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The Demon's Head Returns or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Resurrection

Bloods EndBloods End Blade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered User regular
edited November 2007 in Graphic Violence
This week kicked off the start of the Bat-event " The Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul".

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so far all we really know is
ra's is back in zombie form by some method not involving the Lazerus pits, he is looking for Nanda Pabat, has seven men of death after him, and it turns out that Bats short time as dad has made damian into a little less of a jackass.

will ra's really come back? Will Damian ever get his happy crime fighting family? Will we ever find out where all those damn ninjas come from?

for all those answers and more, stay tuned*



*all questions may not be answered by staying tuned.

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  • silkypeasilkypea Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wow I think this arc is really interesting so far. Ra Ah Ghul is one of my favorite characters though. I also love Grant Morrison and I'm really pleased with the first issue.

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Awesome first book, looking forward to the whole thing, picking up Robin & Nightwing specifically for this event.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm betting Ra's somehow ends up inside of batman Jr causing all sorts of hijinks!

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm betting Ra's somehow ends up inside of batman Jr causing all sorts of hijinks!

    I hope not. Making Ra's a little boy isn't very intimidating.

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm betting Ra's somehow ends up inside of batman Jr causing all sorts of hijinks!

    Somehow I don't think so:
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    Anyway, really loved the prelude and can't wait for the rest of the crossover.

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  • Chrono PaladinChrono Paladin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Ah, I do love how Batman's battles with Ra's always turns into a sword duel.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Damien's costume from the first part is the best robin costume ever.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If Tim dies I will burn DC to the ground

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    well, if that cover is any indication, he is going to impale himself.

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  • PantheraOncaPantheraOnca Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Is it just me, or does that picture of not-completely there Ras remind anyone else of Wolverine?

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That's exactly what I thought the first time I saw the cover.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    If Tim dies I will burn DC to the ground

    Someone on Newsarama thinks that Dick will die, Tim will become Nightwing, and Damian will be Robin

    It wouldn't make any sense

    But it's completely possible

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I really don't see why there'd ever be a second Nightwing if Dick were to die. Following your mentor's legacy is one thing, but why would Tim want to replace Dick?

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I agree Tim as Nightwing makes absolutley no sense.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    I really don't see why there'd ever be a second Nightwing if Dick were to die. Following your mentor's legacy is one thing, but why would Tim want to replace Dick?

    Especially since Tim is always "I'm not them"

    That's why I said it'd make no sense at all

    but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If they kill Dick Grayson / Nightwing, which is completely plausible as DiDio stated that that was precisely what he wanted to do in Infinite Crisis, I will never buy a DC book again.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Where the hell is all this coming from?

    Tim is Robin post Res o' Ras.

    Dick is Nightwing post Res o' Ras.

    They wont kill or swap any of them. I guarantee it.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I think the only change to the status quo that this event will bring is Ra's back from the dead.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lux wrote: »
    I think the only change to the status quo that this event will bring is Ra's back from the dead.

    Ding!

    That and Damian becomes Robins sidekick.

    Imagine the Teen Titans tryout.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Keith wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    If Tim dies I will burn DC to the ground

    Someone on Newsarama thinks that Dick will die, Tim will become Nightwing, and Damian will be Robin

    It wouldn't make any sense

    But it's completely possible

    According to an often correct rumor-monger over on SA's comic forums, Robin is going to be canceled at the end of Dixon's run and replaced with the new title, "Red Robin", presumably starring Jason Todd. At this point it's just a crazy rumor, but the guy's been right before, and it sounds like something DC would do.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    Munch wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    If Tim dies I will burn DC to the ground

    Someone on Newsarama thinks that Dick will die, Tim will become Nightwing, and Damian will be Robin

    It wouldn't make any sense

    But it's completely possible

    According to an often correct rumor-monger over on SA's comic forums, Robin is going to be canceled at the end of Dixon's run and replaced with the new title, "Red Robin", presumably starring Jason Todd. At this point it's just a crazy rumor, but the guy's been right before, and it sounds like something DC would do.

    Hopefully Dixon stays on for another 100 issues

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nobody would want to read that book.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    I just read through every Robin single in the past week or two and man Dixon had some great stories. But then they got rid of all of his characters after he left (Tim's family, spoiler, etc)

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Does Robin have any villains of his own, besides Dodge? Whenever I look at an issue, the challenges he's facing always seem pretty weak and forgettable and, ultimately, it just feels like you're reading about Batman's sidekick confronting threats that are only small enough for him to handle.

    Which you are, I guess, but that's more or less the first preconception they ought to shatter if they want you to take the title seriously.

    I like the reading about the relationship between Tim and Bruce, though, which gets posted on scans_daily every now and then.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Does Robin have any villains of his own, besides Dodge? Whenever I look at an issue, the challenges he's facing always seem pretty weak and forgettable and, ultimately, it just feels like you're reading about Batman's sidekick confronting threats that are only small enough for him to handle.

    Which you are, I guess, but that's more or less the first preconception they ought to shatter if they want you to take the title seriously.

    I like the reading about the relationship between Tim and Bruce, though, which gets posted on scans_daily every now and then.

    Keep in mind that Tim leads the goddamn Teen Titans up against some major villains, and he doesn't have any powers. So I think they count as his villains.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    None of that counts within the context of his own title, though it's something I considered.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    Does Robin have any villains of his own, besides Dodge? Whenever I look at an issue, the challenges he's facing always seem pretty weak and forgettable and, ultimately, it just feels like you're reading about Batman's sidekick confronting threats that are only small enough for him to handle.

    Which you are, I guess, but that's more or less the first preconception they ought to shatter if they want you to take the title seriously.

    Dodge isn't a villain anymore.

    He's gone up against pretty much all of Batman's villains. I mean, he's fought the Joker solo a few times, so it's not like he's "confronting threats that are only small enough for him to handle."

    As Batman says in an issue of Robin, Tim's smarter than the rest of them. He's not the greatest fighter and he knows it, which is why he relies more on detective work and out-thinking his opponents.

    Dixon's stories were great. Try and pick up "A Hero Reborn", "Joker's Wild" and "Flying Solo"

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Zeromus wrote: »
    If they kill Dick Grayson / Nightwing, which is completely plausible as DiDio stated that that was precisely what he wanted to do in Infinite Crisis, I will never buy a DC book again.


    I said the same thing during IC.



    And all the stuff Dick has done post-IC makes me wish Didio had killed him

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I think Robin's book could just benefit from a stable writer, a well-rounded rogue's gallery, a new hook, and an interesting, ongoing plot to drive the whole thing. Basic stuff. But the book changes hands so often recently it's never really gotten a chance to be anything besides, "Batman's teen sidekick fights crime in a shitty town," and it's lost even more of its appeal now that most of Tim's friends and family are dead. All the usual fun and drama of having a teen crimefighter balancing costumed life with civilian life is gone now since the only person he's really close to is Batman, and it's not like the dude gives a shit if Tim stays out past curfew and flunks his science test because he was stopping Killer Croc.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2007
    I don't think Robin can have a rogues gallery. I mean, there are 500 costume vigilantes in Gotham that none are "for" him. I mean, even Batman's rogues aren't "his" anymore; everyone fights them.

    And I agree with the whole secret identity thing. Batman's his dad now, so he doesn't have to worry. Chuck Dixon said he's going to fix this up right away, though.
    We'll see some old friends again. One will make “Robin” fans happy. The other will knock them out of their chairs. I'm expanding the supporting cast and incorporating them more into the book. They're a big part of what made “Robin” a fun book to read.

    There are a few people that could be returning to make "Robin fans" happy: Ariana Dzerchenko hasn't been seen in a long time; his step-mother Dana is still unaccounted for after Chemo was dropped on Blüdhaven (they never specified if she was rescued in time); plus there's Spoiler on that Gotham Underground cover (although who knows what that means)

    Basically I am fucking ecstatic for Dixon's return on the book. It was such a fun read when he wrote it. It wasn't some "big thing". Even when it was plagued by so many Bat-crossovers it didn't make them out to be big deals. Tim just dealt with them.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oh man I saw the first issue of "Joker's Wild" at Midtown Comics the other day and oh man it had a hologram sticker on the cover and I totally bought that shit.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I love how Damian walks around in that Robin outfit and is an asshole.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Algertman wrote: »
    I love how Damian walks around in that Robin outfit and is an asshole.
    To be absolutely fair, if some strange man covered in bandages suddenly claimed to be my formerly dead father and asked to possess me, I'd probably have a similar reaction.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah did we ever go over exactly how Ra's got back?

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    Yeah did we ever go over exactly how Ra's got back?

    I think it's something we learn in this crossover.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oh ok

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    Oh ok

    Currently all we know is that it was via a method other than using a Lazarus Pit. As I Ching put it -

    "There are other methods of ressurection. I speak now of the survival of the mind beyond the death of the body"

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I thought he possessed that movie star and, because the movie star didn't do something right, his body is now degrading and stuff.

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Didn't it say in the prelude that the movie star got all sour on the deal and to spite ras he injected himself with a ton of radiation, hence the decaying body?

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I love how Damian walks around in that Robin outfit and is an asshole.
    To be absolutely fair, if some strange man covered in bandages suddenly claimed to be my formerly dead father and asked to possess me, I'd probably have a similar reaction.

    :| Are you trying to imply that Ra's impregnated his own daughter...? :|

    Drakeon: Yep, it did.

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