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[EVE] - TRINITY EXPANSION KILLING WINDOWS

zeroomegazxzeroomegazx Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in MMO Extravaganza
Please read the link to the following EVE forum post. The Trinity expansion is killing WINDOWS XP INSTALLS. This has been confirmed by CCP and they are working on a fix.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=651679

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Yeah, a pretty big fuckup there CCP

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  • zeroomegazxzeroomegazx Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zzulu wrote: »
    Yeah, a pretty big fuckup there CCP

    No fucking shit, I didnt want to comment in the main post I made, but WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANY GAME NEED TO TOUCH YOUR FUCKING BOOT.INI?????? (The Trinity Expansion hoses your BOOT.INI for those who havent read yet)

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    IIRC Myth back in the day would format your hard drive if you tried to uninstall it.

    Pretty sweet.

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  • OctoparrotOctoparrot Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    WELL ITS A GOOD THING I HAVENT UPDATED IT ON MY WORK COMPUTER YET

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  • WavechaserWavechaser Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    MOAR CAPS PLZ

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2007
    This has to be deliberate sabotage. Accidentally picking just that file to kill? I doubt CCP has that much incompetence.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    That...is one impressive screw up.

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  • SelnerSelner Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I saw somewhere that for whatever reason there's an EVE file named boot.ini. It's apparenlty always been there. But with this update, someone forgot to put the path on it (left out the variable I imagine).

    Why they would have a file with the same name as an important file, I have no clue.

    And another question, why would Windows let the file be overwritten? Should it be locked or something?

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    How could something like this get through testing?

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It's ccp we're talking about here

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  • OctoparrotOctoparrot Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    New EVE is just a ploy to increase demand for EVE Classic.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2007
    bootini.jpg

    edit: oh shit, huge'd image.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Epic Lulz

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wow, this is like a game-ending kind of screw up huh?

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The guy who designed the installer is going to get so much shit for this

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zzulu wrote: »
    The guy who designed the installer is going to get so much shit for this

    He wants to taste the curb!

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  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Yep, the premium client installer is overwriting boot.ini, which will prevent your system from rebooting. See the second post of the G&T Eve thread for instructions on how to prevent or correct the problem.

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  • HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    OK, massive dumbass screwup by CCP, yeah. But what I want to know is:

    EVE Classic? EVE Premium? Huh? Is there some new tiered payment system now? Or did they just name the fancy new graphics engine Premium because they are tin-eared when it comes to marketing?

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  • NATIKNATIK DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Tin-eared, no tiers.

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  • nialscorvanialscorva Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    So did any BoB members get their hard drives erased, cause, you know, T20...

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The issue is, EVE has its own boot.ini for determining what graphics options to use and whatnot. The installer is supposed to delete the old version of EVE's boot.ini but someone messed up the command line and welp.

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  • Tumbler 360Tumbler 360 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    HarshLanguage wrote: »
    OK, massive dumbass screwup by CCP, yeah. But what I want to know is:

    EVE Classic? EVE Premium? Huh? Is there some new tiered payment system now? Or did they just name the fancy new graphics engine Premium because they are tin-eared when it comes to marketing?


    Eve Premium is just an extra download, like High Res textures for everything. It's free, after you install the game it will have the option to download the premium content.

    Calling it premium was silly, it makes it sound like it requires an extra cost.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Holy balls CCP is fucked

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Echo wrote: »
    This has to be deliberate sabotage. Accidentally picking just that file to kill? I doubt CCP has that much incompetence.

    They do. Rather than use normal file paths like C:\Program Files\blahblah\boot.ini, they set the current directory to the EVE directory and then use relative paths. Except on boot.ini, there was an extra slash before the path.
    Scooter wrote: »
    How could something like this get through testing?

    Testers like to test with strange configurations, to trip up lazy programmers using hard-coded paths. If they tested using a non-boot drive, this problem wouldn't have been obvious.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wow. There is literally no reason whatsoever that any game install should lay a finger on boot.ini. Hell, I don't know what would be worse - a rogue developer getting away with a malicious attack in the install, or a retarded developer deciding to replace boot.ini for whatever reason and then horribly fucking it up.

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm not trying to excuse what they did, just offer a possible explanation for how you can write a patcher that deletes vital OS boot files.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2007
    Heh. It's true what they say: any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    In a way this is all deeply funny, a few years ago I tried Eve but just couldn't find myself getting into it. It was originally sold to me (by a friend) as a multiplayer Elite, you can imagine my disappointment.

    In the last month or two i'd been thinking of giving it another go since it's been a few years and they may have fixed the niggles that I had. But then this comes out. I can't help and sit back laughing that the decision I made was somehow the best one to take.

    Of course, it's not funny to those who've had their boot.ini's deleted.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    the best part is that a tester saw the problem 2 days before the launch, and posted the issue on the forums

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Haha! They are freaking burned on that one.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zzulu wrote: »
    the best part is that a tester saw the problem 2 days before the launch, and posted the issue on the forums

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    Quoting failure

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Echo wrote: »
    Heh. It's true what they say: any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

    I love that quote, and hence, I love you (though I still miss the old, sultry woman in a hat Avatar).

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  • ThaumaturgistThaumaturgist Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I break for two weeks and CCP sets us up the bomb...

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    CCP just wanted to give the Linux and Mac players a chance to get established before the Windows veterans came in and vaporized their hard-earned ISK in two shots.

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  • BrynjBrynj Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    This was not the solution to fix the node stability problems that the players were looking for.

    A Solution? Sure. Kicking half your users to the curb works, but I think people wanted a fix that still let them play ;-)

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  • Ti NsiTi Nsi Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    saved by my radeon 9600

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Out of all the fuck ups MMOs have when they patch this one has to be the biggest grats to CCP it's gonna be hard to top that.

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I dunno, AC2 fucked up pretty bad when they KILLED THEIR ENTIRE GAME in one patch. At least the boot.ini thing is fixable, and the game content will still be there after fixing it.

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    Out of all the fuck ups MMOs have when they patch this one has to be the biggest grats to CCP it's gonna be hard to top that.

    New Game Enhancements

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