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Lucky Cynic
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I thought it would be fitting if we all take a look back at a game that we can surely probably all run on ultra now, but at one point in time, was considered nearly photo realistic and to some even the first next gen game. Everyone brings up Half Life or other classics, but Doom is really under rated, in my opinion. Released just 3 years ago, this sci-fi horror game stood out from anything else we had seen before and sold over a million copies as well as spawning a pathetic movie version staring the Rock. Sure the weapons were fairly stale and you couldn't handle a simple flashlight with a rifle at hand, but it's Doom! So what fond memories do you lads, (and lassies) have of this memorable title?
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A documentary on the history of Doom and what it was like making Doom3. A good review and insight on what it was making Doom 3 back in 2003.
(Be sure to note the guy's huge ass CRT monitor, lawl.)
And now for some screenshots! H-Scooool!
Sorry, I couldn't resist that last one.
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Agreed. I still play it every now and then, but I always find it hard to keep up the effort and get all the way to the end.
I think that the visuals and the sound have aged surprisingly well.
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Ah, 2004. How time flies. I personally think Far Cry ran away with that title in '04 before the other two biggies came on. It was jaw-dropping for its day and still looks amazing.
However, 20 pages of someone saying that "it's a cool engine with no gameplay" is fine too, if you like to do that sort of thing.
Says the man with Ron Paul in his sig.
Hehe, I am just jerking with you. To be honest, I didn't really like the game too much, but it was very different and I thought it was fairly well made.
I have the expansion pack but havent played it yet, is it any good?
The key to enjoying Doom 3 is to run. Fast. Through the levels. Not to slow down.
And NOT to stick your Goddamn flashlight into every corner and crevice of every level.
People talk about it being slow are playing it wrong. You can see just fine without the flashlight most of the time if you just fucking run. More enemies come at you and you're shooting and blasting more.
Treat it like a speed run. I promise, you'll have about 10x as much fun as you did the first time. And also, the game stops being 20 hours long and ends up being like 10 hours long.
Doom 3 and Half Life 2 were the last two games I upgraded my PC for. Since then, my PC has not been upgraded or changed in any way. So no, I can't run any good new stuff these days. After HL2, all I played was Quake 4, which was fun. But that's it. Quake 4 was the last PC game I ever ended up playing. And probably will be the last PC game I ever end up playing. My PC can't run any of the new stuff worth shit, and at this point, I'd much rather buy a 360 or PS3 (to add to my Wii). I have just as much fun, if not more so, with those than I did playing PC games; especially due to the fact that I don't like RTS games and cannot stand MMORPGs.
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Quake 4 sucked too. Boring shit. Quake 1 was a blast though.
To the rest of the stuff you just posted....how can you say that that will be the last thing you ever play. As time progresses tech gets better and at the same time gets cheaper...imagine how much an 8800 will cost 5 years from now. Cmon man.
Whoaaa, that patch makes it look worse than Half Life. One must ask "why??"
Cuz. That's what elite PC wankers do when they're not powerleveling an MMORPG and eating Hot Pockets.
I totally want to dig out my old Voodoo2 and try it one of these days.
OK. That's a fair point.
But I want to stop this specific instance of dialogue before it turns into a PC v. Console discussion.
I enjoyed Doom 3 and I very much enjoyed Quake 4. Quake 4's multi was a lot like Quake 3, which I appreciated, as I'm awesome at Quake 3.
It never bothered me that you couldn't keep your flashlight up at all times in Doom 3. I never had any trouble 'seeing' things. But of course, like I said, I kept moving.
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I don't think multiplayer caught on because it was just too slow with 4 players.
DuctTape mod.
Problem solved.
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I'm guessing Starcraft II will run on a Half-Life 2 era machine. Blizzard tends to be non-retarded when it comes to scalability and optimization, unlike most PC devs. Hell, Warcraft III ran on Intel In-degraded graphics and 128MB of RAM back in the day.
Plus, Peter Stormare helps everything.
I do think that Doom 3 did a better job of showing off the engine, and felt more atmospheric. For me it nails that creepy spacestation vibe. Playing it I feel like I'm in a place, at least until the overabundance of monster closets slightly breaks that down.
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Otherwise it was just another decent shooter.
The decision to slow down the player speed was a very good one. There was an interview with Carmack talking about how visuals becoming more realistic caused a need for more realism in the gameplay to maintain the suspension of disbelief or whatnot. It's true, and the game feels good and immersive at the slower pace.
The E3/tech demo was extremely exciting and promising. The player being ambushed by classic, shuffling zombies and the fact that every single shot from the SMG or other weapons left precise damage texture(s) made shooting them almost as satisfying as it was watching the shotgun pumping animation in the original Doom. Speaking of, the shotgun just wasn't as cool in D3. Reading e-mails for codes and such was also a major drag for me. Also, the running Marine zombies were just annoying.
I think Doom 3 just suffered from an identity crisis. Was it a forward thinking survival horror FPS (slow movement, reading e-mail logs and such)? Was it a throwback to classic Doom (simple, FPS-action, shoot everything, secret walls and shit opening with baddies waiting inside)? Whatever they were aiming for, it got pretty meh and repetitive after the earlier stages.
The co-op mod did make the game a lot more fun, though. And the graphics are still solid. While not a bad game, I don't think the gameplay lived up to the potential.
And the guy that said to play through it fast is right on the money. My second time through the game, I played it just like Doom, which is probably my favorite game of all-time, so it was super fun. I didn't get scared at all and ruined the designed pacing, but it was great.
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This is what, your third time to post in this thread only to say how much you dislike Doom 3? We get it, you don't like the game. If you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion then stop posting.
As for me, I enjoyed the game. While the monster closets lost their ability to surprise me after about 30 minutes into the game I still enjoyed the atmosphere and setting. The sound was nice, and I really enjoyed reading the e-mails and listening to the audio logs (ripped blatantly from System Shock 2, but I don't mind a bit). Really helped make me feel like I was actually on an isolated space station on one of Mars' moons. I wouldn't ever say it was the best game ever, but I still recommend it to anyone who hasn't played it.
Just... interesting timing.
But it still completely breaks immersion for me.
I'm a space marine. In the future. On Mars. I've been highly trained in the use of various weapons and combat and close combat.
Even now, the lowest form of law enforcement officer can hold a handgun in one hand and support it at the wrist with his other hand, which contains a flashlight. Even without "training" I can do this. I can do it with a shotgun.
You're telling me my super duper space marine man can't?
Oh, and there's no duct tape on Mars either.
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EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO THIS.
It's the best mod ever.
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I do wish that the game was more of a direct successor to Doom 1/2 and not the striking departure that it turned out to be. The first two Dooms, for the most part, had excellent level design and weapons that you actually gave a shit about. The gameplay was fast-paced and didn't really need to tell a complicated story. It seems with Doom 3, id spent a little too much time making the game fit "modern" FPS plot "requirements" and not enough time tweaking the gameplay. This, as someone else mentioned, created a sort of identity crisis for the game. Was it a slow-paced, methodical sci-fi thriller, or a balls-to-the-wall gore-fest? The answer was something in between, but the game came off as indecisive rather than a hybrid.
Still, there's no denying the game's technological achievements. It's just a shame they weren't put to better use.
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It was too long for its own good. It definitely felt like one of the longer FPS experiences in recent years, and it could've benefited from more creativity and less corridor with monster in closet. I really like the engine, though; more people should use it, since, it seems, no one can figure out how to properly use UE3 other than Epic themselves.
My PC at the time had no chance of running this, and I loved the original games, so, the CE and the need to play Jet Set Radio Future finally convinced me.
Fun for what it was; it was worth the purchase.
I should do a harder difficulty playthrough soon.
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