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Demon Lemon
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Yeah, I guess you could say that DiRT has sparked an interest in me to try out this Rally racing first hand.
And yeah I guess i'm only 15 and have had my license only a month.
But hey, gotta start somewhere right?
So does anyone know any clubs or meetings or anything like that in GA or anything to get me started?
Thanks.
And yeah I guess i'm only 15 and have had my license only a month.
But hey, gotta start somewhere right?
So does anyone know any clubs or meetings or anything like that in GA or anything to get me started?
Thanks.
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Enjoy sir!
EDIT: Well that link is terrible, so here's one: http://www.tsdroadrally.com/
From that site I'd probably email one of the bloggers there, and they can direct you to some good places.
Are you talking about offroad Rallying?
I'm sure i'd have to be 18 to join one of these places.
But eh, i've got time haha.
thanks for the links!
Also, although you live in GA and this might be hard to do, you should really try 4-wheeling in the desert. It feels so amazing to fly around on and off of sand dunes. If you ever get the chance to do it, jump on it. It's amazing (I did this in Nevada and California).
Which I think they will.
Plus I don't know whether or not you know, but GA is in a big water shortage and this whole lake is dried up. So I might be able to do something there.
Would it be possible to rent an ATV somewhere?
Rallycross is so insanely fun, but also remember, its incredibly expensive. Even jerry-rigging stuff can be expensive. I was rounding a corner once, bottomed out and completely smashed in my oil pan
But yeah, meet up at a Rallycross, just go up to some guy with his hood up, admire and swoon and you will be his friend. Most people in Rallycross are hugely great guys and LOVE to give people rides, cause it shows off their abilities and car. Borrow a helmet from someone there and hop in.
Beware though...motor sports are EXPENSIVE.
First off, I'd say get involved with a local car club/SCCA. That's a great starting point that lets amateurs get involved with the motorsports scene. I started out doing autocross in a Porsche 928 at local SCCA and PCA events, which worked very well for me. I'd suggest you check that out, as autocross is a good way to learn how to become a better driver in a (relatively) safe environment. Plus it's really fun. I started getting serious about rally after talking to some other drivers at an SCCA event. I wouldn't be surprised if you could find some other people interested in rally at an SCCA event.
I figure it should go without saying, but I will anyways; learn to drive stick, if you haven't already. If you have access to any car with a manual transmission, practice different techniques like heel-toe, double clutching, rev matching, etc. It'll make you a better driver both in regular driving and rally. I wouldn't suggest it normally, but if you happen to have access to some sort of private property with dirt roads and wide-open spaces where you can drive safely, that's always good. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT try to practice rally techniques on public roads. You'll most likely hurt yourself or other people around you. But if you or someone you know has a lot of land with dirt you can just drive around on, you could try learning some car control and more advanced rally techniques (scandinavian flick, left foot braking, etc.) These are kind of difficult techniques to master but if you're serious about rally they're things you should know. I learned just by growing up in Wisconsin. Snow puts your car control skills to the test.
Anyways, I'll stop writing before it's too late, but if you want to know anything else just let me know. I'll leave you with some pictures of me and my WRX after having a little fun at the Lake Superior Performance Rally just a couple weeks back. and a youtube video I made using my digital camera. Maybe it'll wet your rally whistle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3B4FCSkAo
Also, you can try checking out drifting. You probably know a little bit about it already, but if rally doesn't work out you could give drifting a look. Lots of the skills from rally carry over to drifting and vice-versa. Tanner Foust started in professional drifting, came into rally, and in no time at all he was winning rally events left and right. Just a thought.
Second, I want to thank everyone for their help in finding a starting line to my rally race (pretty clever huh?)
Anyway,
My dad has been teaching me how to use a manual a little bit on his old, payed for, 95 corrola.
Figured it would be better to start on an old beater than a Subaru.
Speaking of Subarus...great cars, but in my little Rabbit I beat a significant number of them. My rabbit also probably half as much.
If you're going into Rally, try to avoid any kind of brand new nicer car that their ads say are for Rally... get yourself an old beater Volkswagen GTI. Great little rally car. I've also seen older datsun 280zs...eagle talon, Scirocco's are great, as are Jettas and even some RZ-7's are good for it.
VW cars seem to be the better rallycross/low end rally imho, as they are easily upgradable and repairable
this man speaks the truth. My friend drives rally for Subaru and they completely customize the card to reduce weight. A lot of the production "rally" cars are really really heavy, which does make a big difference.
I agree that old VW's are one of the best ways to go if you want a cheap rally car, but I still know that if you want the closest to a rally car in stock form, a Subaru is the way to go.
Good luck finding a 323 GTX. Good suggestion, though. BTW...I bet the Subies could beat him, not just Evos.
yeah I do... hes training with them to join the world rally team next year or the year after. He spent all summer and fall training with petter solberg.
The Prodrive-prepped ones (the ones used by the actual Subaru team) are very different from the ones you can buy from the lot down the street. Either that, or it's a $600,000 lie.
(Prodrive parts ARE available from the dealers though, and are covered by warranty)
Seems to me the Evo's are cheaper, this because they aren't as reliable as Subarus?
Prodrive USA is closing down.
And secondly, get a civic to beat around in. I know a few people who are in open class with Civics and they do quite well. Overhead cost for a decent rally car (Spec'd out cage, seats, skid plates, etc) costs around 10,000.
If you were to start rallying, I would suggest to just buy a second hand rally prepped car.
My best advice to you if you are serious about getting into the motorsport is to look for your local rally club and volunteer as a crew member for a few seasons while attending Rally cross. T
he sport itself is a horrible, life threatening, expensive addiction, but chicks will think you're cool
I personally have rallied for the last decade or so, to get an idea of what it really is like you should go out and rent a series called "Engineering the world rally". It followed Subaru in the 2006 season while also showcasing a young driver and what it's like trying to get to the top.
As for the Mitsubishi VS Subaru debate (which has been beaten to death across the internet), Subaru's are generally faster in dirt than on the road. In my opinion the last true rally car that was made from Mitsubishi was the Tommi Makinen Evolution VI.
The early Evo VII/VIII transmissions were crap. It just couldn't handle the power that the last gereration was capable of. I had a friend who babied his, and it only made it about 30k miles until the clutch and 3rd gear synchros took a dump. He now has an STi, and it's solid.
Overall though, the 4G63 is a solid motor and has been through NUMEROUS revisions. The EJ25 is also good, but is not as peaky and go-cart like. The power in the Scooby is definitely more linear feeling.
Like is mentioned though, the debate has been done to death. It was done to death in Europe and Japan ten years ago.
Oh, and Prodrive USA might be shutting down, but what about Prodrive UK? That's where most rally cars get prepped anyhow. (Ralliart being based out of the UK kind of surprised me too, considering it's Mitsu's in-house tuner)
The lower classes sound pretty much exactly what the OP is looking for. Loose surface racing, with races for under-16s, and it's cheap.
Just uhh, wanted to show you how siked I am?
OK only one I know of, but since it's game you played that sparked your interest in this i'd watch my back....
First off let me say getting into motorsports is CHEAP!!!
Club membership $ 20 to 50 au per year
license (CAMS) $ 40 - 100 au per year
Event entry (khanas are the cheapest and can be done in your regular car, do these to start with they are like 20 to 60 bucks per event, rallys on the other hand cost $500 au)
Equip you will need:
Car: $1000+
rollcage: (unsure ring around, i didint pay to get mine in my old car, these have to comply with your racing confederations guidelines)
helmet: $100+
fire extinguisher: $100+
tyres: the worst and most wallet damaging part of the rally ($400 for a crappy set of offroaders)
Ok you dont need a good car to do rallies in. It just has to pass scrutineering (a safety check, its quite pedantic). Really for fun u can spend like 4000 to buy a crappy car and have it rally worthy and have great fun.
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That sounds expensive for a 15 year old.
Hell I'm 22 and that's expensive for me.
My car was $1000, most repairs I was able to jerry rig with a roll of duct tape, but the gas guzzling fuel, having to pay $20-40 to enter a race, then the extra tires, replacements parts...it adds up. Is it ungodly expensive?
No.
Is it really best if you have a bunch of disposable income?
Yes.
Being as he is 15 he likely may get a summer job or after school job, which the cash from that can go towards his parts and pieces, so that would work. When you've got rent costs, insurance costs, other car payments, bills, etc, that extra bit of money needed to rally can be a scale tipper on wether or not its too expensive.