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Dollhouse: Joss Whedon + Fox = BFF?

MKRMKR Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php
Joss Whedon, the creator of acclaimed cult favorites “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” “Angel” and “Firefly,” is returning to Fox and reuniting with “Buffy” regular Eliza Dushku for a new action-drama called “Dollhouse.”

Fox has given a seven-episode commitment to the 20th Century Fox Television project for a planned debut next year.

“It deals with our darkest impulses and our best ones,” Whedon says. “It deals with all the things I like to deal with—strength, weakness, power and corruption.”

“Dollhouse” stars Dushku as Echo, one of a group of secret agents living in a futuristic dorm. Each has the ability to be imprinted with custom personalities and abilities for special assignments. When they return, their newly acquired memories are wiped. The show follows Echo as she takes on a variety of assignments—some romantic, some adventurous, some uplifting, some illegal—and gains awareness of her role and confinement.

I'm really looking forward to this, even though I know Fox will kill it within two seasons.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Action-drama eh?

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited November 2007
    Joss Whedon + "empowered" kung-fu women = me totally not shocked at all.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Reminds me a bit of that scene in Neuromancer where Molly gets some extra cash by renting out her body.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So fox is going to give this seven episodes before they cancel it?

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So fox is going to give this seven episodes before they cancel it?

    Aired out of order.

    I'm intrigued, but I'm a whore for Joss Whedon.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Why doesn't Joss Whedon go ahead and have that sex change already?

    P.S I love you Joss.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I thought he said he was never gonna work with Fox again?

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote:
    I'm really looking forward to this, even though I know Fox will kill it within two seasons.

    That's a very generous estimate.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote:
    I'm really looking forward to this, even though I know Fox will kill it within two seasons.

    That's a very generous estimate.

    "...within..."

    :P

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    This sounds awesome but is almost certainly doomed to failure

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.
    Man how hard can angel season 6 be to right it could just be this
    "They're all dead"
    the end

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Joss should just start writing this show for Showtime, so Eliza can just be a lesbian porn star junkie in every episode.
    Neaden wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.
    Man how hard can angel season 6 be to right it could just be this
    "They're all dead"
    the end

    I hear it turned out that the dragon was a good guy.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    Joss' run on Runaways is just about over and his final script is probably already submitted. Joss wrote the first 5 issues of Buffy season 8 and won't be penning another issue for awhile (although he is still involved). And I don't think he's writing any of the Angel issues.

    So he's got time.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    Joss' run on Runaways is just about over and his final script is probably already submitted. Joss wrote the first 5 issues of Buffy season 8 and won't be penning another issue for awhile (although he is still involved). And I don't think he's writing any of the Angel issues.

    So he's got time.


    Oh.

    Well then, yay Dollhouse.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    I thought Whedon said he'd never deal with Fox again, after what they pulled with Firefly. Guh?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    I know he was intimately involved in the process, but he only wrote a fraction of the Buffy episodes and directed even less. I think even Marti Noxon directed/wrote more than he did. I'm not saying Buffy wasn't his thing, just that a series creator is rarely so locked down that he can't do that and write a few comics on the side.

    Out of the seven episodes I bet he writes and directs about four.

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  • duraxdurax Who watches the watchdogs? Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I have liked everything Whedon has created so far...
    (and I kind of hate myself for it....)

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    I know he was intimately involved in the process, but he only wrote a fraction of the Buffy episodes and directed even less. I think even Marti Noxon directed/wrote more than he did. I'm not saying Buffy wasn't his thing, just that a series creator is rarely so locked down that he can't do that and write a few comics on the side.

    Out of the seven episodes I bet he writes and directs about four.

    Joss always wrote the big ones though, and his involvement shrank in the later seasons mainly because of the amount of stuff on his plate. Noxon was actually credited as showrunner during season 6 because Joss was so busy getting Firefly started.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Its almost like he tried to come up with the most Whedonish idea he could. I guess that is his job, after all.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    I know he was intimately involved in the process, but he only wrote a fraction of the Buffy episodes and directed even less. I think even Marti Noxon directed/wrote more than he did. I'm not saying Buffy wasn't his thing, just that a series creator is rarely so locked down that he can't do that and write a few comics on the side.

    Out of the seven episodes I bet he writes and directs about four.

    Joss always wrote the big ones though, and his involvement shrank in the later seasons mainly because of the amount of stuff on his plate. Noxon was actually credited as showrunner during season 6 because Joss was so busy getting Firefly started.

    So that's the fucker to blame.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    I wonder if he really has enough time to do this.

    He's already writing Buffy season 8, Runaways, and is supposed to be starting an Angel season six series soon.

    I know he was intimately involved in the process, but he only wrote a fraction of the Buffy episodes and directed even less. I think even Marti Noxon directed/wrote more than he did. I'm not saying Buffy wasn't his thing, just that a series creator is rarely so locked down that he can't do that and write a few comics on the side.

    Out of the seven episodes I bet he writes and directs about four.

    Joss always wrote the big ones though, and his involvement shrank in the later seasons mainly because of the amount of stuff on his plate. Noxon was actually credited as showrunner during season 6 because Joss was so busy getting Firefly started.

    So that's the fucker to blame.

    She's a women.

    And yes.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Women can be fuckers too.

    Having recently rewatched season six, I had forgotten how truly fucking horrendous it was.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Season 6 can only be loved by the die hards.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Was season six the "ZOMG magic addiction" part?

    Because that was awful.

    Although I liked everything after Tara got shot.

    And the gambling with kittens.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I loved the way a gun completely breaks the shows whole internal logic.

    Its like she can fight a giant worm monster, drown and survive, fight like 8 vampires at once, use badass magic to counter a minigun, generally kill anything and then its all like "ZOMG JAMIES GOT A GUN"

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    At least season seven was a step up, right?

    Right? Yes?

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    At least season seven was a step up, right?

    Right? Yes?

    I actually preferred six to seven, or at least the latter half of seven. Too much of seven's latter half was "Buffy gives depressing speech, two dozen extras do fight scene, First taunts Buffy, minor event happens, episode ends." I think Marti admitted that six was a lot to do with her working her own crap out through the show, which often didn't work. On the other hand, musical episode!

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The bit where Willow crashes the car because of lolmagidrugs was cringe-inducing.

    I mean, WE GET IT ALREADY. They are supposed to be in goddamn university, so why does this scene make me think "naughty teens first night on the booze stealing moms car".

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If this is like Firefly, then I'll watch it.

    If it's like Buffy or Angel, then fuck that noise.

    I still have no idea why he'd go back to Fox though.

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I believe he still is under contract to Fox where they get first rights to any series ideas he comes up with.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Season 6 had some great individual eps. But the arc was weak and the magic addiction storyline was such garbage.

    OMWF saves the season though.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    If this is like Firefly, then I'll watch it.

    If it's like Buffy or Angel, then fuck that noise.

    I still have no idea why he'd go back to Fox though.

    Angel was, throughout, miles better than Buffy most of the time. I mean... everyone was at least marginally a grownup, compared to Buffy, where everyone was trying to grow up, and failing miserably. I mean, WeddingXander? Really? Fuck you.

    Firefly was, of course, better than both, and Serenity proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Oh, how I hate Fox.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I disagree that Angel on a whole was better than Buffy.

    But again, yes, season 6 fucked Xander and Willow's characters up pretty good.

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  • JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Season 6 had some great individual eps. But the arc was weak and the magic addiction storyline was such garbage.

    OMWF saves the season though.

    Definately agree with this. The episode right after where they all lost their memories was a pretty great one also.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I disagree that Angel on a whole was better than Buffy.

    But again, yes, season 6 fucked Xander and Willow's characters up pretty good.

    Bored now.

    Anyway, I'm going to throw my weight on the pile of Buffy having the best individual episodes ("Hush," "Once More With Feeling," the memory loss one(s?), etc), but that Angel had better consistancy and was overall more introspective and interesting. The last seasons of Buffy inevitably got a little too deep into navel-grazing, and Angel ended before that could start happening.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I think I prefer Buffy overall of the three, partially because I like the usual Jossian anachronism (blond "victim" killing vampires,) over that cowboys in space or awkward vampire detection ones. Also, I like the more established seasonal story arcs Buffy had.

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  • JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    If Firefly had gone on for longer i think it would have surpsassed Buffy in quality. And i haven't finished Angel yet (in S4 right now) so i can't really comment on that yet. So far so good though.

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  • duraxdurax Who watches the watchdogs? Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oh man, I will always respect the continuity in season 4 of angel.
    Without spoiling anything, that whole season is supposed to take place over the time frame of about 2 and half months.
    Although this damages its repeat viewing value, the plot acceleration is palpable.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    Season 6 can only be loved by the die hards.

    Season six largely sucked, but it also had some of the best episodes. Once More With Feeling and the one where Buffy thinks she's in an asylum are two of my favorites.

    It's like all of the awesome for that season got sucked into a small handful of episodes, and there was no awesome left for the rest.

    Also: Yay, another Whedon series. I desperately hope that it survives longer than Firefly. I just rewatched that again, and after the last episode there was this cold emptiness in my soul.

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