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QuidQuid Definitely not a bananaRegistered User regular
edited November 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So ever since childhood I've been raised on soda. In the past months I've made strides to the point where the only soda I even drink maybe once a day has no phosphoric acid and uses sucrolose. Right now I mostly drink Crystal Light drinks I mix up in a pitcher. My only issue with them is I'd rather avoid aspartame but it seems to be the only sweetner they use. Still, it increases my water consumption a lot.

So my question is are there any easily made sweet drinks out there that while not necessarily healthy, won't eat holes in my brain either? Or am I going to have to keep cutting back to where I'm drinking just water?

Edit: To clarify, I need a drink that uses an artificial sweetner that isn't aspartame and won't destroy my teeth.

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    mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    you could always just make sweet teas or something like that.

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    DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Make/buy your own lemonade with real sugar? If you don't want to make it yourself, they sell organic lemonade with just sugar, water, and lemon juice.

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    WeretacoWeretaco Cubicle Gangster Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    http://www.splenda.com/

    Tastes like sugar.. doesn't have the nasty effects. You can make your own drinks with it and use it as a replacement for sugar when baking.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Weretaco wrote: »
    http://www.splenda.com/

    Tastes like sugar.. doesn't have the nasty effects. You can make your own drinks with it and use it as a replacement for sugar when baking.
    That definitely helps.

    And I guess I should have made it clear, I need something to replace the sugar I was getting way too much of.

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    scratchdeskscratchdesk Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm kind of a sucker for the flavored water drinks like Propel. I know they have started selling packets you can add to water to make your own at home. Perhaps that's a viable option?

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    redfenixredfenix Aka'd as rfix Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    isn't splenda also not so great for your system?

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    redfenix wrote: »
    isn't splenda also not so great for your system?
    Most studies, that I've found anyway, show that sucralose is only dangerous if you were to use 20k packets in a month.

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    Acolyte57Acolyte57 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    From what I've read, we really don't have any idea what any of the artificial sweeteners do. I'm not saying that you shouldn't drink artificial sweeteners, but if you're not going to trust one it's rather strange to trust any of the others.

    Anyways, cutting back to just water isn't a bad idea at all, since it will probably break the feeling that you need something sweet to drink. Try it for a month - just 4 weeks, it's not so long - then see if you still feel the need to have sweet drinks. I used to drink huge amounts of cherry coke and dr pepper, but I'm basically a black coffee, green tea and water guy now (okay, honestly, I just switched caffeine habits). If I feel the need for a sweet drink, I take one glass of coke light. But 99% of the time, water is fine for me.

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    starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    As far as green tea goes, what is the opinion on Arizona green tea?

    I have never tried to brew my own or anything.

    EDIT: And to be helpful, even though it contains asper, Arnold Palmer's Low Calorie. five cals a glass. Best tasting stuff ever.

    ...I need to stop drinking so much coke.

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    ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Spenda is shit.

    Go to the grocery store and find this stuff called Naked Juice. Don't buy it, but look on the bottle at the fruit combinations listed for each bottle. Now run over to the produce section and stock up on fresh fruits. Assuming you have a blender at home start making you some smoothies. They taste wonderful and are full of added benefits such as necessary vitamins, minerals, and fiber. I also toss in some grapefruit juice with mine to thin them out. Makes them last longer and you get vitamin C which will be found predominantly in citrus. Healthy and delicious. Some people add yogurt but I'm not one of them.

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    CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Unsweetened tea is very palatable, at least to me. You might try that. Even tea that you sweeten is likely to contain far less sugar than most soft drinks (and the pre-brewed tea you'll find on store shelves), so it's still a step up from bottles of soda.

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    Acolyte57Acolyte57 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Smoothies = good, but if you're going off soda and sugar for diet reasons, do some calculations on what you're adding to your daily calories with the fruit. Fructose is still sugar. Sugar is still calories.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Acolyte57 wrote: »
    Smoothies = good, but if you're going off soda and sugar for diet reasons, do some calculations on what you're adding to your daily calories with the fruit. Fructose is still sugar. Sugar is still calories.
    I'm still a skinny mother fucker. I'd like it to keep it that way too. And now that I think about it, I don't know why smoothies didn't occur to me. I fucking love smoothies.

    Right, thread solved. I'm getting some fruit.

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    blincolnblincoln Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    A couple of years ago I started drinking this stuff called Clear that Safeway sells. It's basically carbonated water with a bit of fruit flavouring and aspartame added, so zero calories, but pretty tasty. That got me off of drinking things with corn syrup in them. Then a year or so ago I started switching to things like unsweetened tea and fizzy water with *no* sweetener (Talking Rain, etc). I will still have diet soda once or twice a day (mostly for getting caffeine in a hurry), but most of my fluids are the tea or fizzy water now.

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    starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    blincoln wrote: »
    A couple of years ago I started drinking this stuff called Clear that Safeway sells. It's basically carbonated water with a bit of fruit flavouring and aspartame added, so zero calories, but pretty tasty. That got me off of drinking things with corn syrup in them. Then a year or so ago I started switching to things like unsweetened tea and fizzy water with *no* sweetener (Talking Rain, etc). I will still have diet soda once or twice a day (mostly for getting caffeine in a hurry), but most of my fluids are the tea or fizzy water now.

    Do you mix the tea with the carbonated water?

    If not, would that be tasty or just offensive?

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    Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I recommend the old Crystal Light stand-by. A lot of people may talk shit about it, but it's pretty good. Flavored sun tea is a wise investment too. The mango or passionfruit teas especially.

    Otherwise, I'd stay away from most sports drinks, as they have a lot of sugar in them.

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    SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Although the OP got his answer, i'd like to point out that drinks heavy on citric acid are worse for your teeth then phosphoric based drinks. This includes fruit juices, and I believe ice-tea is the worst offender of all. Not sure if dental care is the concern. If i recall correctly, it had something to do with it sticking around longer then phosphoric acid.

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    EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Aspartame won't give you brain lesions. You're more likely to get diabetes from regular ol' sugar than you are to ever develop brain lesions. Unless you're actually a lab rat that has figured out how to use the internet, but it seems more likely that you're a human.

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    ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Get frozen fruit for smoothies. Not only will you not have to add ice to thicken it, but a big bag of stuff lasts much longer than fresh.

    Oh, and frozen fruit and veggies are often fresher than the unfrozen.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    How much Crystal Light are you drinking, Quid?

    The lowest dosage of aspartame that have been shown to cause any sort of problem is 20mg/kg of bodyweight. Assuming you're drinking 2 quarts of Crystal Light per day, you'd have to weigh 105 pounds for you to be hitting that mark.

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    try stevia. you can find it at healthy/hippie-type places. i don't think it has any nutritive value, but it sweetens stuff well.

    though in powdered form it is difficult to dissolve in liquid, so you might be stirring a while.

    apparently there is some controversy about it (which i did not know about until i looked it up on wikipedia just now, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia)

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Thinatos wrote: »
    How much Crystal Light are you drinking, Quid?

    The lowest dosage of aspartame that have been shown to cause any sort of problem is 20mg/kg of bodyweight. Assuming you're drinking 2 quarts of Crystal Light per day, you'd have to weigh 105 pounds for you to be hitting that mark.
    That actually makes me feel a lot better about aspartame then. I've been drinking 2 quarts or less a day.

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    Frenchii5Frenchii5 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Djeet wrote: »
    try stevia. you can find it at healthy/hippie-type places. i don't think it has any nutritive value, but it sweetens stuff well.

    though in powdered form it is difficult to dissolve in liquid, so you might be stirring a while.

    apparently there is some controversy about it (which i did not know about until i looked it up on wikipedia just now, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia)

    I second the use of stevia. It has been used in South American for centuries and in East Asia for a few hundred years to balance blood sugar (glucose) levels. This is amazing! An all-natural plant-based sweetener that balances your blood sugar! Unheard of! And quite unlike all of the chemically altered artificial sweeteners, like high fructose corn syrup (found in soda), aspartame, sucralose, and soon to be wide spread as well, neotame.

    Drinks sweetened with stevia or agave nectar would be the way to go! And this may be a stupid question, but why don't you just drink 100% natural or organic fruit juices? They are really sweet naturally.

    Quid, why do you think that you need an artificial (chemically altered) sweetener? You just need a substitute for refined sugar and the high fructose corn syrup (the devil) that they put in sodas. Stevia and agave nectar are both all natural, healthy, and plenty sweet! :)

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Frenchii5 wrote: »
    Djeet wrote: »
    try stevia. you can find it at healthy/hippie-type places. i don't think it has any nutritive value, but it sweetens stuff well.

    though in powdered form it is difficult to dissolve in liquid, so you might be stirring a while.

    apparently there is some controversy about it (which i did not know about until i looked it up on wikipedia just now, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia)
    I second the use of stevia. It has been used in South American for centuries and in East Asia for a few hundred years to balance blood sugar (glucose) levels. This is amazing! An all-natural plant-based sweetener that balances your blood sugar! Unheard of! And quite unlike all of the chemically altered artificial sweeteners, like high fructose corn syrup (found in soda), aspartame, sucralose, and soon to be wide spread as well, neotame.

    Drinks sweetened with stevia or agave nectar would be the way to go! And this may be a stupid question, but why don't you just drink 100% natural or organic fruit juices? They are really sweet naturally.

    Quid, why do you think that you need an artificial (chemically altered) sweetener? You just need a substitute for refined sugar and the high fructose corn syrup (the devil) that they put in sodas. Stevia and agave nectar are both all natural, healthy, and plenty sweet! :)
    Hemlock is 100% natural, as is arsenic. Do you have any sort of clinical study to back up your "balancing blood sugar" argument? Because it sounds like the sort of stuff the hippie marketing movement would be saying in order to sell you something for 1000% the cost of a perfectly safe, better, mainstream product.

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    CojonesCojones Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I'm not sure how it is in the US but over here we have Diet Coke Plus, which is essentially diet coke(HFCS free) with added vitamins.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    Thinatos wrote: »
    How much Crystal Light are you drinking, Quid?

    The lowest dosage of aspartame that have been shown to cause any sort of problem is 20mg/kg of bodyweight. Assuming you're drinking 2 quarts of Crystal Light per day, you'd have to weigh 105 pounds for you to be hitting that mark.
    That actually makes me feel a lot better about aspartame then. I've been drinking 2 quarts or less a day.
    You should be fine, then, provided you're not having any sort of mysterious ailments that could be attributed to the aspartame; some people just have a bad reaction to the stuff, much like peanuts.

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    DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Get frozen fruit for smoothies. Not only will you not have to add ice to thicken it, but a big bag of stuff lasts much longer than fresh.

    Oh, and frozen fruit and veggies are often fresher than the unfrozen.

    Seconded. However, make sure you get a quality blender. I have broken many a cheap-o blender with frozen strawberries - I ended up getting an industrial strength monster.

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    HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    pretty much all I drink is Arizona green tea. Its pretty good for you and has just the right amount of sweet taste.

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    KatholicKatholic Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    So ever since childhood I've been raised on soda. In the past months I've made strides to the point where the only soda I even drink maybe once a day has no phosphoric acid and uses sucrolose. Right now I mostly drink Crystal Light drinks I mix up in a pitcher. My only issue with them is I'd rather avoid aspartame but it seems to be the only sweetner they use. Still, it increases my water consumption a lot.

    So my question is are there any easily made sweet drinks out there that while not necessarily healthy, won't eat holes in my brain either? Or am I going to have to keep cutting back to where I'm drinking just water?

    Edit: To clarify, I need a drink that uses an artificial sweetner that isn't aspartame and won't destroy my teeth.

    http://www.crystalgeyser.com/juice_squeeze/cgw_js.html

    These are delicious, 70% fruit juice, carbonated, sweet, and fairly healthy.

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    edited November 2007
    I'm with Thanatos on aspartame. There's really no reason to suspect that small amounts are bad for the average person (and, BTW, there is a LOT more research on the safety of aspartame than there is on the safety of sucralose).

    Also, fresh mint adds nearly nothing to the caloric load of a beverage and has a sweetening effect. I really like Metromint but it's stupidly expensive ($2.50 for a bottle of water? fuck that) and you can make the same thing with filtered tap water, a tea infuser, and fresh mint from the grocery store.

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    Judge-ZJudge-Z Teacher, for Great Justice Upstate NYRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I've been trying to cut back on both sugar and artificial sweeteners, and have found a way to make iced tea that tastes fantastic and has no/low sweetener.

    First, get your ass one of these...

    Hamilton Beach iced tea maker - much easier to use and clean than the Mr. Coffee version. You'll need about one small bag of ice a week if you drink as much as I do and you don't have an ice maker or want to be constantly making ice.

    And then hit up Adagio Teas and get some of the fruit flavored tea. The mango, peach, and strawberry I have tried, and when made properly is sweet enough to drink without adding anything (although a teaspoon of sugar, at only 15 calories, makes it even sweeter). One 8oz tin makes a fuck-ton of iced tea. The stuff is good hot, as well. Better than anything else I've had (although the Earl Grey from Adagio, strangely, is not very good).

    EDIT: Tea also has some health benefits. Sure, you may look like a pussy if your friends find your stash of loose leaf peach tea, but fuck 'em. It's good.

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    variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Just learn to love water.

    I drink Sprite Zero if I'm really craving a soda.

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    AhhseeAhhsee Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Stick to water. If you can fight the urge in the supermarket to not buy any soda, you've pretty much won the battle. Winning the war means not falling into the trap of going for sugar replacements in your soda. Just drop the stuff. It's not good for you in any way.

    That being said, having some now and again will NOT kill you. Considering how much you drink now or have in the past, a can of pepsi every so often isn't gonna hurt, or pack on the weight. Hell, buying a case now and then isn't going to hurt. Overall, you've drastically cut down what you're consuming, and that's the biggest part.

    Sure, you can try and "replace" your soda with a sweet drink, with other forms of sugar, or sugar-substitutes, but you haven't done much except replace what's filling your cup. It's probably just as bad, sometimes according to what study you read, worse.

    So take the one guy's advice, and try to get off the stuff completely for a month. Yeah, caffeine withdrawl sucks, but stick to drinking tea or coffee with as little sugar you need to consume the stuff. You can get over the caffeine addiction pretty easily, just takes willpower, and for myself, that's the entire reason for wanting soda. Not the flavor or sugar, just the caffeine. If i get it somewhere else, water is fine for me.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    öhsee wrote: »
    Stick to water. If you can fight the urge in the supermarket to not buy any soda, you've pretty much won the battle. Winning the war means not falling into the trap of going for sugar replacements in your soda. Just drop the stuff. It's not good for you in any way.

    That being said, having some now and again will NOT kill you. Considering how much you drink now or have in the past, a can of pepsi every so often isn't gonna hurt, or pack on the weight. Hell, buying a case now and then isn't going to hurt. Overall, you've drastically cut down what you're consuming, and that's the biggest part.

    Sure, you can try and "replace" your soda with a sweet drink, with other forms of sugar, or sugar-substitutes, but you haven't done much except replace what's filling your cup. It's probably just as bad, sometimes according to what study you read, worse.

    So take the one guy's advice, and try to get off the stuff completely for a month. Yeah, caffeine withdrawl sucks, but stick to drinking tea or coffee with as little sugar you need to consume the stuff. You can get over the caffeine addiction pretty easily, just takes willpower, and for myself, that's the entire reason for wanting soda. Not the flavor or sugar, just the caffeine. If i get it somewhere else, water is fine for me.
    If it were caffeine he wanted, he'd be going with diet soda, instead of Crystal Light; Crystal Light is caffeine free.

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    CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Thinatos wrote: »
    öhsee wrote: »
    Stick to water. If you can fight the urge in the supermarket to not buy any soda, you've pretty much won the battle. Winning the war means not falling into the trap of going for sugar replacements in your soda. Just drop the stuff. It's not good for you in any way.

    That being said, having some now and again will NOT kill you. Considering how much you drink now or have in the past, a can of pepsi every so often isn't gonna hurt, or pack on the weight. Hell, buying a case now and then isn't going to hurt. Overall, you've drastically cut down what you're consuming, and that's the biggest part.

    Sure, you can try and "replace" your soda with a sweet drink, with other forms of sugar, or sugar-substitutes, but you haven't done much except replace what's filling your cup. It's probably just as bad, sometimes according to what study you read, worse.

    So take the one guy's advice, and try to get off the stuff completely for a month. Yeah, caffeine withdrawl sucks, but stick to drinking tea or coffee with as little sugar you need to consume the stuff. You can get over the caffeine addiction pretty easily, just takes willpower, and for myself, that's the entire reason for wanting soda. Not the flavor or sugar, just the caffeine. If i get it somewhere else, water is fine for me.
    If it were caffeine he wanted, he'd be going with diet soda, instead of Crystal Light; Crystal Light is caffeine free.

    Unless its Crystal Light Iced Tea.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2007
    pretty much all I drink is Arizona green tea. Its pretty good for you and has just the right amount of sweet taste.

    If you mean those sweetened ones, they're not much better for you than soda. Still a lot of high-fructose corn syrup, though they're damned tasty.

    I've found these flavored waters that have zero calories and are really tasty. Not the ones that have a bunch of sucralose in them, but different ones that aren't even really sweet. Know how when you stick a lemon slice in water it gets a faint lemon flavor? Imagine that, but with all sorts of different fruits. Can't remember the brand, but those things are yummy and healthy.

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    mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Quid wrote: »
    Thinatos wrote: »
    How much Crystal Light are you drinking, Quid?

    The lowest dosage of aspartame that have been shown to cause any sort of problem is 20mg/kg of bodyweight. Assuming you're drinking 2 quarts of Crystal Light per day, you'd have to weigh 105 pounds for you to be hitting that mark.
    That actually makes me feel a lot better about aspartame then. I've been drinking 2 quarts or less a day.

    honestly anything will give you cancer if you eat/consume enough of it, i would just stay awy from regular soda, that will kill you way faster than artificial sweetner

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I've been fighting a similar battle. I'm winning at home(Water or the fairly rare diet pepsi max), but getting my ass kicked at work(Work at a coffee place, have free reign to make as many drinks and eat as many pastries as I want).

    Anyways, I would love to start making fresh fruit drinks. But... where the hell do I start? Orange juice/lemonade is pretty obvious, but is there a fairly cheap way(equipment wise) to make things like apple juice, etc?

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    ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    Get frozen fruit for smoothies. Not only will you not have to add ice to thicken it, but a big bag of stuff lasts much longer than fresh.

    Oh, and frozen fruit and veggies are often fresher than the unfrozen.

    Seconded. However, make sure you get a quality blender. I have broken many a cheap-o blender with frozen strawberries - I ended up getting an industrial strength monster.

    By $15 one dances across the counter if left on it's own, I need an upgrade.
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    Acolyte57Acolyte57 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Raslin wrote: »
    I've been fighting a similar battle. I'm winning at home(Water or the fairly rare diet pepsi max), but getting my ass kicked at work(Work at a coffee place, have free reign to make as many drinks and eat as many pastries as I want).
    Wait, but if you work at a coffee place, doesn't that mean you can get all the free black coffee you want? As strong as you want it? That seems a win/win ;)

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