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If its someone I don't know, they can either pay me for them, or I keep them for myself.
I rarely do business with people I don't know though.
That said, give him one extra if you're feeling jolly. Giving him only the one he expected isn't unreasonable though, by any means, unless he specified that provision before handing you the mats.
This is mostly an Alchemist's problem. Tailors kind of have it too, but most people interested in buying a tailor's transmute cooldown specify beforehand they're looking for a particular spec. As for what you can do, you can either bump up what you charge to transmute because you are Transmute specced, or you can trade Mights for mats and transmute the mats on your own time.
Personally, my alchemist does neither. I use every transmute cooldown on myself. I buy Primal Earths by the stack just to have on hand. For two days, I transmute Earth to Water, then the third day, I round up some cheap green gems and transmute an Earthstorm Diamond. This is mostly because my Jewelcrafter main can cut them and sell them at a further markup, but even uncut Earthstorms go for more than 2 earths, 2 waters, and 9 uncut green gems, and I gain tons of cash if I happen to proc the Earthstorm transmute.
If they want the transmute done then and there (and who is to say your cooldown isn't up yet, and you just happen to have some extra mights on hand?), they can either take their business elsewhere, or work out a 'what happens to potential extras' setup.
Some people give the extras over for free, some charge half price, some full price, etc.
Same with cloth transmutes. If primal mooncloth is selling for 30 gold apiece, and the transmute for one is going for 5, why would I give someone 2 mooncloth for the price of one? Now, if they're willing to tip 20-30 gold (still far cheaper than paying for 2 x materials for 2 x cloth), I'll usually hook them up.
Speaking of which, I might just have to start advertising that in trade chat, as I have 4 spec'd tailors with cooldowns that have gone unused for a while now.
This.
This is how I always handled transmutes, even back in the "Arcanite bar olol" days.
Edit: Or leave the group before you do the transmute. If you're not in the group, they don't get to see how many Primal Mights you made.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
This.
The deal was he gives you the ingredients to make one primal might, you made the primal might and gave it to him. The bonus primal mights are a result of leveling decisions specific to your character, and had you chosen Potion Mastery, his greed and stupidity would have remained hidden that much longer.
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Yes.
Transmute spec procs so rarely.
I'd say that earth to water, mana to fire (if you have it), and earthstorm diamond are the only truly worthwhile transmutes. The AH price of Primal Might is rarely more than just a few gold above the cost of its component Primals, while Primal Water is 10-15g more than the price of Primal Earth, and Earthstorm diamonds are easily worth more than their component pieces before factoring in gem cuts. Every step of the way, you're adding value, and procs just sweeten the deal. If my alchemist were Potion or Elixir specced, Earth to Water would be the only transmute I would ever do unless I were saving Mights for an item I wanted to craft.
Smartest thing you can do, right up there.
Before I hopped on the Epics For Dummies (aka Tailoring) train, I usually made it clear up front who got any extra procs. If I had planned on blowing my cooldown on myself, I'd make sure they knew I'm keeping the extras, or if I wasn't planning on using it immediately (or doing it for someone I knew) I'd usually let them know they could have whatever popped out. Never had any complaints when people knew the deal up front.
I don't know about your server, but on my server, if you add up the price of a Primal Earth, Fire, Wind (sorry, Air), Water, and Heart (sorry, Mana), it's often a break even or a loss to make it into a might and then trying to sell it. Sure, getting a proc off it is wonderous, but farming up or buying 5 primals a day just isn't worth it, in my opinion. I know in the past year I've proc'd enough extra mights to have better than broken even on the 4 I had to spend to get the spec, but it's not a LOT more. Even accounting for regular primal transmutes (FAR more lucrative; why turn 100 gold of materials into a 95 gold Might, when you can turn a 4 gold Primal (Earth) into a 20-25 gold primal (Water)?), I find Transmute spec to be a somewhat frustrating way of spec'ing; it's the only one where you're guaranteed to use it once per day (assuming you can be bothered to at least buy an Earth and make it into a Water), but there is generally no reason whatsoever to ever make anything else. Want potions? Go to a Potion mater. Want flasks/elixirs? Go to an Elixir master.
Sure, you don't LOSE the ability to make potions or elixirs, but assuming you have a friend or guild mate that's either spec (I assume most people do), it's like saying "I don't like free things", and because of the "once a day" approach, your chances of proc'ing extras and making discoveries is significantly lower than the other two.
Days 1 and 2, Primal Mightx2. Ever since then? No procs. 25 days later, I've yet to recoup the cost of specializing. So. Fuck you if you think I'm giving you anything beyond what you gave me mats for.
EDIT: Also, I have a character on Earthen Ring and I can say that the market there is screwed up, like all of the birth servers. On most, Primal Mights remain 15-20g above the price of component primals. On Dark Iron, Mana and Water have both sunk to around 14g, Air is steady at 24g, Fire at 24g, and Earth is 3g. That's 79g mats for Mights that I've been selling for 100g, and I usually farm the stuff myself anyway because I get bored.
I've been Transmute spec'd since around February (or whenever I got my warlock up to 68), and having done a transmute a day (be it earth to water, making a might, or something else) for a good 8 or 9 months now, I'd say that extras proc'd are far rarer than they should be. While I recognize that an increase in proc rates would lower the value of said primals, I wouldn't mind seeing a lowering (or utter removal) of the chance to get x5's or x4's if they dramatically increased the chances of x2's or even x3's. Something to make it feel worthwhile.
As it stands, I pretty much just accept that I'm going to transmute 1 earth into 1 water, or 1 water to 1 air, or 1 air to 1 fire, and a proc is a happy coincidence, but at the end of the day, I don't need to be transmute spec'd in order to turn 1 earth into 1 water, etc, etc, etc.
Since the patch two guys I know have made something like 7 alchemy discoveries. Flasks, transmutes...it's craziness.
It may be worth mentioning that one of these guys is the one who got Midnight a couple of weeks ago, so he's just a lucky bastard all around.
I will say that since the patch, I've gotten like 2 or 3 discoveries as well, being Transmute spec'd and doing just transmutes. It's probably pure coincidence, but it'd be a nice touch to give transmuters a slightly higher chance of discoveries per use, given how rarely they actually get to use that ability, and the propensity for the RNG to fuck us over even harder than potion/elixir masters.
Of note; pre-patch, I hadn't found ANY discoveries, not a single one, so a pair or more in the past week is like the second coming of christ in comparison)
A sign that we should both delete out posts, and never speak of this again.
I want Flask of Relentless Assault! rawr!
I think I've gotten Mana to Fire, Water to Shadow (or something like that), and maybe one other, but I'd have to look at the list in game to be sure.
If he was a guildie, he shouldn't have even had the chance to ask, as they should have been given immediately.
I don't really understand being compelled to give guildies your proc results. You're creating the pots for free already, why give them the benefit of your spec? Blacksmiths and Leatherworkers etc are already getting nifty little self-only benefits from their spec, I'd like to get a benefit from my spec as well. The guildie is not shafted.
Because they're supposed to be your friends? and if not, why are you guilded with them?
Also, tailors and blacksmiths get the benefit of that spec by themselves, they get all the materials. Someone is giving you the crap to make the potions you get even possible, if you don't like that aspect of Alchemy and are that selfish, you should pick up another profession instead.
You still owe me. You are not entitled to my procs unless I decide you are.
Buh? Turn them into major agility pots.
Then use your spec for yourself, if you transmute for a friend, that is what you give up. Also, this does not apply at all to pot or elixir spec, since they have no cooldown.
Eh, I disagree with that. I don't tell guildies that ask for me to make them Primal Mooncloth "sure but I'm keeping the second, that's my cooldown you're using". If I want to use my cooldown, I will. If I don't, it's going to waste, I might aswell give it to someone I don't hate.
All of my in-game friends and guildies benefit from whatever I have to offer. This comes around, like when one just handed me the Battlemaster Enchant.