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Sega updates and protects Dreamcast trademark... Dreamcast 2 anyone?

MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Games and Technology
Rumor Is Sega Working On Dreamcast 2?
Back in August, Sega filed an application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark office to protect the Dreamcast trademark. Now their original filing is good until December of 2009, this new filing has added some new terms to the mix that are sparking speculation of a Dreamcast 2 being in the cards. From the filing:

home video game machines; player-operated electronic controllers for electronic video game machines; video game interactive controller, namely, hand held pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer cursor control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; video game software, computer game programs

While most of the devices listed could easily relate to the original Dreamcast, flash memory cards and floor mats were never a part of the company's machine. Could Sega be quietly getting ready to re-enter the console business?

An interesting little rumor from Kotaku.

Full article here:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/is-sega-working-on-dreamcast-2-330869.php

What do you guys think about a Dreamcast 2? I say FUCK YEAH.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    9th of September 2009. Believe.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    I cannot wait!

    Speaking of which, reminds me of my old boss when I worked for EBgames. He got a call from some kid asking for Seamen and he hung up on the dude and unplugged the phone until we told him it was an actual game. :lol:

    I miss those times.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Or it could just mean they don't want to pull a nintendo, let their patents lapse, and have a dozen knock off famicom systems and super famicom systems flooding the market and killing all collector value and the Wii's VC market.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    They didn't file a patent at all. Title is totally false.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Or it could just mean they don't want to pull a nintendo, let their patents lapse, and have a dozen knock off famicom systems and super famicom systems flooding the market and killing all collector value and the Wii's VC market.
    Patents are not perpetual. They run out after a set time. You can't renew them.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Um, the dreamcast absolutely had a floor mat. Samba de Amigo anyone?

    And the VMU's used flash memory.

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  • MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    They didn't file a patent at all. Title is totally false.
    Title fixed.

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Not Angry... Just VERY Disappointed...Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'd want nothing more. Honestly. I loved my Dreamcast until they stopped making games, and I still get use out of it.

    But let's be honest with ourselves here, Sega making the Dreamcast 2 is highly unlikely. Their big title games have mostly gone to shit, and trying to edge themselves into the current console market (which will likely have the big three well into the next iteration) would be a stupider move than releasing at a half-generation point just before the PS2.

    Still, we can dream on, I guess...

    Edit: See Amateurhour above for Occam's razor.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    They renewed the trademark to keep other (shady) companies from using the Dreamcast name for accessories, etc.

    Sorry, Sega is never going to field another console. They make much more money making games for everyone else.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    There will never be a DC 2.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Why would they name their next console after a failed console whose fanbase mostly just includes some hardcore gamers?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'd want nothing more. Honestly. I loved my Dreamcast until they stopped making games, and I still get use out of it.

    But let's be honest with ourselves here, Sega making the Dreamcast 2 is highly unlikely. Their big title games have mostly gone to shit, and trying to edge themselves into the current console market (which will likely have the big three well into the next iteration) would be a stupider move than releasing at a half-generation point just before the PS2.

    Still, we can dream on, I guess...

    Edit: See Amateurhour above for Occam's razor.

    but would it be stupider than releasing a game about a 'darker' version of Sonic that wields a gun?

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  • ZombierasputinZombierasputin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ahh, the days of being the only person on the block with Soul Calibur...

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    They didn't file a patent at all. Title is totally false.
    Title fixed.
    Still wrong.

    They updated the trademark which is completely and totally different from the patent.

    Patents protect inventions, so the patent for the dreamcast would protect the actual inner workings of the machine.

    Trademarks are names, so the trademarks to the dreamcast it the actual name "dreamcast" and the little swirly thing.

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Not Angry... Just VERY Disappointed...Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kagera wrote: »
    I'd want nothing more. Honestly. I loved my Dreamcast until they stopped making games, and I still get use out of it.

    But let's be honest with ourselves here, Sega making the Dreamcast 2 is highly unlikely. Their big title games have mostly gone to shit, and trying to edge themselves into the current console market (which will likely have the big three well into the next iteration) would be a stupider move than releasing at a half-generation point just before the PS2.

    Still, we can dream on, I guess...

    Edit: See Amateurhour above for Occam's razor.

    but would it be stupider than releasing a game about a 'darker' version of Sonic that wields a gun?

    I'm afraid I can't compare in that case. That particular move is well beyond the limits of detection on my idiotometer.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    There is already a Seaman 2.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    There is already a Seaman 2.

    Seaman 3-Sum ?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    There is already a Seaman 2.

    I MUST HAVE THIS GAME.....

    But I doubt it was ported to the US :(

    I wish I could bathe in the ambiance of Seamen too...I mean 2.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    There is already a Seaman 2.

    games that didn't get released here in America (fuck yeah!) simply don't count.

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  • MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    They didn't file a patent at all. Title is totally false.
    Title fixed.
    Still wrong.

    They updated the trademark which is completely and totally different from the patent.

    Patents protect inventions, so the patent for the dreamcast would protect the actual inner workings of the machine.

    Trademarks are names, so the trademarks to the dreamcast it the actual name "dreamcast" and the little swirly thing.


    Title fixed again. O_o

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2007
    Boy, last night my friends and I just blew the cobwebs off their Dreamcast for like the first time in six years to rock some Marvel vs. Capcom and Virtua Tennis, and as I sit here with my hands bent into unrecognizable, claw-like shapes and my wrists aching like motherfuckers, I finally begin to grasp why the system might not have done so hot.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Every Dreamcast owner has that kind of problem. Its the 'SEGA Claw'

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I never had a problem with the Dreamcast controller

    that I remember at least. It could have been so horrible I've blocked it out.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Making a Dreamcast 2 would be RETARDED for Sega, and it wouldn't be great for gamers either.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Now, now, the controller wasn't that bad.

    Although, when fucking Mad Catz makes a more ergonomic controller than the first party one, you know something wrong happened somewhere.

    (yes, I know the Mad Catz DC controller was bigger than the fucking Duke, but it's just so comfortable, even if the VMU and Jump Pack both fall out if the thing uses any rumble.)

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    But all Sega has been putting out is crap, as of late. Why would we want a Dreamcast 2 if it was filled with crap?

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2007
    I think it's just not made for adult-sized hands. Holding it means bending your wrists inwards and your hands outwards, like this: > <

    Also the D-pad scraped up my thumb something fierce.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    A_ccualt wrote: »
    But all Sega has been putting out is crap, as of late. Why would we want a Dreamcast 2 if it was filled with crap?

    so the Sega crap would be concentrated on one console and we wouldn't have to see it.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kagera wrote: »
    I never had a problem with the Dreamcast controller

    that I remember at least. It could have been so horrible I've blocked it out.

    It was big. I don't exactly have large hands, but I didn't have a problem with it, though I know people who said they did. If I remember right, it was slightly larger than the original Xbox controller. The one designed for silverback gorillas instead of humans.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kagera wrote: »
    A_ccualt wrote: »
    But all Sega has been putting out is crap, as of late. Why would we want a Dreamcast 2 if it was filled with crap?

    so the Sega crap would be concentrated on one console and we wouldn't have to see it.

    :^:

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  • LynxLynx Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Guys, guys. . .of course they're making a Dreamcast 2. Any other console wouldn't be able to hold the sheer awesomitity of launch games Shenmue 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 3. I'm also hearing rumors of a NiGHTS 3, another Panzer Dragoon , and a remake (and reboot) of the original Sonic the Hedgehog, ditching all extraneous characters that are not Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik (Not Eggman), Metal Sonic, Amy and Shadow (Hey, there has to be bad news, too, right?)

    Personally, I'm holding out hope for another Rival Schools.

    ;-)

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  • UberEvUberEv Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kagera wrote: »
    titmouse wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    There is already a Seaman 2.

    I MUST HAVE THIS GAME.....

    But I doubt it was ported to the US :(

    I wish I could bathe in the ambiance of Seamen too...I mean 2.


    The Seaman 2 boxart was made especially for you. In big letters on the front it says "DON'T PANIC!". I see it every time I go to the Yamada Denki and chuckle.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Didn't I just read this thread at NeoGAF? (like, identical comments, and everything. shit really confused me for a second.)



    If you read the document, it's pretty clear that they are just updating their ownership of the name to prevent other people from using it on any of a variety of different items. They aren't planning on creating some kind of crazy system incorporating ALL of those features.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Hevach wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    the original Xbox controller. The one designed for silverback gorillas instead of humans.

    The CDE begs to differ.

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  • ParkingtigersParkingtigers Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Seamen 2: The Re-Seamening!

    Seaman 2: Second Cumming?

    Oh god that's good. Thread winnar!

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm thinking DC games are going to become downloadable on one of the current home consoles.

    Either that or Sega is planning some kind of silly DC relaunch (like the Nintendo iQue).

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  • oddmentoddment Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    With the 360 having Xbox Originals, with game file sizes of 1GB upward, it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they may launch a Dreamcast service. Now THAT would be a service I'd pay for. Especially if they do what they should have done with Originals and put in acheivements. Also, they could bring back the online favourites, like PSO and ChuChu Rocket! but with voice chat. And I can just see ChuChu having cam support so you can see the faces of your opponents as you direct several cats right into their rockets. Awesome.

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  • TheMorningStarTheMorningStar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm thinking DC games are going to become downloadable on one of the current home consoles.

    Either that or Sega is planning some kind of silly DC relaunch (like the Nintendo iQue).

    either one of these would be awesome.

    One of by biggest fears is my DreamCast dieing one day and not being able to find another one.

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  • GeeeeeoffGeeeeeoff Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ehh...they're just protecting their intellectual property. I doubt Sega can even afford to make a console.

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