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Technologies of the Near Future

ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
edited November 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
In this thread we talk about future technologies that are currently undergoing research and development. Not science-fiction stuff, like "oh it would be so awesome if we had lightsabers!!!11one" or "lez go terraform mars!!" but rather technologies of a more realistic nature, technologies that will most likely come into being in the next decade or two.
  • Evolution of computers: new materials, interfaces and designs for computers
  • Super cars: greener, safer technology for vehicles of the future
  • Home improvement: energy-efficient, perhaps even energy-generating homes
  • The Internet: better connections, more personalized content, and what is called The Grid (a.k.a. grid computing).
  • Communications: Mobile technologies to satisfy our hunger for immediate information
  • Nanotechnology: applications in environmental sciences and medicine, and a lot more
Most of you are tech-savvy individuals, and some of you have jobs in technology-related fields or dabble in scientific research. In your opinion and knowledge, what are some exciting and promising technologies that we will see in our lifetime?

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Biotechnology and genetics are going to explode.
    I mean totally fucking explode.
    We are in for so much cool and/or genetic clone wars.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited November 2007
    I love GE's Kitchen of the Future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCFWdZicOM

    It's so overblown and a complete mess.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Carbon Nanotubes and nanotech that will allow me to live forever. Bring it on.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    Carbon Nanotubes and nanotech that will allow me to live forever. Bring it on.
    So will biotech!
    Nano-biotech will make us immortal gods or mutant cyborgs.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    Carbon Nanotubes and nanotech that will allow me to live forever. Bring it on.
    So will biotech!
    Nano-biotech will make us immortal gods or mutant cyborgs.

    I am pleased either way.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I love GE's Kitchen of the Future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCFWdZicOM

    It's so overblown and a complete mess.

    God dammit, either you use voice commands or a touch screen, but not both. Also I fucking hate that couple, but I don't know why.

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  • StargateJewStargateJew SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    Carbon Nanotubes and nanotech that will allow me to live forever. Bring it on.
    So will biotech!
    Nano-biotech will make us immortal gods or mutant cyborgs.

    But can it cure the common cold...

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    Carbon Nanotubes and nanotech that will allow me to live forever. Bring it on.
    So will biotech!
    Nano-biotech will make us immortal gods or mutant cyborgs.

    But can it cure the common cold...

    yeah, why cure cancer when the imminent threat of the common cold stalks the streets?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I love GE's Kitchen of the Future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCFWdZicOM

    It's so overblown and a complete mess.

    God dammit, either you use voice commands or a touch screen, but not both. Also I fucking hate that couple, but I don't know why.
    I can't see the link so I could be missing something, but why would I need voice commands in my kitchen outside of telling the oven/microwave what to do?

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    Malkor wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    I love GE's Kitchen of the Future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCFWdZicOM

    It's so overblown and a complete mess.

    God dammit, either you use voice commands or a touch screen, but not both. Also I fucking hate that couple, but I don't know why.
    I can't see the link so I could be missing something, but why would I need voice commands in my kitchen outside of telling the oven/microwave what to do?
    The weather, asking the fridge what's in the fridge, telling the fridge how to crush your ice. It's tons better than the ones from the 50s though I'll give them that.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Man, I can open the fridge and see what's in it.
    Hearing that thing drone on doesn't sound like fun.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Fuzzy's right. Anyone who pours that much money into their kitchen should care about their food too, which means actually looking inside and seeing the food. I've got maybe twenty different items in there right now and don't want to listen to a voice tell them all to me when I could just open a door.

    As far as telling me the weather, that's a nice addition but hardly something specific to or even useful in the kitchen.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Maybe if it made me food.
    I would buy it then.
    "Ice cream please."
    "Affirmative"
    That would be glorious.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I would be happy with a fridge that keeps inventory and lets me view a list of items (with pictures!) without opening the door.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    I would be happy with a fridge that keeps inventory and lets me view a list of items (with pictures!) without opening the door.
    Yeah, but if it doesn't tell you the age of the food, you would be overjoyed to find some favorite food of yours on the list and then look inside and realize it is months old.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    I would be happy with a fridge that keeps inventory and lets me view a list of items (with pictures!) without opening the door.
    Yeah, but if it doesn't tell you the age of the food, you would be overjoyed to find some favorite food of yours on the list and then look inside and realize it is months old.

    It would track that too! RFID is fun.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That seems like a lot of trouble to go through to check to see if you can still use the onions you bought last week. Not to mention I can't see any cook giving up actually inspecting their food by looking, holding, smelling, and tasting it.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    the refrigerator is one of those things thats barely changed for a reason. It works fine the way it is.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Actually it looks like the mock-up fridge actually gives recipes based on what you have in the fridge...

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    Actually it looks like the mock-up fridge actually gives recipes based on what you have in the fridge...
    That is a good addition.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    That seems like a lot of trouble to go through to check to see if you can still use the onions you bought last week. Not to mention I can't see any cook giving up actually inspecting their food by looking, holding, smelling, and tasting it.

    How does having an automated inventory prevent that?

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    Malkor wrote: »
    Actually it looks like the mock-up fridge actually gives recipes based on what you have in the fridge...
    That is a good addition.

    I can see mine now

    rice a roni
    lean cuisine
    beer
    pie

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    You could tell it to keep things in stock, give it a budget, and then it could do its best to order all the food for you from the internet.

    Another real advantage is energy saving (assuming it doesnt actually have the massive backlit screen and only has a little touch screen). Rather than checking for milk, heating up the fridge and then having to go and get it, you check for milk and dont open the fridge if it isnt there. Thus you open the fridge less and save energy. Even more clever would be if it automated itself a bit on the inside, with kinda a robot arm internally stacking things in and putting them in a "heat lock" when you said you wanted them so you could get them out and put them in without opening the main cooled compartment.

    Of course, all this relies more on technology becoming more reliable than more advanced, you could build such a device today, it would just break down more than could be tolerated and be too slow.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    That seems like a lot of trouble to go through to check to see if you can still use the onions you bought last week. Not to mention I can't see any cook giving up actually inspecting their food by looking, holding, smelling, and tasting it.

    How does having an automated inventory prevent that?
    It doesn't prevent it, but it's a needless addition. It's a large expenditure which doesn't provide any service to people who actually cook.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    That seems like a lot of trouble to go through to check to see if you can still use the onions you bought last week. Not to mention I can't see any cook giving up actually inspecting their food by looking, holding, smelling, and tasting it.

    How does having an automated inventory prevent that?
    It doesn't prevent it, but it's a needless addition. It's a large expenditure which doesn't provide any service to people who actually cook.

    Don't cooks typically have specialized freezers and refrigerators anyway? I think most people are talking about common consumer tech in this thread. :P

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Don't cooks typically have specialized freezers and refrigerators anyway? I think most people are talking about common consumer tech in this thread. :P
    I'm talking about the average person who actually cooks. I mean someone who spends an hour or two preparing and cooking ingredients for their evening meal. Someone who mixes beef and hamburger helper together or make mac and cheese on a refular basis aren't going to care to buy a fridge that can tell them what they have in their fridge because they probably already know. Meanwhile people who fill their fridge with so many ingredients they could use the feature are going to want to have a better idea of the state of their ingredients than what's in there and when it's supposed to expire. It doesn't seem to me that it would have any appeal to enthusiastic cooks and the nonenthusiastic ones only if they had the extra disposable income.

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  • PhantomBuddhaPhantomBuddha Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    tbloxham wrote: »
    You could tell it to keep things in stock, give it a budget, and then it could do its best to order all the food for you from the internet.

    Another real advantage is energy saving (assuming it doesnt actually have the massive backlit screen and only has a little touch screen). Rather than checking for milk, heating up the fridge and then having to go and get it, you check for milk and dont open the fridge if it isnt there. Thus you open the fridge less and save energy. Even more clever would be if it automated itself a bit on the inside, with kinda a robot arm internally stacking things in and putting them in a "heat lock" when you said you wanted them so you could get them out and put them in without opening the main cooled compartment.

    Of course, all this relies more on technology becoming more reliable than more advanced, you could build such a device today, it would just break down more than could be tolerated and be too slow.

    This one better be absolute perfection before it goes to market, because if I push the "glass of milk" button and get a "glass of orange juice" or a "glass of fresh cottage cheese", I will be getting the shotgun out of the dishwasher and poking large, energy innefficient holes in the front of my 'I'm smarter than jesus' refrigerator!

    Cool idea though, like a vending machine, that is free, and made just for me! Take that office assclown that takes all the twinkies the day after the vending machine gets filled!!!

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  • PhantomBuddhaPhantomBuddha Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    I'm talking about the average person who actually cooks. I mean someone who spends an hour or two preparing and cooking ingredients for their evening meal. Someone who mixes beef and hamburger helper together or make mac and cheese on a refular basis aren't going to care to buy a fridge that can tell them what they have in their fridge because they probably already know. Meanwhile people who fill their fridge with so many ingredients they could use the feature are going to want to have a better idea of the state of their ingredients than what's in there and when it's supposed to expire. It doesn't seem to me that it would have any appeal to enthusiastic cooks and the nonenthusiastic ones only if they had the extra disposable income.
    Easy, instead of a normal LCD screen, use a smellovision screen.

    /shrug

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It doesn't seem like a terrible idea for some people. But I can't help but feel that after they were told by the computer their produce was still good they would be compelled to check.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! DownriverRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    For me personally, I'm really interested in Super-Capacitor technology. It's not really anything "new" (although it's only been really practical for the last ten or fifteen years), but it's interesting to see how they're being used now to overcome the drawbacks to hybrid and battery-powered vehicles. There's actually a company near Austin called EEstor that has supposedly created and patented a super-capacitor using barium titanate that they claim will replace the battery completely. They claim that it will retain the very high power density of traditional super capacitors, but that it will also have an energy density of up to twice that of a lithium ion battery (in general, super capacitors have something like one-tenth the energy density of li-ion battery iirc).

    If true, this would basically mean that it would retain the best characteristics of both batteries and super capacitors, which would be pretty amazing. I'm still personally skeptical of their claims because for one, they just sound too good to be true (which means they probably are), and two, the company is very secretive and has revealed almost nothing about their technology, which screams scam to me. That said, they do have a few relatively big names backing them for funding, so I guess we'll see.

    Regardless of whether or not their claims pan out, the technology of super capacitors in general is a pretty interesting topic, for me at least. I have a feeling that, for smaller portable electronic appliances like MP3 players and cell phones and stuff, super capacitors may be a good replacement for batteries in the future. Imagine being able to "flash" charge your cell phone in under a minute, and having that charge last you all day long, and imagine never having to replace your battery again thanks to the virtually unlimited number of charge cycles a capacitor can go through. These are things super capacitors can do very well. They still have many drawbacks, but I'm hoping many of these can be overcome as technology progresses.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    Malkor wrote: »
    Actually it looks like the mock-up fridge actually gives recipes based on what you have in the fridge...
    That is a good addition.

    I can see mine now

    rice a roni
    lean cuisine
    beer
    pie
    dead body
    money
    It would make the FBI's job much easier.

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  • DevilGuyDevilGuy Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I take issue with the no terraforming mars quip, technically it's well within our grasp, we just don't want to spend the trillion or so dollars it would take to get it going, its Ironic when you think about it really, we've spent about that much on the war on terror so far, if we were as interested in space travel as we are in blowing up jihadist morons we could effectively lay claim to a whole other planet...

    as for that GE kitchen... never going to happen, the problem with it is that it trys to do alot of things that it really doesn't need to do, and it doesn't do them any more efficiently than a human does, in the end a few people might have a setup like that, but not many.

    I'm waiting for cybernetics, How long till I can replace my arm with a minigun? a full prosthetic body like Ghost in the shell would be pretty sweet, and really not that far off, we're close on the technical expertise to building the body itself, the cybernetic interface is the last major obstacle.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DevilGuy wrote: »
    I take issue with the no terraforming mars quip, technically it's well within our grasp, we just don't want to spend the trillion or so dollars it would take to get it going, its Ironic when you think about it really, we've spent about that much on the war on terror so far, if we were as interested in space travel as we are in blowing up jihadist morons we could effectively lay claim to a whole other planet...

    as for that GE kitchen... never going to happen, the problem with it is that it trys to do alot of things that it really doesn't need to do, and it doesn't do them any more efficiently than a human does, in the end a few people might have a setup like that, but not many.

    I'm waiting for cybernetics, How long till I can replace my arm with a minigun? a full prosthetic body like Ghost in the shell would be pretty sweet, and really not that far off, we're close on the technical expertise to building the body itself, the cybernetic interface is the last major obstacle.
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    What, AI has been one of the biggest disappointments in the last 20 years.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DevilGuy wrote: »
    I take issue with the no terraforming mars quip, technically it's well within our grasp, we just don't want to spend the trillion or so dollars it would take to get it going, its Ironic when you think about it really, we've spent about that much on the war on terror so far, if we were as interested in space travel as we are in blowing up jihadist morons we could effectively lay claim to a whole other planet...

    as for that GE kitchen... never going to happen, the problem with it is that it trys to do alot of things that it really doesn't need to do, and it doesn't do them any more efficiently than a human does, in the end a few people might have a setup like that, but not many.

    I'm waiting for cybernetics, How long till I can replace my arm with a minigun? a full prosthetic body like Ghost in the shell would be pretty sweet, and really not that far off, we're close on the technical expertise to building the body itself, the cybernetic interface is the last major obstacle.
    borg.jpg
    What, AI has been one of the biggest disappointments in the last 20 years.

    God damn why are we talking about kitchens when we can talk about AI's?

    Seriously, AI research has been spinning it's wheels. It seems like "human-like" systems are something we've got well in hand, in that we can trick people into interacting with a machine like it's a human, but actual progress on sentience is really poor.

    Anyways, I think decent expert machines will be useful tools in the future. "Virtual secretary" style things, not actually smart, but able to do a job for you the way you'd like it done.

    Edit: and people seriously need to stop trying to "cheat" the Turing test. I can write something that passes the test. All I have to do is properly anticipate the questions and give it the knowledge needed to answer. But that has jack all to do with artificial intelligence and everything to do with my intelligence. Eliza works because another human being is tricking you by proxy, not because Eliza is any closer to sentience than your fucking toaster.

    God what a waste of time that shit is. No one should be Turing Testing anything for another 50 years.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    We've cloned cells from a non-human primate recently. BRING ON THE ISLAND! Or maybe just racks of replacement parts.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Positronic brains FTW.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DevilGuy wrote: »
    I take issue with the no terraforming mars quip, technically it's well within our grasp, we just don't want to spend the trillion or so dollars it would take to get it going, its Ironic when you think about it really, we've spent about that much on the war on terror so far, if we were as interested in space travel as we are in blowing up jihadist morons we could effectively lay claim to a whole other planet...

    as for that GE kitchen... never going to happen, the problem with it is that it trys to do alot of things that it really doesn't need to do, and it doesn't do them any more efficiently than a human does, in the end a few people might have a setup like that, but not many.

    I'm waiting for cybernetics, How long till I can replace my arm with a minigun? a full prosthetic body like Ghost in the shell would be pretty sweet, and really not that far off, we're close on the technical expertise to building the body itself, the cybernetic interface is the last major obstacle.
    borg.jpg
    What, AI has been one of the biggest disappointments in the last 20 years.

    God damn why are we talking about kitchens when we can talk about AI's?

    Seriously, AI research has been spinning it's wheels. It seems like "human-like" systems are something we've got well in hand, in that we can trick people into interacting with a machine like it's a human, but actual progress on sentience is really poor.

    Anyways, I think decent expert machines will be useful tools in the future. "Virtual secretary" style things, not actually smart, but able to do a job for you the way you'd like it done.

    Well isn't there that AI that they are having learn things like a baby would? If I remember correctly it started off with just the bare basics, light and dark recognition, and last I heard it was able to track items, pick one out of a bunch when asked etc. I am of the personal opinion that processes like that will be our best chance at developing a true Artificial Intelligence, since what is our intelligence if not a sum of our experiences?

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wulf wrote: »
    DevilGuy wrote: »
    I take issue with the no terraforming mars quip, technically it's well within our grasp, we just don't want to spend the trillion or so dollars it would take to get it going, its Ironic when you think about it really, we've spent about that much on the war on terror so far, if we were as interested in space travel as we are in blowing up jihadist morons we could effectively lay claim to a whole other planet...

    as for that GE kitchen... never going to happen, the problem with it is that it trys to do alot of things that it really doesn't need to do, and it doesn't do them any more efficiently than a human does, in the end a few people might have a setup like that, but not many.

    I'm waiting for cybernetics, How long till I can replace my arm with a minigun? a full prosthetic body like Ghost in the shell would be pretty sweet, and really not that far off, we're close on the technical expertise to building the body itself, the cybernetic interface is the last major obstacle.
    borg.jpg
    What, AI has been one of the biggest disappointments in the last 20 years.

    God damn why are we talking about kitchens when we can talk about AI's?

    Seriously, AI research has been spinning it's wheels. It seems like "human-like" systems are something we've got well in hand, in that we can trick people into interacting with a machine like it's a human, but actual progress on sentience is really poor.

    Anyways, I think decent expert machines will be useful tools in the future. "Virtual secretary" style things, not actually smart, but able to do a job for you the way you'd like it done.

    Well isn't there that AI that they are having learn things like a baby would? If I remember correctly it started off with just the bare basics, light and dark recognition, and last I heard it was able to track items, pick one out of a bunch when asked etc. I am of the personal opinion that processes like that will be our best chance at developing a true Artificial Intelligence, since what is our intelligence if not a sum of our experiences?
    I think irrationality needs to be put in as well. We are trying to create an image of ourselves but without the self.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I think trying to structure intelligence like an algorithm in the first place is a mistake.

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