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crysis: a debacle
jontheshogun
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ok, i just bought crysis thinking that my machine was not only good enough to display it at max but better (just bought the damn thing, but i cant remember how to check my specs again, i checked them against the reccomended requirements b4 but i was doing it from memory, which is probably why this is happening) how do i check my specs?
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My specs
OS: Vista
Processor: intel core 2 duo 1.66 ghz
RAM: 2046 MB DDR
HD: 24gb free (after installation)
Video Card: nvidia Geforce 8400m
VRAM: 880 mb
Sound: Dx10 Comp.
DirectX: DirectX 10
HDDVD-ROM
reccomended specs
OS: Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor: Core 2 Duo/Athlon X2 or better
RAM: 1.5 GB RAM
Hard Drive: 12GB
Video Card: NVIDIA 7800 Series, ATI Radeon 1800 Series or better
VRAM: 512MB of Graphics Memory
Soundcard: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X: DX9.0c or DX10
Other: DVD-ROM
now after reading that HOW THE HELL CANT I RUN THIS DAMN GAME, WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THE STATS (shaders, shadows, graphics, display, etc.) AT LOW? sry if i sound angry, but i am. this is rather peturbing, thinking that i have the perfect machne until i actually implement it...
EDIT: yeah, you're graphics card is the problem, and it's not really the game's fault that you didn't check your spec's before buying it
Crysis is playable on my Geforce 6800 / P4 work machine, but it looks thoroughly unimpressive.
OP: In addition to your graphics card being an issue, I think your CPU is also fairly slow. Yeah, Core 2 Duos are super efficient and run well with low clock speeds, but 1.66 ghz is exceptionally low (especially for games like Crysis).
Maybe it's my low Vmem, but from my experience, crysis is far more GPU bound than CPU bound, and it almost never hits 100% CPU except for the occasional spike in big explosions (even with physics set to Very high)
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my graphics card is not the problem, its in the tier above the reccomended graphics card so that has nothing to do with it.
/facepalm
You're wrong. The 8400 is a budget card. You'll need to replace it if you want to play Crysis. A faster processor wouldn't hurt either (as someone pointed out, 1.6 GHZ is really slow for gaming).
By the way, we frown upon the GameFAQs style of posting on this forum. You'll notice that everyone at least makes an effort to use correct spelling, punctuation, capitalization, and grammar. I heartily recommend you give it a try if you'd like to post on this forum regularly. Just a thought.
Edit: Your processor is probably a problem as well. If you turn the physics stuff up the game gets really cpu intensive.
If it didn't have the M behind it, yes. But it does, so, no.
I can't find a damn thing on the internet that will show you the relative power of that card with its desktop brothers, but I did find someone who said it was getting about 1000 in 3dmark, which is about a third of what you'd get out of its desktop kin.
I think. Caveat is that information about benchmarks requires a degree to decipher all the cryptic stats and specs people throw online.
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The number on the card, unfortunately, has very little to do with its actual preformance quality. Unfortunately, nvidia cards that are lower than *600 are generally pretty poorly suited to gaming purposes.
mines in the 8 series, so why the hell is it not even playable on LOW for mine? and no mine is NOT as low as it goes, mines better than the reccomended graphics card, everything i have is better than the reccomended stuff so any of you who say that my graphics card is a piece of shit you dont know wtf ur talking about. and i did check my specs, i just did it from memory and i remembered that at least all of my stuff was better than the min. so i bought it.
Shit. Yeah. What he said.
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Who me? I hope not... it's a new Geforce 8800 GT.
Apotheos is going to make me cry...
The point is, a 7800 from the rec specs completely kicks the ass of the 8400. Just because it in a higher series, does not mean its more powerful. Your video card is the absolute bottom of the line for the 8 series, whereas the 7800 was mid to high range for the 7 series.
no, i use a lower graphics card (this is on another computer) for games like gears of war, unreal tournament, bioshock, etc. and it works like a dream, i can max it out for everything.
wait wait wait, let me get this streight. how is a 7800 better than the 8400? especially considering i built this computer for gaming (this was on the "reccomended for gaming" que).
Your card is in the 8 series, but it is about as low-end as you can go, and a mobile version besides. The 7800 mentioned by the Crysis Recommended Specs is the high-end card from the previous generation. A 7800 will outperform your 8400m by leaps and bounds. In addition, your processor is the slowest Core 2 Duo I've seen, so that'll be an issue. I also suspect, given the other stats you're working with, that your RAM is lower-end as well.
These are all issues that will negatively impact your ability to run Crysis.
im at college, the one i use normally is a laptop (thats this one), the one with the lower graphics card a desktop, thats at home like 9 states away.
ok. one, yeah i am pretty computer illiterate. how do i run a program in DX9? i dont really know what im doing?
Because the mathematical value of the model number (eg 8400 > 7800) has shit all to do with relative performance.
You have a cheap mobile GPU from the 8th generation of nVidia. The 7800 was fairly high in the 7th generation of nVidia. Vis a vid the 7800 is a better card than yours.
And, if you were trying to build a gaming rig, and then put in a MOBILE graphics processor, well, I call that "Epic Fail".
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The 7 series has a certain feature set, the 8 series has more modern feature set. The 7800 is still a more powerful card than the 8400, but the 8400 has a few features the 7800 does not. That being said, the 8400 is not going to do much in DirectX 10 mode anyways, because DirectX 10 games are typically more cpu intensive, so the 7800 is still the better card.
As for why is was in the ""reccomended for gaming" que", well, thats advertising for you.
For the money, I don't think you can beat the 7800, especially if you need a card that uses AGP instead of PCI express. I picked one up a couple of months ago for my (now) old system and it rocked. I saw an immediate performance increase from my ATI 9800. Although, I'd be surprised if I didn't see an increase from that.
you have a mobile version (always worse than the desktop equivalent) of the bottom ass end budget card of the most recent generation of nvidia gpus. (8*00's)
sure its better than budget cards from the last generation (7400, 7300, etc) . But likely mid range and especially high end cards from the last gen (7600, 7800, 7900, etc) will smack it all over the place. Let alone mid and high end parts from the CURRENT generation (8600, 8800, etc).... which is what crysis REALLY wants.
oh ok i see now. aright, thx, you were a little bit mean towards the end, but i deserve it cuz i was taking out my anger at the wrong person. im gonna go kill the salesperson who gave me the wrong information.
What card is in the other computer? It's possible that it could run Crysis if it does well with those other games.
Edit: Abridged due to being too slow.
You probably sensed a lot of kickback from everyone because we were trying to show you how you were mistaken and you seemed reluctant to catch up at first. I don't blame you. Sounds like a sucky situation.
I am a little out of touch with this scene as while I used to be the sort to drop $650 on a video card (pristine first run of GeForce 4 Ti4600! Oh the days!) nowadays I run on a iMac and just don't give a damn about hardware.
Now, I googled and found what looks like tips on how to get the best performance out of Crysis on that rig:
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16034
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ok, yes, i get it now, if i wanted to get a superior graphics card in the 8 series it would have had to have been 600+, i understand this now.
now, can any1 here help me by telling me how to run crysis in DX9? or are you gonna constantly bombard me with reminders of how i was wrong, i know i was. now plz oh knowlegable ones (probably spelled that wrong) how do i do this?
AFIK, if you are running the game under Vista with a DX10 compatible card it's going to force you to run it in DX10. YOu might need to switch to Windows XP. Someone else can probably answer the question better than I can.