[Tourny On!] THE MOTHERSHIP HAS ARRIVED (BSF)

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(Thats a movie in a .rar, download it.)
First Arcadia Battleships Forever Assault the Mothership

Rules
The mothership is attacking the Earth homeland. Your job is to build one of the 8 battleships that will attempt to defend Earth and save up from the Alien menace. There were also be an unlimited number of alternates, in case one player cannot submit his ship by the decided date, or in case we need more battleships to defend the Earth.

The movie is the only intel you have on the Alien Mothership.

Each player can spend up to 100 points on their entry.

For reference: Descriptions of weapons and modules.

Building your ship

The first task before you is to choose a ship class. This will affect all aspects of your ship, due to the variance in cost between the classes. These classes are Battleship, Cruiser, & Frigate.

Once you have chosen your ship’s class, it will dictate how you spend the points allotted for the tournament. Each faucet of the ship has a cost associated which is based upon the ships size.

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Attribute--|--Battleship---|----Cruiser----|----Frigate----
Core HP    | 1 point/50    |  1 points/25  | 1 point/10
Base HP    |      500      |      400      |    300
Max Speed  | 1 points/0.10 | 1 points/0.15 | 1 points/0.20
Accelerate | 1 points/0.01 | 1 points/0.02 | 1 points/0.05
Turning    | 1 points/0.08 | 1 points/0.14 | 1 points/0.20
Sections   | 1 points/2    | 1 points/1    | 2 points/1
Sec.HP Base|      200      |      150      |      100
Sec.HP Add | 1 points/250  | 1 points/200  | 1 point/150

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While looking at the blank ship, set the Core’s HP to the Base HP value that appears in the column of the ship class you have chosen, and the Max Speed, Acceleration, and Turning to zero. From here you should decide how many points you plan to allocate to the basics of the ship.

You can spend as many points on these attributes and have as many sections as you can afford. As you buy sections, you should set their Custom HP to the value listed in the Sec.HP Base row so that you don’t forget to do it later. You may want to consider strategically beefing up certain sections, though in most cases it’s better to just add ablative sections meant to be lost.

Keep in mind, though, that you will have a set number of points, and no battle was ever won purely by defensive measures.

As far as AI goes, any AI can be selected and any AI Range set. Keep in mind that the AI Range is the distance your ship will try to keep between its core and the enemy’s, so it really should be no farther than your shortest ranged weapon. Though weapons mounted father back than the core will have their effective range reduced.

At this point, you’ve more than likely spent around half of the points, and hopefully have some idea what you want your killing machine to wield. Yet now comes the hard part. Where and how should you mount the instruments of your will?

Should you attempt to cover all angles of attack, or trust that your ship can turn fast enough to keep the opposition in its sights? Should you invest in your active defenses, or pour all your resources into firepower?

Attribute-------|----Cost----|
=Projectiles====|============|
Pulse Gun-------|----- 1 ----|
Gatling Pulse---|----- 2 ----|
Blaster Cannon--|----- 2 ----|
Gatling Blaster-|----- 3 ----|
Quad Blaster----|----- 3 ----|
Repeater Gun----|----- 1 ----|
Tachyon Cannon--|----- 2 ----|
Tachyon Repeater|----- 4 ----|
Tachyon Driver--|----- 3 ----|
Plasma Charge---|----- 3 ----|
Missile Launcher|----- 1 ----|
=Beams==========|============|
Mining Beam-----|----- 1 ----|
Scatter Beam----|----- 2 ----|
Beamer----------|----- 3 ----|
Shock Beamer----|----- 3 ----|
Mega Beam-------|----- 4 ----|
=Point=Defense==|============|
Flak Cannon-----|----- 2 ----|
Particle Gun----|----- 2 ----|
Point Beam------|----- 2----|
=Misc===========|============|
Demeter Launcher|----- 2 ----|
Demeter Pod Lchr|----- 12 ----| 2
Weasel Gun------|----- 3 ----|
Pulsar Gun------|----- 4 ----|
Sidewinder------|----- 2 ----|
Railgun---------|----- 4 ----|
=Modules========|============|
Gosling Launcher|----- 3 ----|
Nano Matrix-----|----- 15 ---| 1
Gravitic Impeder|----- 6 ----|
Platform Faber--|----- 8 ----|
Impeder Faber---|----- 6 ----|
Dieterling Devic|----- 18 ---|
Flux Projector--| Restricted for AI reasons
Booster---------|----- 5 ----| 2
Aegis Deflector-|----- 8 ----| *
Deflector Shield|----- 4 ----| **
Teller Torpedo--|----- 2 ----|
Gluon Bolter----|----- 3 ----|
Lancet Beam-----|----- 6 ----| 2
Frosch Gun------|----- 15 ---| 1 [B]0 for Assault[/B]
Gravity Beam----|----- 5 ----|
Rorschach-------|----- 6? ----| [B]Currently broken[/B]

* You may only have 1 Aegis Deflector per 6 sections, not counting your core. They cannot be on the section they’re guarding. The ship will be ruled on. They may not be used with standard Deflector Shields.
** You may only have 1 Deflector Shield per 3 sections, not counting your core. They may not be used with Aegis Deflectors.

Hopefully you’ve been able to fit all the kit you want onto your ship, and it is now ready to convert a few foes to a quickly expanding field of debris. At this point, if you’re happy with her, you should take a screenshot, upload the files, and submit her to the tournament.

Good luck, and good fight!

Additional Rules:
Parenting
All ships must have logical parenting, modules must sit on the sections they are attached to and parented sections must touch.
While stacking sections and weapons is fine, it must be within reason. A section cannot be completely covered by another section, and a weapon\module cannot be completely covered by another weapon\module. However, weapon\modules may completely cover a section.
Ship cores must be default.

Shields
Deflectors are restricted to one per three sections and Aegis are restricted to one per six sections. Aegis'd sections may not cover more than 90 degrees when measured from the core. A ship may not have both deflectors and aegis.
An Aegis Shield may not completely cover one side of attack.

Weapons and Modules
Each section may parent at most two modules/weapons. All weapons must use their original arc. That is, weapons may no longer be expanded to 180 degrees in this tournament. No attributes may be changed for weapons or modules.

Sign-ups:
Format:
<#>,<Player Name>,<Time that would be best for you if we use Team Speak and Team Viewer or whatever it is>,<Prefered date to run this(Optional)>

Old OP

Previous Winners
1v1 Tournaments:
I: II: III: (Don't have a picture ) IV:
Fleet Tourny:

As an idea of what these tournaments are like: Watch this

What is Battleships Forever?
From the main BSF thread:
At its core, Battleships Forever is a top down RTS set in space based around ship-to-ship combat. All the staples are here: A variety of missles, beams, deflectors, etc. to attack and defend your own. Even more exciting is that each gun on each ship fires individually, and each part of each ship can be destroyed individually. (Just like Warning Forever, an obvious inspiration, especially in the graphics department.) So a ship can be made up of, i don't know 40 parts, each with its own attributes. You can, as an attacker, target each part individually as well.
Read more here
Official site here

What is this tournament?
Battleships Forever's ShipMaker allows for custom made ships. As BSF itself lacks multiplayer, we've implemented our own point system (modified from the tournaments run on the official forum), and have a tournament organizer (me in this case) run and record the matches in BSF's Sandbox.

Current Sign-Ups:
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Alternates: (Unlimited)
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Fourth Arcadia 1 v 1 Tournament Entrants and Results

The Entrants
1. CmdPrompt - Reign - Battleship

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/Reign.sb2

2. See317 - GoldenShower - Cruiser

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/golden1.sb2

3. AlanF5 - Brickhouse IV - Battleship

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/Brickhouse_IV.sb2

4. Not Uncle Dave - Abomination - Battleship

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/Abomination.sb2

5. Himura.Kenshin - Bullette III - Cruiser

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/HK.PA.4CST.v02.rar

6. webguy20 - HeavyWang 1.0 - Battleship

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/HeavyWang1.2.sb2

7. goduranus - T3 - Cruiser

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/T3_godranus.sb2

The Results

1. CmdPrompt – Reign – 5-1
2. goduranus - T3 – 4-2
3. AlanF5 - Brickhouse IV – 4-2
4. Not Uncle Dave - Abomination – 3-3
5. Himura.Kenshin - Bullete III – 2-4
6. See317 - GoldenShower 2-4
7. webguy20 - HeavyWang 1.0 - 1-5

Not Uncle Dave

This new ruleset worries me...

The nanomatrix must be set a required amount of sections to power it, or frigates are going to dominate, I promise you- there is no reason to use a battleship with the weaponry (and more importantly, PD/defensive modules) costing the same for all ship classes.

My suggestion is to create a conceptual "Power Grid", where each section on a ship allows more weaponry to be mounted, similar to the restrictions on Aegis- if each section allows 4 points of equipment to be mounted, you won't find the frigate designs with 6 sections, 11 railguns and a nanomatrix that we're all going to come to hate. It adds an extra cost to equipment that is negligible for a battleship, but noticeable for a frigate- with this system a nanomatrix costs an effective 11.25 points on a battleship, and 15 on a frigate, for instance- and there is no way a frigate would be able to wield the defensive capabilities of a battleship without taking on extra cost, where the battleship would be thankful of the extra armor.

CmdPrompt

Personally, I'd rather not complicate the rules by adding something like that. I do agree with nanomatrices being an issue, and have bumped the cost up to 15.

I'd like to see how the tournament works about, rather than trying to second guess everything. If you think frigates at max range with 11 railguns are going to be an issue, than build accordingly.

There certainly were no qualms about battleships dominating the first three tournaments, we aren't exactly taking a step back if frigates dominate this one.

Not Uncle Dave

and what fun would that be? :P

the name of the ship i'm building for this one is "Juggernaut"- and the name isn't remotely ironic 8-)

Himura.Kenshin

This is gonna be an interesting twist of events. Wonder what will be the most popular class?

webguy20

Couple questions,

Are the different classes going to be against each other? Id like to enter 1 of each class, but I don't know if thats in the rules or not.

Himura.Kenshin

Usually we just do an all-out every class against every other one here. I know with the old point system, we used to do every class separately (we even went as far as to make a 400 point Behemoth class =P).

EDIT: Oops, forgot to specify that the latter part was only at the wyrdysm.com forums.

webguy20

That behemoth class sounds like a lot of fun! 400 points...damn

see317

I'm in. Will get my ship uploaded and delivered in a few days.

It'll either be fun to watch, or out in the first round. Or both.

see317

Don't know what kind of interest other people had, but I figured I'd toss in my ship.

CmdPrompt wrote: »

Format:
<#>,<Player Name>,<Ship Name>,<Link(Optional)>
e.g.:
1. CmdPrompt, Reign, Link


Current Sign-Up List
2.See317 - GoldenShower - Frigate Class - http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/golden1.sb2

CmdPrompt

Concerning the new version-
It sounds like its a pretty big change, so I'd prefer if we use the old version for now, so that we can keep the costs as is.

I plan on running a couple of matches using both versions to figure out what needs to be changed cost wise.

Himura.Kenshin

see317 wrote: »

Don't know what kind of interest other people had, but I figured I'd toss in my ship.

CmdPrompt wrote: »

Format:
<#>,<Player Name>,<Ship Name>,<Link(Optional)>
e.g.:
1. CmdPrompt, Reign, Link


Current Sign-Up List
2.See317 - GoldenShower - Frigate Class - http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/golden1.sb2

You forgot to change the name of the ship =P. Also, the link is broken.

/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/**G**olden1.sb2

It needed to be capitalized o.O

CmdPrompt

Last day for entries!

If you need a day or something, please PM me or something. I'd like to get as many entrants as possible, 3 is kind of disappointing

It may be that interest has waned and its time for some Battle for Wesnoth as Valkun said.

webguy20

Ill have mine this evening. Any free hosting sites I can put this thing up on?

CmdPrompt

Just hit upload to ship database in the shipmaker, it will bring up an upload window.

see317

Himura.Kenshin wrote: »

You forgot to change the name of the ship =P. Also, the link is broken.
/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/**G**olden1.sb2
It needed to be capitalized o.O

Oops.
Well, so long as it can be found and loaded by CMD, I guess I can live with the name being wrong.

CmdPrompt

You're fine :^:

Well, I expect we'll get a couple last minute entries, but overall it seems that interest has waned. Theres a couple options from here:

1. Drop it for a while, start it up later when its fresh to people.
2. Create a website dedicated for it, as a practice for learning my PHPs, spread it around the interwebs and hope for the best.
3. Something else

McSnuggles

No picture of my T3 winner? Absurd!

I think I'm going to try and get in this tourny today, but not promising anything : / Lots of stuff with finals coming soon and all.

[*makes note to get a pic <.<]

Himura.Kenshin

Unless my computer blows up before I get home, I'll definately get one in by tonight =D.

Not Uncle Dave

hehahahah

the Abomination is ready. 8-) It's either going to completely and utterly STEAMROLL things or waddle around dying. Boasting 8 quad blasters, 2 megatachs, and 5 plasma charges, plus some nifty-looking ablative spikes- well, it's death. My only regret is that I had to install a front aegis plate to prevent lancets from completely neutering it, otherwise I would quite happily have added 8 more points worth of spiky armor. Looks fantastic.

ship breakdown

36 sections- 18 points

0.5s/0.4t/0.05a, 15 points

aegis, 8 points. 41 so far

8 quad blasters for another 24 (65), 5 plasma charges (80) and 2 megatachs (88) with 4 flak cannons (100) for defense.

I look forward to the frigate challengers... I couldn't stomach making a mini-ship, it just felt unwholesome.

see317

Not Uncle Dave wrote: »

hehahahah
I look forward to the frigate challengers... I couldn't stomach making a mini-ship, it just felt unwholesome.

With the mass-produced weapon rules, frigate's are a whole lot meaner this time around. Still smaller due to higher cost per piece then your average battleship, but now they can have some teeth.

Just for fun I put a 3v3 together between my 3 of my ship and 3 of Alan's. It was quite entertaining.
1v1, not so much, lot slower and a pretty close match at the end. But 3v3...

It was all
Pew Pew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
BoOmM! bOoMm!
Pew Pew
Pew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
BOOOM!

That said, I fear Gluon bolters may be under-priced, and will likely be increased in the next tourney, if there is another one.

Himura.Kenshin

Just submitted my Cruiser =D

I was meaning to make a Frigate, but in essence I just ended up typing out the point makeup without the movement costs (i.e. just weapons/modules and sections) and I ended up favouring Cruiser the best. Actually, I think that Cruiser is pretty much the best all around.

May the Bullette III, er, the best man, er, or woman, win!

CmdPrompt

Its 1 am here, but feel free to submit entries until I actually run a round.

I'll try and work on it tomorrow, but I have an exam Friday, so its likely I'll be spending most of my time studying.

Expect it up Friday.

EDIT: Since I didn't get any entires with Demeter Pod Launchers, consider them banned for late entries. Currently they're underpriced and completely wreck cruisers, and with the higher priced point defense they're just ridiculous.

webguy20

Heres mine! its only 11:18pm here

Webguy20, Heavywang1.2

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/HeavyWang1.2.sb2

goduranus

Hi, my first tournament.

My submission for cruiser

core hp, 400, 0
speed 2.85 , 19
accleration 0.08, 4
turning 0.84, 6
sections 8,8
hp add 6, 6

=43

Teller 10, 20
Plat Faber, 2 ,16
Impeder 2, 10
aegis 1,8
flak 1,3

57

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/T1_Goduranus.sb2

goduranus

sorry, my math is wrong. Had too many points spend on maneuverability, can you help me change speed to 2.85. and turning to 0.84.


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changed them myself, should be correct now.

Also made another version, trading teller launchers for another platform fab, and 4 beamers. traded one rear section for more turning speed.
http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforever/shipdatabase/uploads/T3_godranus.sb2


T3

core hp, 400, 0
speed 2.85 , 19
accleration 0.08, 4
turning 0.98, 7
sections 7,7
hp add 6, 6

43

Plat faber 3, 24
beamer 4, 12
Impeder 2, 10
aegis 1,8
flak 3

57


Can I enter with both ships? If not, I'll use the later version, because Teller torpedoes miss fast targets.

Not Uncle Dave

fantastic, nobody used demeter pods?

i imagine it was like a gentleman's agreement, nobody wants to FIGHT 8 pod launchers at once, after all...

webguy20

It seems like Gluon Bolters are the flavor of the week this tournament. I love playing on a Core2 Duo 6420, 2 gigs of ram and a bitchin graphics card and I get massive slowdown with dozens of em firing at once.

Becoming

Gluon bolters are the best weapon in the game if your target doesn't strafe. The picture changes drastically when your enemy starts moving to the side though. lol

webguy20

There needs to be a target prediction module that beefs accuracy up, it could be like 6-8 points, to help better deal with straffing enemies. As it is right now the computer is clueless.

My favorite anti-straff weapons are the railguns. Those things are ghastly, especially against modules.

CmdPrompt

I was hoping for an 8th to round it out, but I guess I'll close sign-ups since I've already run matches.

Results will be up sometime between now and tomorrow at about 5, theres a couple of problems that I still need to resolve.

see317

So, since we've only got 7 ships this time around, are you planning on a simple single elimination tourney like usual or a round robin type thing with the two winningest ships duking it out for the final match?

CmdPrompt

Round robin.
Not sure about the two winningest ships bit though, since those two have already played.

It was a close match though, maybe have that round be the last one and take it to 5 matches instead?

see317

CmdPrompt wrote: »

Round robin.
Not sure about the two winningest ships bit though, since those two have already played.

It was a close match though, maybe have that round be the last one and take it to 5 matches instead?

Yeah, I suppose I should have realized that. I blame work for making me blind to the obvious.

CmdPrompt

Himura.Kenshin - Bullete III - Cruiser


v.

webguy20 - HeavyWang 1.0 - Battleship


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UvRR515-6E

Victor:

Bullete

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webguy20 - HeavyWang 1.0 - Battleship


v.

See317 - GoldenShower - Cruiser


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zjIpkJc520

Victor:

GoldenShower

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webguy20 - HeavyWang 1.0 - Battleship


v.

CmdPrompt - Reign - Battleship


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYMbkjkcEs

Victor:

Reign

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Himura.Kenshin - Bullette III - Cruiser


v.

godurnas - T3 - Cruiser


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQevuuOIDA

Victor:

T3

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AlanF5 - Brickhouse IV - Battleship


v.

CmdPrompt - Reign - Battleship


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pcXFXxPI9I

Victor:

Reign

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AlanF5 - Brickhouse IV - Battleship


v.

See317 - GoldenShower - Cruiser


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3PrbTQGp18

Victor:

Brickhouse