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Something Old; Something New: A Discussion.
mully
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Here's the idea.
This is basically an inspiration thread. What's you do:
Post something old, and something new.
Post the oldest work of yours that you can find, and then find your most recent, in the same medium, and post them together.
I think if we all show where we've come from, we can in turn see where we want to go, and give inspiration to others out there who may think that they won't get any better.
I'll go first:
Oekaki/OpenCanvas:
OLD :
NEW:
I think that the thing I've improved upon the most is learning what colours to use where. I'm still learning that, of course, but man - as you can see - I've certainly got a better grip on it! The other thing I've learned that has helped me a lot is facial structure. I ignore it every so often and my work suffers greatly.
Oh, also? The incredibly large gaudy signature. What.. the hell, 18 year old me.
Your turn!
This is basically an inspiration thread. What's you do:
Post something old, and something new.
Post the oldest work of yours that you can find, and then find your most recent, in the same medium, and post them together.
I think if we all show where we've come from, we can in turn see where we want to go, and give inspiration to others out there who may think that they won't get any better.
I'll go first:
Oekaki/OpenCanvas:
OLD :
NEW:
I think that the thing I've improved upon the most is learning what colours to use where. I'm still learning that, of course, but man - as you can see - I've certainly got a better grip on it! The other thing I've learned that has helped me a lot is facial structure. I ignore it every so often and my work suffers greatly.
Oh, also? The incredibly large gaudy signature. What.. the hell, 18 year old me.
Your turn!
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All of mine are inks colored in photoshop.
2001, my first digitally colored scanned inks. I had just gotten photoshop and remember how pissed of I was that I couldn't get rid of the white halos around my lines. ha!
man, scrolling through those old folders was fun....
...and humbling
awesome way to do it, too - i love how you separated by the year.
you've definitely come a long way! nicely done.
My first thing done in illustrator which was in 2005:
My first done in Photoshop, 2002-2003 (this is actually not my first photoshop work, but looks enough like my actual first stuff to count i guess...)
Current stuff done in Photoshop:
Old pen drawings (2001-2002):
New pen drawings:
and of course, i can never post in an old bad art thread without showing you all what i did in 1997 in MSPaint:
new stuff done in facebook graffiti (mspaint jr) (lol i just realized this is a decade later.)
things i've learned:
sometimes less is more
line width variation is nice!
a lot more about the ins and outs of the software i use. particularly illustrator which as most people who remember me from around this forum will attest to, i friggen loved illustrator. it was my software of choice for the year or so i frequented the pa:ac. that all comes with dicking around with the programs though, and really wanting to figure it out. if you sit down for an intimate evening with illustrator, first he will rape you. really hard, and you'll probably cry. then you sort of start to like it. then all of a sudden you find yourself in control, and you donkey punch adobe. BITCH
pngs > jpgs.
I'm not sure of exactly when I did all these, but I can approximate it. Sorry for not having much in the way of completed pieces either, I wasn't really the type to finish stuff as a youngin', and even now I have a hard time doing it. This is the first page of my oldest sketchbook, done around 2003-'04.
I should have had my hands removed just for this.
From my second sketchbook, still done in '04 at some time.
I don't know what's worse, the drawing or the fact that at I was actually inspired by the Dark Knight Strikes Again.
From my third sketchbook, still done in High School during '04.
At least they're vaguely human-shaped.
From my fourth sketchbook, which I did almost entirely in ballpoint pen, while sitting in my community college classes. This was around 2005 or so.
I actually went through this one a month or two back and redrew a few quick sketches just to see how I'd approach things now. You can see one in the lower left there with Deadpool.
By the time I got to my fifth sketchbook, done during 05' and '06, I was sucking considerably less, but stuff like proportions, line width variation, shading, and perspective were still mostly absent. Most of this is around a year old now. Happy birthday crappy drawings!
In my most recent sketchbook, the first several pages are pretty awful, but by the end of it, I was actually drawing completed stuff, and being much more attentive to dynamic poses, perspective, shading, and proportions.
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(You said the oldest you could find.. Well for everybody's sake I'm drawing the line at 6th grade. Nobody wants to see my NAZI versus US super battle fortress warzone drawings)
These pencils start out circa 2000-ish
A few years later, something from just around the time I joined the PAAC (2003). The soldier one was for one of the old weekly activities we used to do around here, and as you can see the resemblance to tom hanks is immaculate.
I got my Wacom in 2005 and so I started to teach myself how to paint--My experience with painting at this point was basically an ART A survey class in high school, maybe 2 things.
And now finally we have recent stuff that I've done in the last month or so. Where will I be in two more years..
I remember that Tom Hanks thing though, and it makes me sad to see how little I've drawn since that happened and how much you've improved. Let me dig up some stuff though...
Oh fine.
SOMETHING OLD:
(first pictures I ever posted to any forum thinking they contained some artistic value ... and boy was I wrong)
SOMETHING NEW:
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
Oldest stuff I can find is on my DA account.
Nu
so much for improvement.
one time the teacher saw me drawing it, and she threw it away and said she never wants to see me drawing that again
I wish I still had them ;_; I don't know where they went since I did so many
Alright here I go, I will steal pope's photo idea later. Drawings for now.
Digital, early 2004/late 2003:
College and general lack of modivation and discipline are my excuses for not doing a hell of a lot. I've been in life drawing classes the past year and a half to keep me drawing at least every week.
I had to go back 8 years to find stuff that makes my current stuff look awesome.
Here are two from the late 90's. Mind you, i was *starting college* at this point, and everyone was telling me i was the bee's knees, artwise. I shouldn't have listened.
Then here are some from four years ago. Maybe five.
Now, here's pretty much where i'm at now:
Other than the oldest stuff, i don't seem to have evolved much. That's what i get for quitting school. I should also note that i probably *could* find better stuff from any of these eras, i'm just going by what's close at hand...there are drawings stashed everywhere around this joint.
OLD :
(1999/2000)
NEW :
(2005-2007)
link for huge
link for huge (true story, too!)
i can totally understand how people would submit the first photos,
all "simplicity is art"
but man
wow have you improved, good gracious
Environmental work:
OLD
3ds friend code: 2981-6032-4118
I remember I spent hours on this one. This is in my memory the first serious drawing I ever did. It marks the start of it all. Dunno why.
At least I was perceptive at the time on this one.
Not even close to being the most anatomically distorted thing in my starting sketchbook from that year.
NEW: in this thread: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=39310
hahaha
thats an eye opener
i was looking at your thread the other day, too
character I drew in a sketchbook I got round bout '00 and an updated drawing I made two minutes ago
Clearly I've made strides. :roll:
I was thinking a little last night about the ways that one would develop artistic skill in photography and the ways one would in graphical arts and where they overlap. I periodically read the other art threads although I have 0 talent for drawing/painting/design/etc.
In both mediums one needs to learn "anatomy" (in photography I can't rely on the camera to demonstrate an object any better than your anime-first style artist can draw a convincing person). I have to pay attention to whatever my subject is, decide on which visual characteristics best identify it and its nature, then decide on camera angle etc to best highlight those characteristics. If I just shoot a picture of a coke can, then people are all "oh, it's a coke can," but they don't necessarily feel the immediacy of the coke can or its presence. It's not particularly real. Kinda like learning drawing a superhero and putting muscles wherever one damn well pleases. There's no sense of reality, no presence to the character. But if one studies anatomy and puts the right muscles in the proper places: voila! Now the character starts to come alive.
Background. I often see people discussing the use of shoddy backgrounds in paintings or drawings and how that can distract the viewer. This is very true in photography.
Color palette. Hopefully this is as obvious as the background topic: it's vital in both mediums.
Composition. Same thing. Where the subject is located in the frame, camera angle, negative/positive space, etc. These are all important in both.
I bet there's more, but this is what occurred to me. So it's been pretty educational for me to see what all you graphical artists are advising each other on, and then to try to think about how that might apply in a photo. And I totally still have a long way to go ...
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
I'm blushing at "you good" because I still don't rank myself in that category. That's just my aspiration. But let's just leave it at that, as I don't want this to turn into an ego thing. I am happy to say I have improved, and I hope that if we do a thread like this a year from now I'll be able to post something that is equally improved over my current work.
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
First Time in Photoshop 2005
Photoshop 2007
First Time in Illustrator 2005
Illustrator 2006
Pencils 2004
Pencils 2005/06
Inks 2005
Inks 2006
Steam handle: Buckwolfe
I am in awe of all the art in this thread. So far every poster has impressed me.
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
Most spoilered for bigness (a couple are HUGE).
1998, Pen/Marker
1999, Pen
2001, LOTS of pen (Rapidiograph and others...)
Following are from school... so like 2002-03? Just a couple of my favorites.
Charcoal, arcrylic, and coffe grounds (!)
Conte crayon
AND MORE RECENTLY (2006-present)
Monkeys! Pen + digital (pre-Wacom)
Inquisitor (yeah... still WIP, first work with the Wacom)
Show poster, Ink
Okay, tired of linking.
Its good to actually see a difference in what I have done,
use of different media, in end kinda looks all the same lol...
Its also good to see development in a series so there are 3 pictures in the later work.
Works of 1999-02
Pencil (NZ band drawing)
Pencil (Artist Impersonation)
Arcylic Paint (End of school art board work)
Pencil (Comic Chara)
Now at university I mostly did time based media,
so I have a few years of design work that isnt print based.
I have done honours which I focused more on print based methods so...
Works of 2006-07
India Ink on paint (Musicians)
Dry point etching (Musicians)
Pencil (Musicians)
Watercolour Pencil (Design Camp People)
Screen Print (Rock Concert)
Oil Paint (Oil painting test)
He's one of my favorites.
I just keep thinking about a B-17 crewed completely by monkeys and start giggling.
these are all open canvas and aside from the first, I chose all that were in my line-less style
Pearl: 4983 1417 9380 - Armaina
This thread is most excellent, it gives me hope that I can still Improve ;_;
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So, there. I could probably be a lot better by now if I got my priorities straight and practiced more