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Help me find a new job.

LifeVirusZEROLifeVirusZERO Registered User regular
edited October 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Here's the deal. I'm 19 years old, and for the last year I've been working about 20 hours a week at the customer service counter of a department store. I gift-wrap, help out customers with their issues, help out CO-WORKERS with their issues, manage the layaways, answer the store phone, etc. However, I hate every single minute of it. I am in a bit of a financial...... situation. I am currently not in college so the only thing backing me up is my HS diploma and my job experience (which is this plus 4 months at a grocery store's produce section).

Since I started working here, I've accumulated a bit of debt and now I don't make enough money to cover it all without using MORE credit which... isn't going to be able to last a whole lot longer. I have a lot of credit but it is all good. I've never been late on anything and I always make more than the minimum payments. I'm just starting to run out of it. In fact, I've determined that at my current rate of pay (7.75 per hour), I would have to work at least 48 hours per week just to cover all of my expenses without going "in the hole" any more any more than I already am. Factoring in food and gas and all of my bills, I spend about $1100.00 per month. That doesn't work out very well when I only make like $550.00 per month. I need to find a new job. Something that I don't despise. Here's a list of the things I hate about my job:
- 75% of customers are stupid
- I hate answering phones
- I don't like standing all day. It hurts
- My company does a lot of stupid things
- My co-workers do a lot of stupid things
- I don't like not knowing what a customer is going to want since I'm pretty much there to help the customers with whatever they have problems with. A lot of times a customer will come up to me and tell me of some ridiculous problem that they are having and I always just want to say "Ok, what do you want me to do about it?" I'm a generally nervous person as it is, that's also the reason I don't like answering phones. I don't really like not knowing what I am about to deal with. It would be different if my company prepared us for every possible situation, but that's not exactly an easy thing to do.

Bottom line: I need to get out of retail. I am looking for job recommendations. Looking online seems to be going nowhere because all I can seem to find are manager positions, as well as other things I'm not qualified to do. That and those fake job ads that say you can make $80,000,000.00 per month without doing anything or by being a secret shopper or other ridiculous things. And yes, I do plan on going to college once I get things settled in the money department.

One last thing, I'm great with computers, but I have no professional experience to back me up. I'm good at maintaining a professional appearance, etc.

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  • GiantRoboGiantRobo Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you're up for it, try bar tending. The hours will be late, but you can bring in a nice chunk of change every night. Also from what I heard from a bartender is that most places will train you themselves.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If you're 19 years old, what the hell are you spending $1100 per month on? I assume you're living on your own since you're buying your own food, but where are you living? Unless you're in San Francisco or something, you should not be needing to pay much rent. You do not need a house, you do not need a two-bedroom apartment. All you really need is a room, and you can get one of those for $200-400 per month, depending on where you live.

    As far as food goes, don't eat out, and don't buy junk. A big bag of rice goes a long way. In fact, there was a thread in D&D not too long ago talking about how feasible it is to eat on $21 worth of groceries per week. That's under $100 per month.

    Gas? If you're just driving around town, you shouldn't need that much. Better yet, if you live in an area with a functioning mass transit system, get a monthly bus pass. Cheaper than driving, and it saves wear and tear on your car.

    I know this isn't the advice that you asked for, but at the moment, it seems to me that it's more important for you to start living within your means than for you to find a job that makes you sing with delight in the shower every morning at the thought of being allowed to go in to work at your favourite place in the world.

    Why have you only been working 20 hours a week for a year, while doing nothing else? Get another part-time job, if your current place won't give you more hours. Work at another grocery store if you have to, or try to get into an (incoming) call center. Cut your living expenses, increase your income, and start *saving* money rather than spending it on credit. Once you have a bit of money tucked away in the bank, it will be a lot easier for you to deal with your job situation by taking college classes, getting the actual credentials, etc. For now, though, if you're sinking into debt by $500 every month... well, it doesn't damned well *matter* how much your feet hurt after standing behind a counter for 20 hours a week. Buy some gel inserts, grit your teeth, and deal with the bigger problems.

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  • SigmaConditionSigmaCondition Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Dude, if you're only working 20 hours a week and making $7.75 an hour then you have got some serious cash inflow issues. And what the hell are you spending your money on? Shit, I'm 25 and I manage to keep my expenses to a mimimum. It's called living withIN your means.
    Start looking at what you are spending on that you really don't need and figure out what you can cut. Not to be harsh or anything, but you should def be making more than that. I remember when I was at Wal-Mart back in the day I was making atleast 8.50 or so. And it seems like those numbers just keep going up. But, enough with what you're doing wrong. Here are some ideas on how you can start posting in the green.
    Does your work have any sort of "Senior-****" position? Like senior computer guru or senior customer service rep. Typically working into a position like that will earn you some sort of pay raise and should also come with increased hours.
    Start working more hours. If you are out of school and not in college then there is no reason why you should not be working 40 hours every single week. What else are you going to do with your time? Besides spend money you don't have I mean.
    If you can't get more hours, then start job hunting. Typically 19 yr olds are going to be working jobs with a pretty consistant turnover rate, so you should be able to find something pretty quickly.
    Decide which is more important to you. Working at a job that you like, or being debt free. Here's a hint: The answer is not option A.
    Sometimes you've got to work a shit job to make ends meet, that way you can afford time to find the job that you DO want and switch over.
    Addressing your concerns about your current employ:
    - 75% of customers are stupid
    If I found a job where only 75% of my clients were stupid I'd be in heaven. Currently my customers routinely compete with rocks in the IQ dept.
    - I hate answering phones
    The beauty with phones? You get to use speakerphone and mute. Share their stupidity with your friends.
    - I don't like standing all day. It hurts
    Standing all day sucks less than being hungry all day.
    - My company does a lot of stupid things
    Sounds like all the companies I've worked for/with
    - My co-workers do a lot of stupid things
    Yeah, that's about right.

    Try looking at a job with a big-box retailer like Bestbuy or Circuit city. They should have some kind of computer specialist job that may be a solution to some of your problems, and would atleast let you work using your mind instead of making you dumber. Another job that's actually pretty chill (if you can deal with STUPID customers) is retail sales for a cell phone company. It's easy work, and you can pretty much master it after a month or so. But you do have to deal with the same issues day in and day out.
    Either way, good luck.

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  • brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Hey bro, since your natural talents lie around computers why not pursue a cert or 2. Then get a helpdesk position. In the meantime business should be picking up at your place of employment. They should start giving you more hours. I will help you with the certs. I will also be keeping a lookout at my place of business for you. You know what you need to do, and how to fix the problem. You just have to do it. No one else can do it for you.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Okay,like others have said, really start looking into living within your means. On to your main question;

    I hate to break it to you, but with only a HS diploma, you kinda have slim pickings. Throw in all your prerequisites and there really aren't many jobs that I can think of that you would like. How about right now, you focus on trying to find a job that will allow you to get out of debt, whether you like it or not? Customers are going to be idiots wherever you go, and standing on your feet all day isn't THAT bad. I got used to it after a few months when I worked at Gamestop.

    Right now, at least get another part time job or ask for more hours/raise.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Have you thought about getting a second job? I mean, you're not even working 40 hours, and there are people who work that, and then a second job. Even if it's just McDonalds or something. There's always construction, too, they pay pretty well but it can be hard work. Thought about doing security?

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  • LifeVirusZEROLifeVirusZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Thanks for all the advice. Yeah I know I'm asking for a lot more than I should be expecting. I had to find out the hard way that credit is bad. There's nothing I can do to lower my bills other than paying them off. I dont buy a lot of stuff that I don't need (I already did that, hence, credit card debt), most of my bills are credit payments. I have no need to cut down on expenses because I don't really spend a lot other than paying bills. I need to cut down on not making enough money. (that was a joke) I'm gonna start looking for that new job though. Again, thanks for the advice guys.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Don't know where you're located, but if you're sick of the retail environment, try looking at Dishnetwork or Direct TV or something similar for a position as an Installer.
    Downside, it's a lot of driving, and you do deal with idiots on their home turf.

    On the plus side, you don't spend much time on the phone (scheduling installs mostly) as most of this is set up by the call center chimps. You're not on your feet 8 hours a day, because you're driving to and from installs. While you do interact with idiots, they're idiots who need you to give them TV and are often grateful for that (not always though). It's likely to pay more then part time at Retailer X. You should be able to get in with a high school education, any electronics skills are a bonus.

    It should pay at least 1100 a month if you're working full time. Granted, you're current position would do that if you where working full time as well so...

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  • LifeVirusZEROLifeVirusZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    see317 wrote: »
    Don't know where you're located, but if you're sick of the retail environment, try looking at Dishnetwork or Direct TV or something similar for a position as an Installer.
    Downside, it's a lot of driving, and you do deal with idiots on their home turf.

    On the plus side, you don't spend much time on the phone (scheduling installs mostly) as most of this is set up by the call center chimps. You're not on your feet 8 hours a day, because you're driving to and from installs. While you do interact with idiots, they're idiots who need you to give them TV and are often grateful for that (not always though). It's likely to pay more then part time at Retailer X. You should be able to get in with a high school education, any electronics skills are a bonus.

    It should pay at least 1100 a month if you're working full time. Granted, you're current position would do that if you where working full time as well so...

    Thanks, that's a really good idea.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Thanks for all the advice. Yeah I know I'm asking for a lot more than I should be expecting. I had to find out the hard way that credit is bad. There's nothing I can do to lower my bills other than paying them off. I dont buy a lot of stuff that I don't need (I already did that, hence, credit card debt), most of my bills are credit payments. I have no need to cut down on expenses because I don't really spend a lot other than paying bills. I need to cut down on not making enough money. (that was a joke) I'm gonna start looking for that new job though. Again, thanks for the advice guys.

    This fails to make sense. What kind of bills are you paying for? Without unnecessary expenses I don't see how you can have a deficit of nearly $500/month in terms of cashflow.

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  • LifeVirusZEROLifeVirusZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My car payment is $228, my credit cards total about $300, Gas & electric bill (which I pay half of) is about $200 per month, so thats $100 for me. My phone bill is $70. That's about it. I guess I just factored in a little too much for food and gas or I'm forgetting something. So $700 before food and gas which I already do try to conserve.

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    If your only bills are credit cards, how many credit cards do you have?? A 19-year-old typically can only get about a 1000 dollar credit line, and the minimum payments are usually 25-50 bucks a month. Do you have five cards or something? Find the card with the highest APR on it, and pay that off as soon as fast as you can. Then go to the next highest APR, and so on.
    Also, find a second bs job. Maybe you'll find it pays more, and eventually you can just start working full time at it, but for the mean time work both jobs.

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  • brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    If your only bills are credit cards, how many credit cards do you have?? A 19-year-old typically can only get about a 1000 dollar credit line.

    Our Mom worked as a loan officer and when a good credit card deal came she would always tell us about it. I was scared of credit myself so no matter what temptation was there I had to resist. ZERO's debt was for the most part out of necessity (I don't remember what for). I'm pretty sure that a big chunk of that his bank loan that he has as well. He's not really one for frivolous spending, now anyway...

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  • xThanatoSxxThanatoSx Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My car payment is $228, my credit cards total about $300, Gas & electric bill (which I pay half of) is about $200 per month, so thats $100 for me. My phone bill is $70. That's about it. I guess I just factored in a little too much for food and gas or I'm forgetting something. So $700 before food and gas which I already do try to conserve.


    Phone bill of $70 - I'm assuming that's a cell phone. Assuming that's the case, can you either A) find a cheaper plan or B) cancel it?

    Car payment of $228 - how much is left owing on this? What type of car? Do you really need said car - can you sell it and clear the loan? I'm well aware there are places where you need a car because the transit system is horrible etc.

    As for the job thing - that's been pretty well covered above. No matter what sort of job you get, you're going to be dealing with idiots - fact of working life unfortunately :)

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