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BuirseachBuirseach Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Games and Technology
I have a question to ask that I dare not ask in any other gaming site's forum.
To be honest I am still a little trepeditious even here, however I'm hoping that the average level of maturity within the forums will be a reflection of that displayed by the sites protagonists.

My younger brother has Downs syndrome, he's mentally retarded, and has a mental age and understanding capacity of about an 11 year old, and is an avid gamer.

I've got him a Wii for Christmas (queued for 5 hours to get it as well), I know that he'll get along fine with the Wii sports titles, but can anyone else suggest other games that might be appropriate.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited December 2007
    Wario Ware?

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    well, you can't go wrong with the other Wii minigame titles: WiiPlay, Mario/Sonic, Mario Party, WarioWare (maybe).

    I don't have a Wii, so this I'll let the resident board experts have a go.

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Since I don't know how functional your brother is, I can only recommend what an 11 year old would play, which is just about anything on the Wii. It's all appropriate.

    How are his motor skills? I don't see why he couldn't enjoy Zelda TP or Mario Galaxy. I would probably steer clear of anything Trauma Center though. That game is quite frustrating, but good.

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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I imagine the other mini-game based games would be nice.

    WarioWare is the best one, but if that moves too quickly then Mario Party 8 and Rayman: Raving Rabbids are very fun also. Mario Party has the option to practice any of the minigames indefinitely before you do the real thing, so I guess that's an upside, too.

    Other than these I'm not really sure what I would suggest, just not sure what his ceiling would be, sorry if it comes off condescending. I would recommend trying him on Mario Galaxy, since every person with a Wii should own that anyways, fantastic game for you or him.

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  • IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Try the Wii equivalent of XBLA - Virtual Console? Tons of great, simple old games.

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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Iriah wrote: »
    Try the Wii equivalent of XBLA - Virtual Console? Tons of great, simple old games.

    Oh, frick yeah.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wii Play would be a good bet I think, especially since you get an extra controller.

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  • Dareth RamDareth Ram regular
    edited December 2007
    Crashmo wrote: »
    Iriah wrote: »
    Try the Wii equivalent of XBLA - Virtual Console? Tons of great, simple old games.

    Oh, frick yeah.

    Would have to agree. Buy him a few Wii points cards and show him the Virtual Console.

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'd recommend some VC games, but all of the ones I have downloaded might be over his head.

    I don't know if he is up for Shining Force, Landstalker or Actraiser. Hell, I'm not even up for Kid Icarus, but that didn't stop me from buying it anyway.

    Streets of Rage is good for some coop brawling and that music is still catchy!

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  • ROFISHROFISH AnehiixiiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Any kind of fighter is great. It really is just a bunch of button mashing. (But he might pick up the idea that fighting is cool and try to fight people. :/)

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Also, if he likes shows like Naruto, then he'll probably like the Wii Naruto games, those are largely tailored towards children as well (so the difficulty isn't usually all that high).

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wario Ware is actually a pretty bad choice for this case.

    Whats more important than his mental age is his coordination- how are his motor skills effected?

    In reality the Wii is actually a pretty bad choice for people with impaired motor skills- because alot of its games are more motor skills dependent.

    That said most disabled people will absolutely adore wii sports. Kids games are usually a good choice- as are wrestling games as they tend to be quite easy and not too reliant on coordination.

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Can you give us some examples of games that he plays on other systems, that he's already good at? And maybe some examples of ones he can't handle.

    It could help us determine what would be appropriate.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I bet he'd love Excite Truck, it's pretty simple to understand and control and is really, really fun. It's one of my favorites on the Wii.

    I'm hestiant on Wario Ware just because it makes you react so quickly from game to game. Maybe Raving Rabbids as an alternative as it lets you take it one minigame at a time?

    My wife (special ed/psych degree) says that Kororinpa would be good as it moves at a relatively low speed and it's an easy concept - roll a marble into a hole.

    Definately Wii Play - and really with the whole extra controller thing it's hard not to justify owning it.

    Also - especially if he has someone who plays with him with any frequency get him Lego Star Wars - Complete Saga. It's a great game, even better with two players.

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  • BuirseachBuirseach Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    His puzzle solving ability is practically nil.

    His motor skills and coordination are alright though.

    These are all great suggestions, cheers guys, I'll certainly get excite truck, and any kind of straightforward shooter would be good as well I suppose.

    I don't know that he'd be able to operate the virtual console shopping system... I could do it for him when I visit though, he lives 250 miles away with our parents.


    Since I don't know how functional your brother is, I can only recommend what an 11 year old would play, which is just about anything on the Wii. It's all appropriate.

    How are his motor skills? I don't see why he couldn't enjoy Zelda TP or Mario Galaxy. I would probably steer clear of anything Trauma Center though. That game is quite frustrating, but good.

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  • ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    For some reason, the thought of you buying a Wii for your mentally retarded brother, and knowing he will love it and use it nearly to its full potential, is so heartwarming it makes me want to tear up.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Dragon Quest Swords on Wii.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Apparently Soul Calibur legends is pretty easy to control.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zenitram wrote: »
    For some reason, the thought of you buying a Wii for your mentally retarded brother, and knowing he will love it and use it nearly to its full potential, is so heartwarming it makes me want to tear up.


    I hear ya. I'm also quite impressed by the number of people in the thread trying to help out. I love this place.

    That said, to the OP: Have you looked at Cooking Mama or the Wii Zapper that comes with the Legend of Zelda Crossbow game?

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zenitram wrote: »
    For some reason, the thought of you buying a Wii for your mentally retarded brother, and knowing he will love it and use it nearly to its full potential, is so heartwarming it makes me want to tear up.


    I hear ya. I'm also quite impressed by the number of people in the thread trying to help out. I love this place.

    Hey, it's the reason we come here. Anywhere else on the internet you know some idiot would have posted the "Special Olympics" pic and everything would be downhill from there.

    The community here is largely immature, but in a good way. :mrgreen:

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    subedii wrote: »
    The community here is largely immature, but in a good way. :mrgreen:

    Your mum is is largely immature.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    The community here is largely immature, but in a good way. :mrgreen:

    My parts are largely immature.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    As someone w/ Aspergers, I know to ask this question: What's his concentration?

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  • Spacehog85Spacehog85 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    two words.
    Carnival Games. Straight forward, Easy as hell. and actually a lot of fun. although i might be the only person who bought it.
    Also, EA Playground? and If he likes shooters, medal of honor heroes 2, lots of good shooters coming out for wii, ghost squad, resident evil UC. Im pretty sure they are all on rails.

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  • ItalaxItalax Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    What about a Zapper and the Zelda crossbow game that comes with it? It seems pretty simple, just point and shoot, but from what people on the boards have been saying it's a really fun game for saying it's basically a pack-in with the zapper. If he likes it he could use the zapper with Resident Evil UC as well.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    You know, people with autism aren't less skilled. The main difference between people on and off the spectrum is emotional maturity, with those on the higher functioning end actually being found to be smarter than average (we know about Temple Grandin, and suspect Einstein and Bill Gates).

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Scalfin, my friend, you seem to be confusing Pretend Autism with Actual Autism.

    Actual Autism is a certified Not Fun Thing.

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  • ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The only knowledge I have of Asperger's is "Hands" Espenson from Boston Legal.


    Probably not the best source.

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm gonna throw my vote in with the Mario Galaxy crowd. It's a fun game that anyone can enjoy. It may be a bit hard for him, but I think the audience is right around his level. Also, he would probably greatly enjoy the two-player mode if you guys played together.

    Rayman Raving Rabbids is a good choice, as are Excite Truck and Wii Play.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Buirseach wrote: »

    I've got him a Wii for Christmas (queued for 5 hours to get it as well), I know that he'll get along fine with the Wii sports titles, but can anyone else suggest other games that might be appropriate.

    You're an amazing person. No, no, I'm not crying, I just have something in my eye.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I bet he'll get a kick out of the Bleach Fighting game.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    Scalfin, my friend, you seem to be confusing Pretend Autism with Actual Autism.

    Actual Autism is a certified Not Fun Thing.

    So Temple Grandin is faking?
    I have a brother on the lower functioning end of the spectrum and I have already noted that I'm higher functioning, so I think I know something about it.

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  • BigPointyTeethBigPointyTeeth run away! run away! MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'll throw in another vote for Rayman Raving Rabbids. Each mini game is prefaced by a rabbid demonstrating how you play, and there's no puzzles to worry about, at least none that I remember. Also, it has some light gun type games in it as well.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2007
    Autism discussion goes to D&D, please.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    I was trying to make that point so that we include Kingdom Hearts type games, which are hard but good for this sort of thing.

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  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Scalfin wrote: »
    I was trying to make that point so that we include Kingdom Hearts type games, which are hard but good for this sort of thing.

    Except that the person in question has Down's Syndrome which is a lot different than Autism.

    The original poster said that his brother has the mental development of an 11 year old but isn't great with solving puzzles. Thinking back to the games that I played when I was that age most of them were on the NES with some Sierra Adventure (and other computer games) thrown in for good measure. We're talking about the Wii for someone with low puzzle solving skills so games that rely heavily on them are out.

    I'm going to echo what other people have said here and say Mario Galaxy. I'd also think about getting a bunch of Wii points, sitting down with your bro and helping him pick out some VC games. All of the Mario titles on the NES should be appropriate and you'll find a lot of other, similar platformers there as well. Just be sure that you also pick up a classic controller and possibly a Gamecube Controller. Speaking of, you may want to check out some of the kid oriented titles on the 'cube. I'm not sure what's out there since my Gamecube selection is pretty small...

    "On Rails" shooters could also be fun so maybe pick up the zapper?

    Thinking about price and games I'd think that you'd probably want to give him a large variety of games to play so the VC might be the best way to go, unless you have a large budget for this.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    That's a pretty shitty way to make a point that's only tangentially related to the topic.

    That being said, I think he might like Super Paper Mario. It's a fun platformer that is fairly straightforward and the the way that almost every puzzle is solved by just pressing the "A" button.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think Mario Galaxy would be inappropriate.

    I think people are just recommending it because they like it. For someone of the OPS needs it isnt suitable I don't think.

    My nephew has played it and stopped caring 10 minutes in. Sure, Mario appeals but the complexity of the game is certainly challenging.

    Which is why I recommended DQS or Wii Sports.

    Im treading carefully here not to sound offensive, I honestly am not fully aware of the capabilities of the person in question. But if, as mentioned, they are around the 11 year old development than I would suggest a game more action packed and more active to play.

    DQS has been called by Shane Bettenhausen of 1up and EGM a 'game for babies'. He was exagerrating a lot but it has merit.

    The game is simple yet has depth, and the gameplay can be played very fervently and actively, it is simple to control, and much like Legends, it is easy and hard, depending on how much you put in.

    I would recommend it very much for the situation the OP is in. I wouldnt say Mario was too hard or hard to understand, I just think other games would be more fun, and Im not insinuating that the person cant 'handle' Mario, They could easily. But I think the time you would need to put in and the way you play the game, which is very focussed and methodical compared to some other games on Wii, makes it a bad choice.

    Again, Im basing this only off my own experiences with my Nephew. Mario certainly is fun for all ages but I dont think it is the most fun someone of that position could have.

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  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Trevor wrote: »
    That's a pretty shitty way to make a point that's only tangentially related to the topic.

    That being said, I think he might like Super Paper Mario. It's a fun platformer that is fairly straightforward and the the way that almost every puzzle is solved by just pressing the "A" button.


    Did the OP mention anything about reading ability/comprehension? That might be an issue for some games...

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Tw4win wrote: »
    Trevor wrote: »
    That's a pretty shitty way to make a point that's only tangentially related to the topic.

    That being said, I think he might like Super Paper Mario. It's a fun platformer that is fairly straightforward and the the way that almost every puzzle is solved by just pressing the "A" button.


    Did the OP mention anything about reading ability/comprehension? That might be an issue for some games...

    I thought about that for a second and realized the game would probably be a lot more enjoyable if you didn't have to read all that horrible drivel they stuffed the fun gameplay with. That being said, I can't remember if any of the text actually leads to anything like solving puzzles or if the game is as intuitive as I remember it. It's a good point and something that you might want to look up.

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