Haven't they had job listings for people to work on a "next gen MMO" on their website for ages now? I thought that was one of the main bits of evidence people were using to back up claims of a new MMO announcement at the last blizzard event. Either way we aren't going to know anything about whether they are making one or what it is until Blizzard wants us to judging by how well they concealed Starcraft 2.
Why does everyone always say "OLOL it's gonna be a new IP"?
Shut the fuck up. It's not gonna be a new IP.
Do you even realize how much time and money it takes to create a good profitable IP? Do you really think they would risk making untold amounts of money by creating a new IP and expecting it to sell as well as Diablo 3 or World of Starcrat or Warcraft-whatever-the-fuck-ever? No, whatever IP they made would be so new to the market it would sell shitty by comparison for the first few games until it established some street cred.
Blizzard is a good company but that doesn't mean shit. Companies themselves aren't worth shit when you compare them to the worth of the IPs they produce. That's why companies can sell the fuck out an join EA or whatever company lays down the money but they will never give up their IPs. IPs are more valuable than the companies and assets that make them. It's why Bungie's next game will never sell as well as Halo 4. It's why Starcraft 2 is going to kick so much fucking ass after all the focus Blizzard puts on keeping the IP authentic as hell. It's why "Dwarf Fortress" is the 4th most successful roguelike in history despite the fact that no one knows shit about Bay12 games.
If you don't have a credible source it didn't happen. And someone else saying it happened doesn't mean it happend. That guy could have ate a bowl of shrooms for all you know.
Why does everyone always say "OLOL it's gonna be a new IP"?
Shut the fuck up. It's not gonna be a new IP.
Do you even realize how much time and money it takes to create a good profitable IP? Do you really think they would risk making untold amounts of money by creating a new IP and expecting it to sell as well as Diablo 3 or World of Starcrat or Warcraft-whatever-the-fuck-ever? No, whatever IP they made would be so new to the market it would sell shitty by comparison for the first few games until it established some street cred.
Blizzard is a good company but that doesn't mean shit. Companies themselves aren't worth shit when you compare them to the worth of the IPs they produce. That's why companies can sell the fuck out an join EA or whatever company lays down the money but they will never give up their IPs. IPs are more valuable than the companies and assets that make them. It's why Bungie's next game will never sell as well as Halo 4. It's why Starcraft 2 is going to kick so much fucking ass after all the focus Blizzard puts on keeping the IP authentic as hell. It's why "Dwarf Fortress" is the 4th most successful roguelike in history despite the fact that no one knows shit about Bay12 games.
Get a god damn grip.
Way to fly off the handle there, chief.
And yes, Blizzard has stated that they are working on a new IP. My guess is that they don't want to fuck up the lore from their current IPs like they had to do with Warcraft when WoW was born.
Credible source: One of Blizzard's Execs. I will see if I can dig up the article.
Without crazy "lol, Starcraft II is totally going to be announced soon" speculation, it'll be hard to predict the exact speed in which this thread will turn to shit, so I'm just gonna say 2-3 pages.
Anyway, I hope to god they stick with a new IP for a future MMO. A Starcraft MMO would make me scream. Diablo would be the only thing even approaching acceptable.
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When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WoW - we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground. It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level.
When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WoW - we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground. It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level.
First, the quote is funny....'We're not a company that tends to tread the same ground' But Warcraft 1-3, then MMO, Starcraft 1-2, Diablo 1-2 (possible 3), but they don't like to tread on the same ground?
Also, I think we stretching this comment to mean that it will be a new IP. For instance, Starcraft:Ghost, would have fallen under 'innovative and new' but still is under the Starcraft IP. I don't think he's claiming new IP at all for the next MMORPG.
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When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WoW - we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground. It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level.
First, the quote is funny....'We're not a company that tends to tread the same ground' But Warcraft 1-3, then MMO, Starcraft 1-2, Diablo 1-2 (possible 3), but they don't like to tread on the same ground?
Also, I think we stretching this comment to mean that it will be a new IP. For instance, Starcraft:Ghost, would have fallen under 'innovative and new' but still is under the Starcraft IP. I don't think he's claiming new IP at all for the next MMORPG.
That's a reasonable interpretation, but I don't think a new IP is an unreasonable one. Even Blizzard has to get bored of doing the same 3 games eventually.
It's not going to be a new IP. It'll be either WoW 2 or World of Starcraft. Maybe a Diablo MMO. I really don't think Blizzard has the balls to go for a new IP.
Speculation is a dangerous road. Who knows, they could very well be talking about WoW, and their "next-gen" hyperbole is just semantics.
That's my guess as well, they have a big team at blizzard, but realistically they have their hands full between new WoW content, WoTLK and Starcraft 2. When they begin working on a new MMO it will be the focus of the majority of the company.
Hmmm, their comments sound pretty vague. "Innovative" could just mean reinventing one of their existing franchises, kind of like how WoW was to warcraft.
WoW 2? Don't make me laugh, it wouldn't make business sense (i.e cannibalizing your user base). Probably D3 or StarCraft 2 to coincide with the hype around SC 2.
WoW 2? Don't make me laugh, it wouldn't make business sense (i.e cannibalizing your user base). Probably D3 or StarCraft 2 to coincide with the hype around SC 2.
I should hope Starcraft 2 arrives to coincide with the hype of Starcraft 2. ;-)
You guys have taken that quote from the interview way too far. He's saying that they're not making another WoW. He is not saying that they will tread new ground by making a new IP. Look at what he says:
When we announce our next MMORPG it's not going to be another WoW - we're not a company that tends to tread the same ground. It'll be something innovative and new that really brings entertainment to another level.
He's saying that the type of MMORPG they are gonna make will be new and innovative. I specifically remember another interview (I'll have to find the reference) where a Blizzard exec clearly states that Blizzard is not working on another IP and will not be adding onto their current IP list. They said that they really wanted to focus on what they have built up. It wouldn't make any sense to build up such a psychoticly devoted fanbase, only to have to start anew. In fact, it would make more sense to WoW 2, which just isn't happening.
As for the original link, its true that those listings have been up for ages. If Blizzard is really building a team for a new MMO, it will most likely be for the Diablo series because of the soon-coming-but-even-sooner-to-be-delayed Starcraft 2.
And yeah, what's with the double mention of Starcraft 2?
If they do announce something I doubt it will be a Starcraft MMO, simply because they already announced SC2 so recently (in Blizzard's time continuum it's only been maybe 8-10 seconds since the SC2 announcement).
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I say this though, because if I got hyped for Universe of Starcraft, and it didn't come... I'd... Well, there would be mayhem.
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Their next MMO is going to be a new IP anyhow.
Indeed. I would like to find the quote, but Blizzard has already said their next MMO will be a new IP.
Shut the fuck up. It's not gonna be a new IP.
Do you even realize how much time and money it takes to create a good profitable IP? Do you really think they would risk making untold amounts of money by creating a new IP and expecting it to sell as well as Diablo 3 or World of Starcrat or Warcraft-whatever-the-fuck-ever? No, whatever IP they made would be so new to the market it would sell shitty by comparison for the first few games until it established some street cred.
Blizzard is a good company but that doesn't mean shit. Companies themselves aren't worth shit when you compare them to the worth of the IPs they produce. That's why companies can sell the fuck out an join EA or whatever company lays down the money but they will never give up their IPs. IPs are more valuable than the companies and assets that make them. It's why Bungie's next game will never sell as well as Halo 4. It's why Starcraft 2 is going to kick so much fucking ass after all the focus Blizzard puts on keeping the IP authentic as hell. It's why "Dwarf Fortress" is the 4th most successful roguelike in history despite the fact that no one knows shit about Bay12 games.
Get a god damn grip.
Thank you! I knew I didn't make that up in my head.
Way to fly off the handle there, chief.
And yes, Blizzard has stated that they are working on a new IP. My guess is that they don't want to fuck up the lore from their current IPs like they had to do with Warcraft when WoW was born.
Credible source: One of Blizzard's Execs. I will see if I can dig up the article.
It could be a new IP.
If we use Blizzard's history as a guide though it's more likely a breakoff of the StarCraft or Diablo franchises though.
If someone can produce a quote saying it's a new IP though I'd believe it.
Blizzard is making a new IP, and it will be an MMO.
Anyway, I hope to god they stick with a new IP for a future MMO. A Starcraft MMO would make me scream. Diablo would be the only thing even approaching acceptable.
Excellent advice. Have you considered following it?
As for the new IP thing,
Interview: http://web.archive.org/web/20070124073033/http://www.empireonline.com/interviews_and_events/interview.asp?IID=620
First, the quote is funny....'We're not a company that tends to tread the same ground' But Warcraft 1-3, then MMO, Starcraft 1-2, Diablo 1-2 (possible 3), but they don't like to tread on the same ground?
Also, I think we stretching this comment to mean that it will be a new IP. For instance, Starcraft:Ghost, would have fallen under 'innovative and new' but still is under the Starcraft IP. I don't think he's claiming new IP at all for the next MMORPG.
That's a reasonable interpretation, but I don't think a new IP is an unreasonable one. Even Blizzard has to get bored of doing the same 3 games eventually.
... is an expansion, not a next-generation MMO. If that's what the job listings are for, that's a huge stretch.
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Really, if you needed a new employee to work on your insanely popular MMO game, would you go advertising "Hey guys! WoW is hiring!" Hell no.
I should hope Starcraft 2 arrives to coincide with the hype of Starcraft 2. ;-)
As for the original link, its true that those listings have been up for ages. If Blizzard is really building a team for a new MMO, it will most likely be for the Diablo series because of the soon-coming-but-even-sooner-to-be-delayed Starcraft 2.
And yeah, what's with the double mention of Starcraft 2?
That's precisely why it's so innovative.
The only problem with that is, it'll be 2-2.5 years after, because of delays anyway.
One thing Blizzard isn't, and that's punctual.
Not that I mind.
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