had no idea was related to me.
    Took about 3 days, and 6-7 scratch attempts - the cat never scratched anything other than his post again.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    zhen_rogue wrote: »
    Any suggestions for dealing with my roommate's cat who will occasionally try to use my brand new couches as scratching posts? My roommate's girlfriend got pissy that I was shouting at the cat. I've been meaning to get a squirt gun.

    Squirt guns aren't the best means of cat discipline - they associate YOU with the sqirt gun, which is a bad thing.
    You want them to associate punishment with an object or negative stimulus, NOT you - as they can get rebellious/stand-offish with you, and act even worse in protest.
    Instead, provide a scratching post and make sure the cat knows where it is.
    Spray some of the rosemary oil (mentioned above) on the floor in front of the couch.
    The cat won't want to scratch there, since it "stinks".

    If the cat inists on scratching there, find a way to make a big-ass noise to scare the cat when it scratches.
    Don't yell, you need a noise that isn't directly associated with you.
    I solved this very very quickly by leaving my sterero on, max volume, muted, paused.
    When the cat scratched where it wasn't supposed to, I just calmly grabbed the remote, un-paused and un-muted.
    Very very loud noise (old megadeth cd worked well, hehe) that the cat had no idea was related to me.
    Took about 3 days, and 6-7 scratch attempts - the cat never scratched anything other than his post again.

    Yeah, as far as I know he has a scratching post up in their room. I'm just annoyed because I spent a lot of money on new couches and part of the deal with them being allowed to have a cat in the house was it not fucking up my things. I'll look into giving the rosemary thing a try I guess.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    For the short term, you can also cover all of the dirt with aluminum foil. Wrap it around the edges, leaving just the trunk of the plant coming out. Kind of like those holiday plants they sell at grocery stores, all wrapped up.

    All that's happening is that she associates the texture of the dirt in that plant with a litter box, so she thinks she's supposed to poop there. Which also means that she tries to cover it up. Hence the mess.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Everytime the cat starts scratching the couch, pick it up, put it by the scratching post, and actually put the paws on the post yourself

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    It helps to have scratching posts EVERYWHERE you can afford to put them, because cats are lazy and when they feel like scratching they aren't going to walk all the way across the house to do it when there is a perfectly good couch right in front of them.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Or I could encourage them to have their cat declawed (I know, generally not a good idea) or paying for the damage to my couches. Disciplining their cat is not my responsibility. Making sure their cat doesn't damage my property is theirs. I'm also not trying to pick up a cat who's never let me do so before and carrying him upstairs to a scratching post.

    I guess i could try to encourage them to buy one for the living room.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    zhen_rogue wrote: »

    Just spray some on the plant, in the soil, and on the box/pot itself.
    It contains no caustic chemicals, so it won't hurt the plant (just rosemary oil and water).

    FTFY. If it exists, it's a chemical. If it contained no chemicals, the bottle would be empty.

    EDIT: @ Gihgehls: Thanks. Hope this makes it easier to read the change I made.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Caustic is the word you forgot to read.

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  • -Spitfire--Spitfire- Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Our new bundle of joy has taken a liken to one of our big ol' potted plants, to the point where she hops up into the bed of it and digs, causing soil to get all over the off-white carpet. She also enjoys pissing and shitting in there.

    My cat does this, and I solved it quite easily by putting pebbles on top of the soil. They're big enough that she doesn't like to dig in them, plus they look nice and seem to help keep the soil moist.

    I got the little mesh bag of pebbles from a craft store or something, I think (some people use them for candle or flower arrangements) though I'm sure if you could find random 2 inch-ish stones outside they would work just as well and also be free!

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  • zhen_roguezhen_rogue Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Yeah, thanks for the clarification.
    The crux of my point was; nothing caustic or synthetic - therefore nothing that will stain your stuff or kill your plants.

    As a disclaimer, my wife swears she could smell the rosemary oil the first day - but then it was gone.
    Then again, her sense of smell is that of a bloodhound - so your mileage may vary.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Our cat did the same thing when we first brought her home. Some Cayenne pepper in the soil worked wonders for us.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So how often would I need to apply said oil

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Or I could encourage them to have their cat declawed (I know, generally not a good idea) or paying for the damage to my couches. Disciplining their cat is not my responsibility. Making sure their cat doesn't damage my property is theirs. I'm also not trying to pick up a cat who's never let me do so before and carrying him upstairs to a scratching post.

    I guess i could try to encourage them to buy one for the living room.

    Unfortunately, you agreed to have a pet in the household, therefore you do have to take a certain level of responsibility. I'm sure your roommates aren't encouraging the cat to scratch the couches; it's what cats do, and disciplining isn't all that useful with cats. If they could put a scratching post by the couch, that's a reasonable solution; get them to teach you to pick the cat up, and ask them to work on redirecting his scratching to the post.

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)

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  • TashTash Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Trowizilla wrote: »

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)


    That depends on the age of the animal. The younger they are, after I believe 3 months or so, the easier it is for them to adapt. I've declawed, front and back, each one of my cats and they've never had a single problem. They actually were much happier after the declaw than before. And the new laser declawing makes it even safer and less painfree than ever.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tash wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)


    That depends on the age of the animal. The younger they are, after I believe 3 months or so, the easier it is for them to adapt. I've declawed, front and back, each one of my cats and they've never had a single problem. They actually were much happier after the declaw than before. And the new laser declawing makes it even safer and less painfree than ever.

    They can adapt, yeah, but it permanently screws up their feet, back, and posture, they can never fully stretch again (which leads to joint issues), and as they get older, the stubs of their toe bones can get more and more sensitive. Sensitive toes often leads to a cat that doesn't want to walk on kitty litter. It's a fairly safe procedure, in that your cat most likely won't die of it, but you're still cutting off the first knuckles of their fingers/toes. I feel bad for your cats.

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  • TashTash Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Tash wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)


    That depends on the age of the animal. The younger they are, after I believe 3 months or so, the easier it is for them to adapt. I've declawed, front and back, each one of my cats and they've never had a single problem. They actually were much happier after the declaw than before. And the new laser declawing makes it even safer and less painfree than ever.

    They can adapt, yeah, but it permanently screws up their feet, back, and posture, they can never fully stretch again (which leads to joint issues), and as they get older, the stubs of their toe bones can get more and more sensitive. Sensitive toes often leads to a cat that doesn't want to walk on kitty litter. It's a fairly safe procedure, in that your cat most likely won't die of it, but you're still cutting off the first knuckles of their fingers/toes. I feel bad for your cats.

    Feel bad for my cats all you want. They can fully stretch and considering that one of them is approching 12 years old and is healthy as can be with no problems of using a litter box or anything like that, it's safe to say that they'll be fine.

    But hey, if you want to believe that declawing is the way of satan, go for it. I'll just go from my 20+ years of experience with owning cats :)

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  • Foxy_RoxyFoxy_Roxy Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Cat's also really don't like citrus, so you could just put some citrus peels in the plant, or some orange essence (which may be more pleasant to you than the rosemary.)

    And yes, no declawing. Most countries have it outlawed as animal cruelty. It'd be like somebody cutting off the tips of your fingers. Remind your roommates of the agreement in getting the cat, and make them replace or repair your furniture. That should make them more interested in training the cat.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tash wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)


    That depends on the age of the animal. The younger they are, after I believe 3 months or so, the easier it is for them to adapt. I've declawed, front and back, each one of my cats and they've never had a single problem. They actually were much happier after the declaw than before. And the new laser declawing makes it even safer and less painfree than ever.

    :shock:

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Tash wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Tash wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »

    (Just had to mention: declawing is a terrible idea. Even if you absolutely don't care about the welfare of the cat, the fact that a lot of declawed cats develope litter box issues. I'm guessing you don't want to live with cat pee all over everything even more than you don't want to live with a scratched-up sofa.)


    That depends on the age of the animal. The younger they are, after I believe 3 months or so, the easier it is for them to adapt. I've declawed, front and back, each one of my cats and they've never had a single problem. They actually were much happier after the declaw than before. And the new laser declawing makes it even safer and less painfree than ever.

    They can adapt, yeah, but it permanently screws up their feet, back, and posture, they can never fully stretch again (which leads to joint issues), and as they get older, the stubs of their toe bones can get more and more sensitive. Sensitive toes often leads to a cat that doesn't want to walk on kitty litter. It's a fairly safe procedure, in that your cat most likely won't die of it, but you're still cutting off the first knuckles of their fingers/toes. I feel bad for your cats.

    Feel bad for my cats all you want. They can fully stretch and considering that one of them is approching 12 years old and is healthy as can be with no problems of using a litter box or anything like that, it's safe to say that they'll be fine.

    But hey, if you want to believe that declawing is the way of satan, go for it. I'll just go from my 20+ years of experience with owning cats :)

    Twelve years isn't very old at all for cats; if they're healthy, they can easily live to twenty. And how would you know they can fully stretch? You're not a vet (I hope), and cats are notorious for not showing signs of pain until things are really, really bad. Declawing isn't the way of Satan, it's an unneccessary and cruel medical procedure that takes place so lazy owners don't have to train their cats.

    I'll take your 20+ years of experience and put it against actual medical evidence. However, this is getting off-topic. If you want to discuss it further, you might make a Debate and Discourse thread.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    zhen_rogue wrote: »
    Any suggestions for dealing with my roommate's cat who will occasionally try to use my brand new couches as scratching posts? My roommate's girlfriend got pissy that I was shouting at the cat. I've been meaning to get a squirt gun.

    Squirt guns aren't the best means of cat discipline - they associate YOU with the sqirt gun, which is a bad thing.
    You want them to associate punishment with an object or negative stimulus, NOT you - as they can get rebellious/stand-offish with you, and act even worse in protest.
    Instead, provide a scratching post and make sure the cat knows where it is.
    Spray some of the rosemary oil (mentioned above) on the floor in front of the couch.
    The cat won't want to scratch there, since it "stinks".

    If the cat inists on scratching there, find a way to make a big-ass noise to scare the cat when it scratches.
    Don't yell, you need a noise that isn't directly associated with you.
    I solved this very very quickly by leaving my sterero on, max volume, muted, paused.
    When the cat scratched where it wasn't supposed to, I just calmly grabbed the remote, un-paused and un-muted.
    Very very loud noise (old megadeth cd worked well, hehe) that the cat had no idea was related to me.
    Took about 3 days, and 6-7 scratch attempts - the cat never scratched anything other than his post again.

    If you want to actually use your stereo again without deafening yourself, you could fill an aluminum can with marbles, and duct tape the top shut. When the cats misbehave, toss the can right next to them. They won't know it was you, and they definitely won't like the noise.

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