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WiiFit: Why Spend $3.19 On A Hula Hoop When You Can Get Wii Fit For $89? - OUT TODAY

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    Don't worry, count on Neva to surprise you again.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    Didn't the guy who did nothing but add WiiSports to his daily routine lose some weight?

    But really, I think you need to look at this having a similar benefit that those "Get up and moving Seniors!" programs have - much more about flexibility and just general blood flow type stuff. This has an impact, certainly not one measurable to those that think "fitness == hitting the gym"

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  • MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.
    You act like Wii Fit has invented all the exercises in the game and no one has any experience or knowlegde about them. Or maybe the BB changes the exericises in such a drastic way that they cannot be compared to their BBless counterparts.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    Didn't the guy who did nothing but add WiiSports to his daily routine lose some weight?

    But really, I think you need to look at this having a similar benefit that those "Get up and moving Seniors!" programs have - much more about flexibility and just general blood flow type stuff. This has an impact, certainly not one measurable to those that think "fitness == hitting the gym"

    Yes, a guy did. He lost a few pounds, felt more energetic, and lost a noticeable amount of body fat. He wasn't super buff and toned or anything though. Which, was my point on the previous page. It will increase your overall fitness level and cause you to lose some weight especially if it's weight that needs to be lost. You won't become ultra fit with 6 pack everything. But I don't think that's what people are caring about. They just want to be a little healthier and have some fun! They want to do exercise that doesn't feel like exercise.

    I tell you what, I played Wii Boxing for hours on end standing and doing all the motions. Especially doing the punching bag bit really takes a lot of effort. Not enough to notice at first but enough so that after an hour or so you definitely feel it. Your heart rate picks up (important), your breathing rate increases (also important), and I've even sweat before (which doesn't happen usually unless I'm running or it's really frickin hot out). If you do that math, 120 calories for 15 minutes (which is the approximate rate at which playing Wii Boxing burns calories) means 480 calories an hour. 2 hours of Wii Boxing and you've burned nearly 1000 calories (960 to be exact) which is half of the recommended daily intake. Wii Fit focuses on more muscle groups, has core workouts, and has more to it to make it playable for longer periods of time.

    If you only play for that 15 minutes a day it won't do anything. If you play for a half hour every day you may notice some difference but mostly in muscular flexibility, but if you play it for an hour or more every day you'll notice the difference over time.


    See how I did that? I used math.

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  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Neva wrote: »
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.

    That doesn't exactly work with people that actually know what moving is like. So yeah, there are a few people that are prepared to pass such judgments.

    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    You either don't understand how exercising works, or you think WiiFit uses magic.

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  • MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Mblackwell wrote: »
    See how I did that? I used math.
    Math that completely ignores the fact that different people burn calories at different rates depending on several factors. It also ignores calorie intake, unless you were suggesting 2000 calories across the board, which is silly. Also, buring 1000 cal and taking in 2000 is pretty unhealthy. I cannot think of a better way to jump start the catobolic process and make your body put a death grip on every fat cell in your body.

    I agree with Miyamato's vision. This looks like a fun way to get the family fitness oriented and is a great supplement to regular exercise and proper nutrition.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I used what are called averages and "recommended" or "suggested" amounts. 2000 calories is the recommended daily intake. Some people should consume more or less depending on their lifestyle but that's the average. Also on average that's the calorie consumption of playing that particular Wii Sports game. It's quite possible to burn a little more or a little less. Hell it's possible to sit on the couch half asleep barely flicking your wrists and burn 0 (actually probably more like 5 or 10 calories), but then again I wasn't talking about playing the game like that.

    I'm also not completely sure you understand how the body loses weight and how many calories are burned doing what. Here's a quick break down for you:

    http://www.weightlossmd.com/fat_calorie_burning_chart.asp


    Edit: I should also point out that almost all nutritional and weight loss information out there assumes a 2000 calorie diet.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The whole premise with Wii Fit is that something mundane, like simple exercise, can be made more enjoyable if you make a game of it, or have something in front of you to distract you (like why some gyms put TVs in front of the bikes).
    It works. No, you won't get tanked, but it's certainly a step up from what a lot of people do daily.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.

    That doesn't exactly work with people that actually know what moving is like. So yeah, there are a few people that are prepared to pass such judgments.

    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    You either don't understand how exercising works, or you think WiiFit uses magic.

    And you apparently think exercising doesn't help you to lose weight.

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  • BrinkmanBrinkman Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Outstanding.. Nintendo really rocks.. why they cant include a recharable battery like a cell phone or something.. i hate dealing with individual batteries

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  • MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Mblackwell wrote: »
    I'm also not completely sure you understand how the body loses weight and how many calories are burned doing what. Here's a quick break down for you:

    http://www.weightlossmd.com/fat_calorie_burning_chart.asp
    I appreciate the concern, but I think I'll stick to this for my calorie calculating.
    Step #1: Resting Metabolic Rate

    Resting metabolic rate (RMR) is the energy it costs the body to basically keep alive. This doesn't include the costs of getting your butt out of bed and moving around; those numbers are calculated in later. Although you might not guess it, about 50 to 70 percent of your entire day's calorie expenditure is a result of the RMR. So, let's figure out your RMR right now.

    Determining RMR:

    To start off with, you need to take your body weight in pounds and convert it to kilograms. (International readers, please bear with us silly non-metric Americans for a moment.) This is a simple conversion. Just divide your body weight by 2.2.

    Next you take your percent of fat and multiply it by your body weight (which is now in kilograms). This will give you your fat mass (FM) in kilograms. Next simply subtract this number from your total weight in kilograms and you'll have your fat free mass (FFM) in kilograms.

    Before we go on, why don't we try this out on me. Since I'm an athlete with a body weight of 200lbs at 5% body fat, I'd take my total body mass and divide it by 2.2:

    Total body mass in kilograms = 200lbs / 2.2 = 91 kg

    Next I'd multiply this kilogram number (91 kg) by my percent of body fat. Remember, percents are really decimals so 5% equals 0.05, 12% bodyfat will be .12 etc.

    Fat Mass = 91kg x 0.05 = 4.55kg FM

    Next I subtract this fat mass number (4.55 kg) from my total body mass (91kg):

    Fat Free Mass = 91kg - 4.55kg = 86.45kg

    Therefore my fat free mass is 86.45 kilograms. From that I can determine my RMR. The formula for RMR is as follows:

    Resting Metabolic Rate for Athletes (in calories per day) = 500 + 22 x fat free mass (in kilograms).

    Again, for me, I'd multiply 22 times my fat free mass and add 500 to that number as shown below:

    RMR= 22 x 86.45 + 500 = 2402

    Therefore my resting metabolic rate is about 2400 calories per day. Everyone have their RMR figured out? Good, let's move on.

    Step #2: Cost of Activity

    The Cost of Activity represents how many calories are required to move your butt around during the day. This includes the cost of walking out to your car, scraping the ice off the damn thing, driving to work, pinching the secretary's ass, going to lunch with the boys, and of course, training after work. These factors make up about 20 to 40% of your daily caloric intake based on your activity level. So let's figure out your costs of activity. I'll use myself as an example again.

    Determining Activity Costs:

    Cost of Daily Activity is equal to the RMR you calculated above multiplied by an activity factor that fits your daily routine. I've listed some common activity factors below.

    Activity Factors:

    1.2-1.3 for Very Light (bed rest)
    1.5-1.6 for Light (office work/watching TV)
    1.6-1.7 for Moderate (some activity during day)
    1.9-2.1 for Heavy (labor type work)


    Note: Don't consider your daily workout when choosing a number. We'll do that later.

    With this information we can get back to determining my calorie needs. Since I work at a university, most of my day is pretty sedentary. Even though I run back and forth between the lab and classes, I've selected 1.6 as my activity factor. Therefore the amount of calories it takes to breathe and move around during the day is about 3800 calories as shown below:

    RMR x Activity Factor = 2400 calories x 1.6 = 3800 calories

    Costs of Exercise Activity:

    Next, we need to determine how many calories your exercise activity burns so that we can factor this into the totals. Exercise activity can be calculated simply by multiplying your total body mass in kilograms (as calculated above) by the duration of your exercise (in hours). Then you'd multiply that number by the MET value of exercise as listed below. (MET or metabolic equivalent, is simply a way of expressing the rate of energy expenditure from a given physical activity.)

    MET values for common activities:

    high impact aerobics... 7
    low impact aerobics... 5
    high intensity cycling... 12
    low intensity cycling... 3
    high intensity walking - 6.5
    low intensity walking - 2.5
    high intensity running... 18
    low intensity running... 7
    circuit-type training... 8
    intense free weight lifting... 6
    moderate machine training... 3

    So here's the formula:

    Cost of Exercise Activity = Body Mass (in kg) x Duration (in hours) x MET value

    And here's how I calculate it for myself:

    Exercise Expenditure for weights = 6 METS X 91kg x 1.5 hours = 819 calories
    Exercise Expenditure for cardio = 3 METS X 91 kg x .5 hours = 137 calories

    Add these two together and I burn 956 total calories during one of my training sessions.

    Since my training includes about 90 minutes of intense free weight training and 30 minutes of low intensity bicycling (four times per week), my exercise energy expenditure might be as high as 1000 calories per training day!
    The next step is to add this exercise number to the number you generated when multiplying your RMR by your activity factor (3800 calories per day in my case).

    So 3800 calories + about 1000 calories = a whopping 4800 calories per day! And we're not done yet! (Note: I rounded 956 up to 1000 for the sake of simplicity. If you're a thin guy trying to gain muscle, it's better to round up anyway than to round down.)

    Step #3: Thermic Effect of Food

    TEF is the amount of calories that it takes your body to digest, absorb, and metabolize your ingested food intake. This makes up about 5 to 15% of your total daily calorie expenditure. Since the metabolic rate is elevated via this mechanism 10 to 15% for one to four hours after a meal, the more meals you eat per day, the faster your metabolic rate will be. This is a good thing, though. It's far better to keep the metabolism high and eat above that level, than to allow the metabolism to slow down by eating infrequently. Protein tends to increase TEF to a rate double that of carbs and almost triple that of fats so that's one of the reasons why I'm a big fan of protein meals.

    Determining the Thermic Effect of Food:

    To determine the TEF, you need to multiply your original RMR value (2400 in my case) by 0.10 for a moderate protein diet or 0.15 for a high protein diet. So this is what the formula looks like:

    TEF = RMR x 0.10 for moderate protein diet (1 gram per pound of bodyweight)
    TEF = RMR x 0.15 for high protein diet (more than 1 gram per pound of bodyweight)

    Since I eat a very high protein diet (about 350 to 400 grams per day), I use the 0.15 factor and my TEF is about 360 calories per day as displayed by the calculation below:

    Thermic Effect of Food = 2400 calories x 0.15 = 360 calories per day

    Now add that to your calorie total.

    Step #5: Putting it all together

    Okay, so how many damn calories do you need to consume each and every day? Well, adding up RMR plus activity factor (3800 calories in my case), cost of weight training (819 calories), cost of cardio (137 calories), and TEF (360 calories), we get a grand total of about 5116 calories! (Remember, that's just my total. You'll get a different number.)

    Now that's a lot of food! And I must eat this each and every day when I want to gain weight. Are you surprised at how many calories I need? Most people are. So the next time you complain that you're "eating all day and can't gain a pound" you'd better realistically evaluate how much you're really eating. If you're not gaining a pound, then you're falling short on calories
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  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.

    That doesn't exactly work with people that actually know what moving is like. So yeah, there are a few people that are prepared to pass such judgments.

    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    You either don't understand how exercising works, or you think WiiFit uses magic.

    And you apparently think exercising doesn't help you to lose weight.

    No, what I said dipshit is that if you're 300+ pounds, you shouldn't be buying WiiFit in the first place. It went with the whole 300+ pound board being made for America.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Just you wait, Miyamoto's going to lock himself away with this game for a month and some out like Bruce Lee on steroids. Then he'll go to New York and kidnap a girl named Pauline.
    It's all falling into place.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.

    That doesn't exactly work with people that actually know what moving is like. So yeah, there are a few people that are prepared to pass such judgments.

    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    You either don't understand how exercising works, or you think WiiFit uses magic.

    And you apparently think exercising doesn't help you to lose weight.

    No, what I said dipshit is that if you're 300+ pounds, you shouldn't be buying WiiFit in the first place. It went with the whole 300+ pound board being made for America.

    Whoah, I hate to step into this little spat but apparently you're quoting someone and responding to something entirely different as you just stated.

    And now that you went ahead and said that if you're 300lbs you shouldn't buy Wii Fit.

    I think you're going to have to come up with some kind of justification if you want people to listen to anything you have to say. And you should probably do that before you unjustifiably call them a dipshit.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    No one's actually complaining about the game, I'm sure it's awesome and I'd definitely get it if I had the cash to spare, but it's going to have the same effect on your fitness that guitar hero has on your musicianship. It's a game. Nothing more.

    That's a pretty unfair assessment. No one here is prepared to pass such judgments with any credibility, given that none of you have so much as even played the game, much less played it long enough to say definitively that it does not effect your fitness.

    Logic. Yeah, I know.

    That doesn't exactly work with people that actually know what moving is like. So yeah, there are a few people that are prepared to pass such judgments.

    That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Congratulations.

    You either don't understand how exercising works, or you think WiiFit uses magic.

    And you apparently think exercising doesn't help you to lose weight.

    No, what I said dipshit is that if you're 300+ pounds, you shouldn't be buying WiiFit in the first place. It went with the whole 300+ pound board being made for America.

    So, wait.

    The games that I am allowed to buy are dictated by my weight?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    yes, that's exactly what he meant. idiot.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    yes, that's exactly what he meant. idiot.

    I can't quite see anything else that he could have meant.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    he's probably anti-semitic too, you should get him for that.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    he said "people who are 300+ pounds shouldn't buy WiiFIT."

    Please to tell me how else to take that?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    You said "The games that I am allowed to buy are dictated by my weight?", implying that he meant games other than wiifit. This is called a straw man argument, because it implies that he is talking about all games, in some kind of hideous "no fat people" games selling agenda. He's not. He's saying that you shouldn't buy wiifit because your enormous fat lazy arse will break the fucking thing, and not because of your height, or your bone density, because you are enormously fat, like a comfort eating orca. Also stupid.

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Evander wrote: »
    he said "people who are 300+ pounds shouldn't buy WiiFIT."

    Please to tell me how else to take that?

    It's Neva.

    ...:|

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You said "The games that I am allowed to buy are dictated by my weight?", implying that he meant games other than wiifit. This is called a straw man argument, because it implies that he is talking about all games, in some kind of hideous "no fat people" games selling agenda. He's not. He's saying that you shouldn't buy wiifit because your enormous fat lazy arse will break the fucking thing, and not because of your height, or your bone density, because you are enormously fat, like a comfort eating orca. Also stupid.

    except, with the better board, it can hold more weight.

    but he is saying that heavier gamers should NOT be accomodated, litterally saying that, yes, whether or not they can play this particular game SHOULD be dictated by their weight, and companies SHOULD NOT accomodate them.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    The companies shouldn't accomodate fat people. No one should. They should be tracked down, shot, and fed to the homeless for the good of the gene pool.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Don't take it too seriously, Evander. Really, it's not that big a deal.

    Though you can only reasonably expect Nintendo to go just so far.

    As for the game itself I imagine I'll end getting it, not because I'll lose weight but because it'll be something fun to do with my girlfriend.

    I hope my family gets one, it'd be something cool for them too and my dad's been wanting to drop a few pounds for years (he works out fairly regularly but he also works on a farm for like 10-12 hours a day and does no cardio).

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Don't take it too seriously, Evander.

    You don't know me, do you?

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    No sir. No sir I do not. I admit I may have made an ass out of myself and you and Tube were actually dancing merrily away in front of me. It's possible.

    Just, you know.

    Still looks like a pretty fun game.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    In all honesty, though, I am really excited about the confirmation of more durable boards for the american release.

    It is incredibly annoying to be excluded from things for being an outlier when it comes to size, and it's nice to see Nintendo trying to be inclusive.



    Now, I just hope that it's big enough to fit my size 15 feet on to ;)

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  • pdk01pdk01 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wyborn wrote: »
    As for the game itself I imagine I'll end getting it, not because I'll lose weight but because it'll be something fun to do with my girlfriend.

    Girlfriend... mild daily exercise... yeah, I'm thinking videogames too ;-)

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Evander wrote: »
    In all honesty, though, I am really excited about the confirmation of more durable boards for the american release.

    It is incredibly annoying to be excluded from things for being an outlier when it comes to size, and it's nice to see Nintendo trying to be inclusive.



    Now, I just hope that it's big enough to fit my size 15 feet on to ;)

    Not to be rude, but how much do you weigh? 300 lbs is 21 stone, which is pretty close to being two mes.

    (funnily enough your feet are literally twice the size of mine)

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If you are agreeing with anything Neva says, you really have to start reconsidering your life at this point.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Arde wrote: »
    If you are agreeing with anything Neva says, you really have to start reconsidering your life at this point.

    and there was me thinking it was the 300+ people who needed to be doing that.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Leitner wrote: »
    Arde wrote: »
    If you are agreeing with anything Neva says, you really have to start reconsidering your life at this point.

    and there was me thinking it was the 300+ people who needed to be doing that.

    Well his sentence wasn't really worded as an either/or, they can feel free to reconsider their lives too. For which WiiFit is a step in the right direction.

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  • kouri1977kouri1977 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If the howls of laughter coming from the kitchen as I planted my face in the BB while trying to do a push-up were any indication, I think my wife is really glad I got this.

    10 jackknives the other day gave me stomach cramps. Man, I've really let myself go coming to this country, I was far healthier when I was drinking pints of bitter and eating kebabs and curries.

    Love this "game".

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It just occured to me that they need to have Picabo Street do the voice in the US version.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    It's out? Any reviews up?

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  • ikillkennyikillkenny Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It's out? Any reviews up?

    It's out in Japan, but not until early '08 in the US.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I too am curious as to how it scored in Japan.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Media Create numbers should be out tomorrow night. i really really want to know if this thing sold as well as it appears.

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  • toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I too am curious as to how it scored in Japan.
    I thought Famitsu would have a review before it released last week but they didn't. I haven't seen a single review/score, just the previews. This must mean they're busy doing a thorough review. Right?
    Media Create numbers should be out tomorrow night. i really really want to know if this thing sold as well as it appears.
    I just want to know if they shipped more than stated. Apparently the initial shipment to retailers was only 300k. This appears to be true; the game retails for 8,800 yen (~$80) and is currently going for 14,800 yen (~$134) on amazon.jp, a 68% mark-up. I realize Amazon isn't the greatest example for the whole market but I'd take it as a reliable indicator.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Media Create numbers should be out tomorrow night. i really really want to know if this thing sold as well as it appears.

    How many does is that MC going to cover for #days that Wii Fit was on the shelf?

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