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Also, no more Fighter. If this works out, I'm going to be using my previous half-tribal dude as a Scout from Complete Adventurer. (If the Scout class is okay!) It just fits a whole lot better.
Its pretty cool. I made a level 1 Gnome Rogue, and then a level 5 Dwarf Warrior.
So...what level are we going to run this? I'm not sure if that's been covered.
Now, as for levels and such.
Starting levels will be 5th, because I think that's a good "sweet spot" for starting characters who're confident, powerful, and capable without being too strong. However, because this is a relatively low-magic setting, you'll have to use the gold for a 4th level character to buy equipment with, and preferably no more than two magic items. Also, masterwork items are okay, but they shouldn't be considered a requisite... they're masterwork for a reason. Make them special and make sure to treat them as they deserve in an in character sense. If your character didn't care about their equipment, they wouldn't bother using exceptional goods, after all.
Interesting "trinkets" are encouraged, too. If you've got an idea for something pseudo-magical that doesn't actually seem to be truly magical, feel free to mention it. Thunderstones, Sunrods, and the like fall under "trinkets".
Wizards will be limited in their spells known at game start to the 2 spells per character level, plus whatever they're willing to buy as scrolls. Don't forget to start a level 1 character and level them to 5, with the starting three 1st level spells, plus two more per level after that. That's 11 spells, for those of you reading at home, plus scrolls bought, and 5 of those have to be first level. Having spells other than the "standard" Magic Missile and Fireball is encouraged. Strongly encouraged. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with fireball, it is kind of an iconic spell. It's more that a wizard who's always got their slot limits of Magic Missile and Fireball memorized isn't my idea of a particularly interesting wizard. It also speaks to their mentality of always expecting to have to kill something, and that sort of mentality doesn't lend itself well to concentration, study, or rest.
By all means, feel free to use your equipment in your background. Feel free to devise spells (As long as they're mechanically no more powerful than other spells of their level) and use those instead of standard versions. Make things interesting. Of course, anything nonstandard should be run by me, but I'm more than likely going to say yes unless it's an obvious attempt at twinkery, as long as it's relevant to your character.
I do strongly encourage anyone who wants an Arcane caster to try a Wizard over a Sorceror. There's so much more versatility to a Wizard, and since you're never going to know what I'm going to throw at you next, a Sorceror may find their spells ging to waste if they've chosen badly (Or chosen to specialize in nothing but massive damage AoE...)
Anyway. I welcome more questions. Except questions on when I'm going to run. I can't tell you when I'm going to be running this, because honestly, I need to have an assessment of everyone's availablility first. I'm pretty much available almost anytime right now. So I'm basically going to go with whenever I can get the majority of you online.
I dont have the rules
And I've never played
Can anyone tell me what books I need and how costly they are? I want to know how screwed I am.
Much less "Fireball, Chain Lightning, Cone of Cold, I'm done" than normal ones, though. He'd be a street rat, basically, using his magic to survive so lots of illusion and that sort. Probably a few rogue levels and eventually going into the Arcane Trickster class.
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Alisus, god of War
Portfolio: War, Battles, Warriors
Aura, goddess of Compassion
Portfolio: Healing, Love, Passion
Balsam, god of Wisdom
Portfolio: Clear-thought, Wisdom, Learning
Celinas, goddess of the Moon
Portfolio: Illusion, Change, Dreams
Helis, god of the Sun
Portfolio: Clarity, Loyalty, Courage
Karis, goddess of Life
Portfolio: Growing things, Life, Nature
Scirakh, god of Hatred
Portfolio: Hate, Violence, Murder
The Stranger, god of Endings
Portfolio: Death, Endings, Mercy
Tulkas, god of Justice
Portfolio: Justice, Honor, Judgement
Umbranox, deity of Night
Portfolio: Fear, Nightmare, Night
Verweren, god of Protection
Portfolio: Defense, Protection, Guardians
Before the before, there was a void, and into this void, there came a single spark of light. From this meeting of light and dark were birthed the Primals, the elemental gods, whose being created the wind and the rain and the earth. Unto them was given dominion over the elements of the world, from which all things are composed. These firstborn children are composed both of Light and Dark aspects, a Fair Face and a Dark Face.
And then unto the Light and the Dark were born the Elders, the gods of men. Unto these dominion was given of all things that walked or ran or crawled or flew or swam upon the world, and this angered the Primals. The Elders came forth, and gave unto the peoples of the world civilization, and taught them to protect themselves from the Primal elements that sought to break the new gods’ sway. From these early civilizations were the nations and peoples of today born. Each of these gods gave the peoples of the world a gift of their nature.
Of Alisus was the gift of battle given, to teach the peoples how to protect themselves from aggressors. Thus is Alisus known as the Warrior.
Of Aura was the gift of love given, to allow the peoples to help one another survive. Thus is Aura known as the Lover.
Of Balsam was the gift of learning given, to assist the peoples in their growth. Thus is Balsam known as the Teacher.
Of Karis was the gift of agriculture, to bring the people food. Thus is Karis known as the Provider.
Of Scirakh was the gift of hatred given, to teach the people the necessity of violence. Thus is Scirakh known as the Murderer.
Of The Stranger was the gift of death given, to save the people from the madness of immortality. Thus is the Stranger known as the Merciful.
Of Tulkas was the gift of justice given, to show the people how to live properly. Thus is Tulkas known as the Judge.
Of Verweren was the gift of defense given, to protect the people from those who would destroy them. Thus is Verweren known as the Guardian.
Three more were birthed from the void, three who bound themselves outside the world, yet became parts of it.
Helis chose for himself the Sun, bringing warmth and clarity to the world. Thus is he known.
Celinas chose for herself the Moon, bringing dreams and change to the world. This is she known.
Umbranox took unto herself the Night, the time of fear and nightmare. Thus is she known.
Others there are, the gods of hearth and field and home and tree; the gods of man and monster and forge and tool. These lesser gods came later, spreading forth to bring their gifts to the peoples.
Game notes: These are the “major†deities of the world, these eleven. Others may crop up as time goes on and I institute others. But for now, these are the big eleven. There are other, minor gods, usually regional or people-specific. These eleven, however, are pretty much universal except in the places where the Primals hold sway.
For the rest of you: In short I'm thinking a cleric of the fire god who focuses on the healing / beneficial aspects of flame.
I gave up the beguiler and I'm putting together a monk. >>
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Edit: curse my slow wit!
h5 to you, Fire Cleric.
Female Lawful Neutral Human Monk, Level 5, Init +3, HP 37/37, Speed 40
AC 19, Touch 18, Flat-footed 16, Fort +5, Ref +7, Will +7, Base Attack Bonus 3
Magic Unarmed Strike +6 (1d8, x2)
Flurry of Blows +5/+5 (1d8/1d8, x2) or Varies
Masterworked Kama +7 (1d6, x2)
(+1 Armor, +3 Dex, +1 Deflect, +4 Misc)
Abilities Str 10, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 10
Condition None
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Also, I'm all for the fire priest. Fire-as-healing isn't exactly an unworkable concept, after all, and it definately works for someone who would revere fire for its cleansing properties and such.
Part of what Manticore pm'd me was a nice but of flavor on how his priestly magic will manifest itself. I wanted to say I wholeheartedly approve of that sort of thing. "Poof, magicky stuff happened" isn't as interesting as "my spells tend to have a chaotic bent, each casting being slightly different" or something.
Also, elementally aligned characters should probably stay away from using magic associated with opposed elements, but that's mostly a stylistic choice and a way not to offend your gods.
Good God have I forgotten a lot.
I'm not completely finished, but this should be it here if someone wants to take a sec to doublecheck what I've got.
Also:
By the bolded parts, I'm guessing things might not be all cozy with the Primal gods? Or do they just not like competition, and general devotion and acquiescense to all four is allowed?
What book is Able Learner in, and does it work primarily like it does in NWN2? I know you need to be a first level human to take it in 3.5, but aside from that?
Katra:
Are you allowing the Able Learner if it wasn't in one of those books you mentioned (pleasesayyes pleasesayyes pleasesayyes)?
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I am wondering how we're going to run combat. I understand it's going to be combat-light, but is it going to be a "in your head" kind of thing, or what?
Also, do you guys have any room left in the group? :P
I would be running a wizard, definitely utility and light on the "fireball lol!" aspect. Do you mind if I go totally out on a limb here and create a wizard who is a general pacifist, doesn't like hurting people? Specializing in defensive and utility spells, mostly. I think that would be a fun concept for a class most people use to Burninate with.
Also, has a time slot been decided? I work M-F until 5:00 pm Eastern.
Male Neutral Good Human Cleric 5, Init +0, HP 27, Speed 20
AC 20, Touch 10, Flat Footed 20. Fort +5, Ref +1, Will +7
Darkwood Heavy Mace +5 (1d8+1, x2)
Feats: Extra Turning, Divine Metamagic, Reach Spell
Abilities: Str 12, Dex 10, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 14
5,400 gp
On the other hand, a generalistic worship of all four deities is totally allowed, yes. Most of those who worship the Primals worship and venerate all four. It's more that they'd know not to ask for the blessing of fire from anyone but, well, the fire god. When you worship specifically the Fire god above all others, then you run the risk of offending him if you call upon his bretheren, however. Basically, you're saying "You're the best god ever, yes you are, but honestly, you suck at this, so I need outside help". It's kinda that whole "I'm a GOD and I'm not good enough for you?!" thing.
Again, like I said, mostly a stylistic thing, although those who devote themselves specifically to one god more than others will likely have more options later on for specialized powers or PrCs or the like.
To MAnticore, yep, I'm fine with Able Learner.
To Spawnbroker: Combat will be run mostly according to the rules, with a touch of common sense. Basically I'll adjust modifiers and the like on the fly if I think circumstances warrant it. You'll still need to use the dice, but they won't rule everything. Taht's my job, after all. And as far as I know, so far I've got one fire priest, one monk, and one swashbucklery-pirate-rogue are the only characters I've got any information on, so yep, there's still room open. Someone mentioned a Sorceror, but I don't know anything about that yet. And yep, a wizard is perfectly cool. Just don't be a TOTAL pacifist... or at least, you might want to make an exception for suitably monstrous foes, as those will be present if and when you all venture from Arris' walls.
As for time slot, that's as yet undecided. We're working on that.
Male Chaotic Neutral Human Sorcerer 4/Rogue 1 Init +3, HP 21/21, Speed 30
AC 13, Touch 13, Flat-footed 10, Fort +1, Ref +6, Will +4, Base Attack Bonus +2
Abilities Str 8, Dex 16 (15+1 at level 4), Con 10, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 16
Spells Known: Level 0: Ghost Sound, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Dancing Lights, Daze, Flare Level 1: Color Spray, Grease, Disguise Self Level 2: Invisibility
Feats/Abilities: Summon Familiar (Cat), Sneak Attack 1d6, Eschew Materials, Able Learner, Draconic Heritage (Silver)
Edit: Working on the Myth-Weaver character sheet, and trying my damndest to do skills in my head. Also have a test to take and a speech to give tomorrow. I'll post the rest of the character when I can.
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But, seriously. I'm tweaking things, trying to play around with Dwarven beliefs. Maybe make him a little more open-minded to certain things. Hate to use the analogy, he could be the Do'Urden of his race.
Just a thought.
I think a dwarf that enjoys the benefits of magic and having them on his side instead of being distrusting of such objects and hating them is a bit of an anomaly. Plus it gives me a good excuse to use magical items
Also, I woudln't count on a preponderance of magical items. Mid level magic is difficult to find, and high level magic is even harder. You might be able to (theoretically) convince a magic-user in the poarty to enchant things for you, but enchanting things isn't quite as simple to me as throwing down a couple of spells and spending gold and xp. Not in this world, at any rate. There are reasons magic on this world isn't common.
Don't forget that fact. Even divine magic doesn't tend to range too high a level in most places. You guys, as PCs, may end up being the exception to the rule, but not without actually working for it.
In short, magic is special, not a requisite. Treat it accordingly.
Anyway, here he is:
[SIZE=+1]Gorin Gravelbreaker[/SIZE]
Male Neutral Good Dwarf Fighter, Level 5, Init +1, HP 48/48, Speed 20 ft.
AC 18, Touch 11, Flat-footed 17, Fort +6, Ref +2, Will +3, Base Attack Bonus 5
Dwarvencraft Dwarven Waraxe +10 (1d8, x3)
Sling (sling bullets) +6 (1d4, x2)
+2 to armor check penalties, +4 escape against web spell and net Dwarvencraft Breastplate (netcutter spikes), Heavy steel shield (+5 Armor, +2 Shield, +1 Dex)
Abilities Str 17, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 8
Condition Good
I used that thing INNS used because it looked excellent. Thanks for that.
You can get to the full sheet by clicking the name I posted.
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Are you planning to take feats that follow the Combat Reflexes line? If not, it's probably wasteful, since it'll only give you one additional AoO each round.
I only took it because I had to take 3 fighter feats. Any suggestions?
But that's so boring. :-p Probably for the best though.