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I've been taking Swedish at Ohio State for the past month and a half. The teacher SUCKS and in fact she teaches the whole sequence of 101-102-103-104 which I just realized about a week ago. I don't want to take 3 more classes with her as she's such a poor teacher....theres also no tutors available since the department is so small. I'll take spanish 2 quarters from now and get a tutor with that.
The problem is, the deadline to drop was 3 days ago. I'm a junior, double majoring in poli sci and economics. I have 120 credits so far. I did really well last quarter, got 4 A's....it just seems like a joke that since some deadline passed a few days ago now i have to get a 0.0 for the course. I'm getting pretty down over this cuz my parents are paying the out of state tuition and now I will get an F and my GPA will drop a lot.
Is this something I should be worried about or should I just forget about it and move on ?
Can't you tough it out for the rest of the term and then just not enroll in the rest of the series? Dealing with a crappy teacher for a few more weeks can't be that bad.
Alternatively, I know my school gave us one any time before finals, no questions asked withdrawal from a class during our time there. Maybe yours has something similar.
The thing is i havent gotten anything higher on a midterm/quiz than a 72% which is a 2.0 on the GPA scale....the last 4 pop quizzes i took have been HORRIBLE: 20/30, 4/11 and 5/12........I can get 2 A's and a B+ in my other classes though and I have taken a bunch of courses in my career at this college, never gotten lower than a B-
Just work for the C-, I would say. Barring that, you should ask the professor rather politely to drop you. If you explain you're having some personal problem (which might be a small lie, depending on how you look at it) she might just write you a drop note to the registrar.
A couple of Cs aren't worth worrying about, especially out of your major. With 120 credit hours(probably more than 200 before you're done)3 or 4 of them being a 2.0 will affect like hundreths of a point on your GPA, maybe a tenth
Talk to your academic adviser about it. Usually you can go to the registrar's office and get a form with a name along the lines of "Petition for exception to academic regulations." Ask to drop the course without penalty and just say that you made a simple mistake and forgot about the deadline. Fill it out and hand it in ASAP. While you're waiting to hear a decision, keep going to class and try to get as good a grade as you can, in case they decide not to let you drop it.
Does your school have a pass/no pass type of grading system? I know at the college I went to, you could change the grading type from letter grade to pass/no pass if the course wasn't part of your requirements. The deadline to change grade options was usually after the drop deadline for us.
Does your Uni not have a drop pass sort of deal? Our University had a "DP" option that would get you out of the class, and not count it towards your GPA, however it would say DP on your transcript.
All the appointements with advisors are booked for the next week.
I sent my advisor from freshman year a message about it and heres what he emailed me back:
I cannot drop you from your Swedish class anymore. The deadline to drop was Nov. 2nd. You either keep going and try to pass it or stop going and take the failing grade that comes with that decision.
Retake the class next semester with a different teacher? Don't most places replace the original grade in such a scenario?
It depends what you consider "replacing". The original failing grade would stay on the transcript, it just wouldn't be used in the school's calculation of GPA.
Many people are surprised to hear that schools are not the only ones who compute GPA, however. Many graduate and professional programs--including all accredited law schools--use their own computation methods, which would include both the failing grade and the grade from the second attempt...even if that grade is also a failing one.
Other entities might also retain the original failing grade, such as certain federal and private financial aid providers.
Retake the class next semester with a different teacher? Don't most places replace the original grade in such a scenario?
It depends what you consider "replacing". The original failing grade would stay on the transcript, it just wouldn't be used in the school's calculation of GPA.
Actually this depends on the school. In my university both grades are taken into account when calculating the overall GPA. The higher grade is important only if you're trying to fulfill a certain requirement (prereq for a more advanced class, being admitted to a program, etc.).
OP, my suggestion would be to try as hard as you can. Don't settle for a 0.0 simply because the teacher sucks.
OP, my suggestion would be to try as hard as you can. Don't settle for a 0.0 simply because the teacher sucks.
This. There's no reason to let yourself fail, especially in something as structured as a language class. If you have access to the course content and the library, and particularly some A/V material of spoken Swedish, you should be almost able to teach yourself. There's always going to be one or two dud courses like this in any institution; take it as a test of how you'll handle the far higher frequency of idiots out in the working world. Uni is about teaching yourself to learn anyway, its not like high school. You have to make the effort.
Can you audit the class? Its not really dropping it but you wont get a grade for it but you have to do like the majority of the work but if you screw it up you won't fail the class.
At my college the date to audit was longer then the date to drop a class, just a suggestion.
Do you know if the grade is curved? It's possible that everybody else in the class is doing as badly as you are and you'll actually get a decent grade.
It depends what you consider "replacing". The original failing grade would stay on the transcript, it just wouldn't be used in the school's calculation of GPA.
Many people are surprised to hear that schools are not the only ones who compute GPA, however. Many graduate and professional programs--including all accredited law schools--use their own computation methods, which would include both the failing grade and the grade from the second attempt...even if that grade is also a failing one.
Other entities might also retain the original failing grade, such as certain federal and private financial aid providers.
just to correct this, at OSU we do not replace, and the 'E' grade would be counted in your GPA.
also, Nov. 2nd was the last day to drop or withdraw from a course without petitioning. There's a chance you could still be allowed to withdraw via petition. But if you can get permission from the dept to audit the course, that is a much safer route
Withdrawing via petition is usually reserved for severe illnesses or emergency situations. I seriously doubt he can be like "because the teacher sucks" when they ask him why he is petitioning.
Just don't forget to fill out any feedback forms they give out on teaching quality. The uni will never fix the problem if they don't get a bunch of people pissed off and cussing at them.
well you dont have to have an F unless you put in zero effort. Just try to make the most of it even if the teacher is sucky and try not to get an F. If you try your best and still get an F at lest you know you tried
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Alternatively, I know my school gave us one any time before finals, no questions asked withdrawal from a class during our time there. Maybe yours has something similar.
Just work for the C-, I would say. Barring that, you should ask the professor rather politely to drop you. If you explain you're having some personal problem (which might be a small lie, depending on how you look at it) she might just write you a drop note to the registrar.
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C/D vs DP - I'd choose DP.
I sent my advisor from freshman year a message about it and heres what he emailed me back:
I cannot drop you from your Swedish class anymore. The deadline to drop was Nov. 2nd. You either keep going and try to pass it or stop going and take the failing grade that comes with that decision.
Sorry.
bah.
Many people are surprised to hear that schools are not the only ones who compute GPA, however. Many graduate and professional programs--including all accredited law schools--use their own computation methods, which would include both the failing grade and the grade from the second attempt...even if that grade is also a failing one.
Other entities might also retain the original failing grade, such as certain federal and private financial aid providers.
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Actually this depends on the school. In my university both grades are taken into account when calculating the overall GPA. The higher grade is important only if you're trying to fulfill a certain requirement (prereq for a more advanced class, being admitted to a program, etc.).
OP, my suggestion would be to try as hard as you can. Don't settle for a 0.0 simply because the teacher sucks.
This. There's no reason to let yourself fail, especially in something as structured as a language class. If you have access to the course content and the library, and particularly some A/V material of spoken Swedish, you should be almost able to teach yourself. There's always going to be one or two dud courses like this in any institution; take it as a test of how you'll handle the far higher frequency of idiots out in the working world. Uni is about teaching yourself to learn anyway, its not like high school. You have to make the effort.
At my college the date to audit was longer then the date to drop a class, just a suggestion.
Turns out I can get a 60% on the next paper, and as long as I get a 80% on the final I'll be out with a C.
Just tough it out.
FUCK YEAH :P
just to correct this, at OSU we do not replace, and the 'E' grade would be counted in your GPA.
also, Nov. 2nd was the last day to drop or withdraw from a course without petitioning. There's a chance you could still be allowed to withdraw via petition. But if you can get permission from the dept to audit the course, that is a much safer route