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The marriage night (what to expect and how to deal with it)

ChestertonChesterton Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So, this is a somewhat awkward question, and for the sake of my own dignity I will reassure you that you are not my only resource in this matter. However, since this tends to be something that you don't just talk about freely among friends and acquaintances, I've only got a couple of perspectives on this from my closest friends, and I thought I would anonymously cast the net wider for any advice/experiences that could be helpful.

I am to be married in a month. Both my fiancee and I are virgins, and a long time ago, we made the conscious decision to keep it that way until after we're married. (We have a variety of reasons for this, but that's not really what I'm asking about)

Just for background... we haven't had normal intercourse, we haven't really engaged in any other sort of sexual activity. Clothes have never come off, we've never explicitly touched eachother in a sensitive place. Within these constrants, however, we are very intimate and enjoy being near eachother physically. I'm really not worried that we'll be attractive to eachother in that way... we have actually both, unintentionally, orgasmed while making out, me from mostly accidental friction to the right areas, her, I think, just from heavy kissing and such on face, neck, shoulders, arms, ect.

Now, I know it will be rather awkward and by no means great sex at first. That kind of comes with the territory, and we've accepted that. I fully realize that I will likely be done within three seconds of her touching me, and that it'll take a while to get used to things. This is fine - we both know we have the rest of our lives to get good at it, and it's still going to be extraordinarily amazing and special to just be together and fully intimate with no inhibitions. I'm not so much asking for sex technique tips - I rather look forward to figuring all that out, together with her. We've definitely talked about it, and she shares this opinion.

But what would like to know is how I can make it easier for her - she is quite worried that it's going to be very painful. I knew some pain was involved, the first time or two, but she's been hearing some horror stories from the occasional sister and friend. Evidently it was quite an ordeal, for one of her sisters, for the first couple months, and another of her friends, I hear, described the pain of first intercourse as "agonizing."

So... is this true, is it true only for some people, and if so how can I make it easier? I know we're not necessarily going to have great sex, but I want it to be at least special and somewhat pleasurable, rather than something she'll look back on as a completely unpleasant experience. I thought, from my rudimentary knowledge of biology, that it was the hymen tearing that caused the pain, but she seems worried simply about size factors, too. I'll probably discretely have something we can use as lubrication nearby, just in case that becomes an issue. But beyond that... yeah. What sort of experience can she expect, and how can I make it better?

Thanks... I know it's somewhat of an odd question, but I hope some of you won't mind enlightening me just a bit.

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  • CoJoeTheLawyerCoJoeTheLawyer Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    LUBE.

    It's always a good idea to have a bottle of lube on-hand, just in case. That will help a lot with it. There might be some stretching of the vaginal walls, but unless she is really tight, she'll be fine. Just take it slow and both of you have fun.

    Congrats on the wedding!

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  • HamjuHamju Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Hey, congrats on getting married and being able to hold out for that long!

    Get some KY Jelly and go SLOOOOW. Just feel it out. The first time I had sex we had done a lot of other stuff (like fingering) so she was very "worked in" already. If she has never had anything inside of her than it will be painful. Be mindful of this. Make sure it's ok for her and just take it slow. Make foreplay last a really long time and it will be all the better.

    The first time my wife and I had sex it was quite painful for her because she's a very small lady. It took about half an hour to get it in the first time, but that's what was needed. You might be surprised at how slow you might have to be.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I fully realize that I will likely be done within three seconds of her touching me

    Or it won't work at all.

    This happens too, sometimes.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If you want to make it easy on her, you could always get her some toys to loosen up with. Pain during sex is usually a result of nervousness or a massive penis. As you aren’t claiming the latter, the former seems like your real worry, and if she can get familiar with her anatomy it will make things a lot easier.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    "dang, that is pretty warm"

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    I fully realize that I will likely be done within three seconds of her touching me

    Or it won't work at all.

    This happens too, sometimes.

    Yeah, equally possible.

    Use lube, condoms if you want to. Take your time. I mean, really take your time. Realize that it might take like a week of tries to successfully get it up there, let alone be pleasurable for the both of you. Don't skimp on the foreplay. Experiment with oral.

    Overall have fun, kids.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Just don't expect the first time to be particularly fun for any party involved.

    EDIT: you might not want to start with penile penetration. try something less invasive first. I can imagine that going from absolutely nothing up in dis ever to a wang would be quite a change

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Foreplay. Lots of it.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    On a slightly different path, intercourse may not happen that night. It's not unheard of for people to end up exhausted on one's wedding night. It will be a long day, even if you're the kind of groom that has nothing to do with planning or events during day. It's not abnormal at all for either party to just fall asleep.

    And remember that good lovers are made, not born. Be willing to try things and you may be surprised at the results.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    There are numerous tips for making a sex life more interesting and open, such as leaving the lights on, having sex in new places, and whatever. As a first time, especially a first time that is going to be very nervous as a wedding night, I would suggest you both focus on things that make you comfortable. Since you've not even been naked together, perhaps you shouldn't even have sex on your wedding night. No one's going to be there to say you're doing something wrong, after all.

    Your wedding night should be a night of becoming familiar with each other, and that doesn't just mean sexual parts. I would suggest keeping the lights low, and starting under the covers, snuggling together. Get used to feeling each other's bodies and don't jump into anything. By being intimate slowly and becoming more comfortable with each other's bodies (and more importantly being naked in front of each other), you should gradually both want to have sex, and it should feel much more natural and pleasant for both of you.

    Just remember that there's nothing wrong with waiting and there's nothing wrong with not having sex on the first wedding night -- you've got plenty of nights and days afterwards, after all.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You know...on your wedding night, you might want to keep things simple. No toys, no lube, just go slow, be caring. If she doesn't self lubricate very well, just hold off and let her know it's OK. If you have trouble getting an erection, or orgasm early, that's OK, too. Just go back to the foreplay. I wouldn't even put any pressure on yourself to have sex. If you jump right into it it will probably turn out bad the first few times.

    If you take it slow and just show her how much you care about her, using your body, even if the intercourse doesn't turn out so hot, she'll have a positive memory of that.

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  • AthlantarAthlantar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If you two have never spent any time naked together you will have alot of fun with one another.

    DO NOT. I repeat DO NOT force the night into anything that either of you aren't ready for. Its nobodys business what you two do or do not do. Alot of outside pressure on something that involves only two people will usually make it really awkward.

    Just enjoy one another, whether that means oral, mutual masturbation, or sex. Like you've said, you've got the rest of your lives to enjoy one another. Take it slow, tell her what you like, have her tell you what she likes. Enjoy the night, because it's one of few where the two of you will be the only people in the entire world that you need to be concerned about.

    Hope the advice helps (And don't worry about asking us PA'ers for help. Its kind of what we do), have a great night sir. Congrats! =)

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Recommending that virgins not use lube the first time they have sex because it's not "simple" is something like saying that we shouldn't get vaccinations because they're not "natural."
    If she doesn't self lubricate very well, just hold off and let her know it's OK.
    That unfairly places a huge burden on her. Lubrication for women isn't a switch, it's a complicated physiological reaction that doesn't always correlate precisely (or even at all) with arousal. If she's stressing out about the whole thing already because she's nervous that it will hurt, it's entirely possible that she won't get wet, even if the OP is pressing all the right buttons in every other way. And if she gets all worked up, decides she really wants to go for it, and he takes one feel and says "Oh, hon, you're just not wet enough for me to do this. We'd better wait," she's going to feel terrible. She'll feel guilty, inadequate, she'll wonder if there's something wrong with her. This is especially likely because they haven't fooled around much yet, and I'm guessing she's not really big on masturbation either. If she doesn't know what's normal, being told "We can't have sex right now and it's your stupid vagina's fault" will fuck her up right good no matter how nicely and lovingly it's phrased.

    I'd agree that you don't want to be breaking out an outlet-powered vibrator or the Great American Challenge on your wedding night for your virgin wife's pleasure, but for the love of God, use lube. There is nothing shameful in it, there is nothing dirty or slutty about it, using lube doesn't mean that you fail at having sex. It just makes things *better* for everyone involved.

    My advice: work up to it. If she's OK with the idea of you going down on her, do that - if you can get her off that way, even better. Then fingers, preferably lubed, to stretch her a bit. If she can handle (and enjoy) two fingers, then you can try for the main event.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Lube is fine, I just think that if they've never been NAKED with anyone before it might be embarrassing for them at first not only to buy it but also to use it and maybe that's something they don't want to deal with at first.

    And who knows, they might just be wasting money if she doesn't need it at all.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    As7 wrote: »
    Lube is fine, I just think that if they've never been NAKED with anyone before it might be embarrassing for them at first not only to buy it but also to use it and maybe that's something they don't want to deal with at first.

    Buying and using lube is a hell of a lot less embarrassing than having sex for the first time. And I would imagine that most virgin guys know how to use it anyway.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'll give my advice based on my experience.

    My wife and I were also both virgins.

    We talked about our wedding night for some time, and eventually decided on not forcing (sic) the issue.

    I will second (third, fourth, fifth, whatever) the requirement of lube.

    On our wedding night, we didn't even have sex. We just had a lot of foreplay, spent a long time "exploring" each other, and talked about what felt good and what didn't. We ended up actually having sex the next morning. It was awkward, and painful for her. But it was special.


    We read the book "Sheet Music" about a month beforehand. It's Christian themed, but I really liked how it detailed everything about sex.

    I guess the best advice is to just relax, talk about stuff, lots of foreplay, and don't rush anything.

    Oh, and DON'T WORRY. Anxiety makes it harder on her. :)

    Good luck man, and congrats!

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  • kathoskathos Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You're in for a wonderful journey. Good luck.

    Also getting naked in the darks helps alleviate stress.

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  • Bryse EayoBryse Eayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Seriously? I suggest going back home/to the hotel/whatever and just.. relax. This whole ordeal shouldn't be about the sex, you guys just got married. I mean if she's raring to go then, hell, get to it. But chances are she isn't. So I'd say do something specifically relaxing, and what is more relaxing then a warm shower?

    I think one of the more romantic and just simple, nice things you can do is wash and talk to each other. Talk about all the things that happened during the big day, talk about what's next, the honey moon, going back to work, anything. It can be utterly sexual and a complete turn on or if that isn't going so well it can simply be a bonding experience

    It introduces you to the other's body in a way that completely takes away all expectations. And to me, this is the most dangerous thing on "first times". Trying to anticipate all the little details can.. work against you. I mean you're sticking things in places... when taken out of context sex is pretty much a joke.

    So I suggest showering and talking and playing it thoroughly by ear. You'll figure the way two of you like it quickly enough.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Bryse Eayo wrote: »
    Seriously? I suggest going back home/to the hotel/whatever and just.. relax. This whole ordeal shouldn't be about the sex, you guys just got married. I mean if she's raring to go then, hell, get to it. But chances are she isn't. So I'd say do something specifically relaxing, and what is more relaxing then a warm shower?

    I think one of the more romantic and just simple, nice things you can do is wash and talk to each other. Talk about all the things that happened during the big day, talk about what's next, the honey moon, going back to work, anything. It can be utterly sexual and a complete turn on or if that isn't going so well it can simply be a bonding experience

    It introduces you to the other's body in a way that completely takes away all expectations. And to me, this is the most dangerous thing on "first times". Trying to anticipate all the little details can.. work against you. I mean you're sticking things in places... when taken out of context sex is pretty much a joke.

    So I suggest showering and talking and playing it thoroughly by ear. You'll figure the way two of you like it quickly enough.

    I completely agree. We took a bath that evening after "playing around" for a while. Was so relaxing, and quite romantic. Taking a bath in a huge tub while sipping wine? Awesome.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm sure this is somewhere in your plans, but make sure you're going to be alone and comfortable. That is to say, don't plan on staying the night at someone else's place rather then a hotel or one of your homes where you can be alone. You want to be able to shut the door and know that you aren't going to be interrupted. This all aids in the relaxation and therefore the enjoyment. Like others said, don't rush anything, whatever happens, happens. Just plan on both of you enjoying yourselves.

    Congrats, I'd say let us know how it goes, but it's none of our (or anyone else's) damn business. ;)

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    One of the things I don't see mentioned that should be pointed out to possibly expect and may need to reassure her about. Don't be surprised about a little performance anxiety. It happens, especially on the first time because guys can tend to put a lot of pressure on themselves. However, you'll have something else working against you. Don't be surprised if you're just too tired. Most of the people I know who have gotten married did not have sex on their wedding night (admittedly, it was a little different in that they had already slept together before). The biggest complaint is that with the pressure of the wedding and the reception and getting dragged around and talking to everyone and the drinking, they were just too damn tired by the end of the night to want to have sex. Just keep this in mind and don't be surprised about it.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    Don't automatically assume that you'll go off like a rocket, especially if you're used to pleasing yourself (this goes for both of you). Also, don't get drunk. I'm with pretty much everyone above otherwise; there's no rush. Just fool around, and make sure your lady isn't under the impression that you want to rush in - I'm willing to bet she is assuming that you'll consummate that night, and it may be worrying her a little. Performance anxiety sucks, so let her know that you're fine with taking things slower. Its not like you're living in 'display the bloody sheet to the family the next morning' territory, its nobody's business what you do or don't do.

    Also, there are some things to watch out for ladywise. One, there might not be any bleeding at all - hymens are extremely variable, and can range from almost non-existent to 'requires surgical intervention before menses can exit' - this is something you really need to talk about, because if its particularly thick there'll be more than 'a little pain' involved. Also, they're often easily broken by hand or by non-sexual physical activity, so don't go thinking something is wrong if she doesn't bleed or experience pain. Leaping to 'she's a whore' is a mistake that has been made by the ill-informed :(. Other than that, take your time, and don't go poking around too hard down there :P there's a fine line etc

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    Also, don't get drunk.

    Well, don't get drunk as in pissed out of your skulls, but having a few can as per usual loosen inhibitions and make both of you less nervous, since it's what you primarily seem to be concerned with. Also, unless you are teetotal or a teenage couple, not having a drink at your wedding reception is somewhat unlikely.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    +1000 on lube. And condoms shouldn't even be a question. Unless you're willing to start procreating right away, USE THEM.

    Have fun. The vagina is an adventure.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Have fun. The vagina is an adventure.

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    +1000 on lube. And condoms shouldn't even be a question. Unless you're willing to start procreating right away, USE THEM.

    Muh? There are several other forms of contraception which are perfectly effective, less problematic to first-timers, and which affect the experience less than condoms. The major benefit of condoms aside from standard contraception is that they are a easy & reliable form of STD prevention when either of you have previous / multiple partners, which presumably isn't an issue here.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    In the general stress of the moment (this obviously means a lot, you've been waiting a long time etc.) you might become impotent. So be ready for that.

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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'd also like to re-iterate that there is no such thing as using too much lube. Lube is also a good idea if you're exploring each other with fingers/etc.
    Also, while you're considering all these things regarding her, think about yourself as well.


    Your penis might not get hard on command. Just like anxiety will effect her, it is going to effect you as well. Don't stress out if you won't come to attention when needed, if you just enjoy yourself and do foreplay it'll happen soon enough.

    Like The Cat said, don't assume you're going to go off early. A lot of guys don't orgasm their first time, or they take an extremely long time to orgasm. This is also entirely normal. If you don't orgasm your first night (or even during the first week), don't worry about it. It will come in time.

    Prepare some contraceptive in advance. Pills, shot, condom, anything. If you're using a condom and are worried about being too sensitive, don't ever "double bag;" it's just a terrible idea all around. If you're using a condom and feel insensitive, a couple of drops inside the condom will make it feel much better.

    This last suggestion may be a bit controversial, but I'd also personally suggest some sort of sex education video or at least a guidebook beforehand. Nothing you learn from it is really going to prepare you for sex, per-se, but it ought to have helpful tips that might not be easy to pick up intuitively at first. My first girlfriend and I learned about cervical bruising the hard way (which doesn't necessarily have to do with intensity, just not fitting together quite right). And until I watched an instructional video, I always assumed that when I was going for the g-spot I had missed and hit the bladder instead (the sensation of needing to urinate is a side effect of stimulating it).

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  • cyphrcyphr Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    zerg rush wrote: »
    It will come in time.
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    The only thing I have to add is that communication is key. Talk about what you want, what she wants, what you're both comfortable with, and anything else. It's absolutely necessary, and it's so much easier to figure out what works and what doesn't if you tell each other, rather than trying to interpret grunts and moans in the heat of the moment.

    Don't even worry about talking about sex immediately, either. As others have mentioned, just relaxing and enjoying the company and intimacy of each other is what it's all about. Take a bubble bath, sip some wine and talk about your favorite moments of the day, and you'll naturally flow into whatever you two feel like doing.

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