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What's worth owning on Sega 32x?
CZroe
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I'm looking for 32X suggestions. I know you're all going to just say "Kolibri! It's arguably the best hummingbird-based shooter on the 32X." (HA HA), but I'd like to know if it's a joke or if the game is actually any good.
I haven't played my SEGA Genesis 32x in a while, but I was happy to find it still connected when I needed to test my most recent purchases:
Star Wars Arcade (dupe - already own)
Cosmic Carnage
Virtua Racing Deluxe
and...
KNUCKLES' CHAOTIX
I was excited about CHAOTIX because I have been waiting to play it for over ten years, but that excitement waned as soon as I started listening to the sound test... ugh. After doing a little training, I tried a little of the single player and found it slow, cumbersome, and boring. The 3D special stage was interesting until I fell through the floor.
I *LOVED* Sonic & Knuckles, so I was really looking forward to this. After a disappointment like CHAOTIX, what is left to try? I already have Doom and Shadow Squadron, along with the 32X/CD game Supreme Warrior (my Sega CD doesn't work, so I'm stuck with my crappy 3DO version).
I haven't played my SEGA Genesis 32x in a while, but I was happy to find it still connected when I needed to test my most recent purchases:
Star Wars Arcade (dupe - already own)
Cosmic Carnage
Virtua Racing Deluxe
and...
KNUCKLES' CHAOTIX
I was excited about CHAOTIX because I have been waiting to play it for over ten years, but that excitement waned as soon as I started listening to the sound test... ugh. After doing a little training, I tried a little of the single player and found it slow, cumbersome, and boring. The 3D special stage was interesting until I fell through the floor.
I *LOVED* Sonic & Knuckles, so I was really looking forward to this. After a disappointment like CHAOTIX, what is left to try? I already have Doom and Shadow Squadron, along with the 32X/CD game Supreme Warrior (my Sega CD doesn't work, so I'm stuck with my crappy 3DO version).
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The only 32x game I actually owned when I was younger, was Kolibri. I sold it, but bought it again here the past month. It's... um... an okay game. It's fun for awhile, and slightly strange: You're a hummingbird. Uh-oh, a giant volcano/comet/something happens that changes the world. Wow, there are crystals that pump out random power-ups. I'm a hummingbird that is shooting deadly lasers at killer bees and dragonflies. That's pretty much it. But I do recommend it, it's fun, fairly hard, and makes for a good experience.
Also pick up Kolibri
And fucking definitely, DEFINITELY make sure you pick up Virtua Fighter. it's better than the saturn port.
It is when it came from a thrift store for pennies (not sure of the amount, but it was likely under $8 several years ago). My friend wasn't terribly disappointed when he bought it new back in the day with Doom included, but I couldn't STAND it. I'm sure he got it after one of the major price drops. As bad as the SNES Doom was with missing levels and 1-sided sprites, I was playing it on my SNES XBAND modem and just couldn't take the graphics and audio down-grade on the 32X. He was CONVINCED that it was better than the FX2 SNES version though (probably to justify his purchase).
As I now understand it, it's from the makers of Ecco the Dolphin series, so I'll definitely check it out. Thanks.
I forgot about Mortal Kombat 2! I know it existed for the Saturn also, but I don't own a version even close to the arcade original. I own the DOS NBA Jam TE, so I already have a really good version of that. Heh, I even have the NBA Jam Sessions audio CD. PURE CHEESE.
I was waiting for you.
I hope these are easy to find outside of eBay. So far, every thrift store and independant game store around here has a ton of new sealed 32X golf games, though I forget the exact title.
Golf something 36 holes starring fred whatshisface? not that great a game.
VF is definitely still great. All VFs are built upon the previous game, so they kinda build onto each other. As such, VF1 is probably the BEST place to hop on board.
VF2 is much better, though. That's just testament to how great VF2 is, though, not how bad VF1 is. I believe the 32X port of VF1 MIGHT be missing a few moves, but trust me, never buy the saturn port over the 32X port. the 32X port is much much better in terms of playability.
Virtua Fighter Remix is the supreme VF1 port, however.
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There is no Jurassic park game on the 32X.
Primal Rage?
It is actually for Sega CD but you must have the 32x to play it at all. It was a good game though back in the day as I remember. Rise of the Dragon was good to but I could never get past the part where you have to hook up wires and shit before you either A) get electrocuted or
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No that's not right either. Jurassic Park was released before the 32X was even a gleam in SoA's eye. And Jurassic Park was NOT one of the sega cd games rereleased as 32X CD games.
Sure thing man. I had the Sega CD but not the 32x. My mate across the street had the 32x and I could not play Jurassic Park without it.
Regardless, get the game, as it is awesome.
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I have both. In fact, Jurassic Park is sitting right next to me right now.
Reading the back of the box... released in 1993. It's manual's last page is an advertisement for Sonic CD. No where on the box does it say "32X" on it. There WERE 32X CD games but Jurassic park was not one of them.
those "privledged" games were Night Trap, Supreme Warrior, Corpse Killer, Farenheit, and Slam City starring Scotty Pippen. In other words, not a single damn good game.
EDIT: Sewer Shark is a sega CD game, not a 32X game.
If he has one he probably has the other. And if he doesn't he needs to get a sega CD just so he can play Sewer Shark.
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oye my head hurts. Fucking finals, I'm going to lay down.
Pity about the rest of the game.
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But it was worth mentioning.
Wasn't that the one that was known for crashing back to a command line from time to time?
This is just a tribute.
I'm not going to say that VF1 is completely devoid of merit, but suggesting it as a recommended entry point to the series is very silly. While the absolute basics haven't changed much (there's a punch button, there's a kick button, there's a block button, most moves have been retained), all of the additions made since VF1 (replacing moon jumps with proper evasions, offensive/defensive evasion moves, groud recovery / wake-up, throw escapes, and a whole bunch of high-level stuff I never bother with) make it a poor choice for anybody wanting to get into the current games.
Thanks god my local store stopped trading in before I got rid of half my games to finance it. Got one now though. Virtua Racing is cool
The print ad for that was awesome. It was a 2 page spread with a kid peeking into the key hole of a door onto the next page which was a diagram of the 32X being inserted into the genesis. Above the kid, spawning both pages, is a word bubble saying "Mommy, what are those two SEGA machines doing?"
And at the bottom, a woman replies, "They're making an Arcade machine, dear!"
I loved sega's style.
To start off with:
Sega CD:
Snatcher
Lunar: The Silver Star
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Sonic CD
Lords of Thunder
Shining Force CD
Earthworm Jim: Special Edition
Batman Returns
32X:
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Racing Deluxe
Star wars Arcade
Knuckles Chaotix
Kolibri
Space Harrier
Afterburner
Saturn:
Bug! (& Bug! Too)
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Daytona USA CE
Fighters Megamix
NiGHTS into Dreams (And Christmas NiGHTS)
Virtua On
Virtua Cop 1 & 2
Astal
Dreamcast:
Sonic Adventure
Crazy Taxi
Ecco: Defender of the future
Jet Set Radio
Soul Caliber
Marvel vs Capcom (and 2)
Street Fighter III
Rival Schools
None of those should set you back too much (except for snatcher and the lunar games). when you have those, I can recommend some rarer, more expensive titles. I bolded fighter's megamix because I believe it's the best game on the list, and one of the best fighters of all time.
Thanks man, I'll try to get these games.
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I have:
-SEGA Genesis Model 1
-RF Modulator (I want A/V cables so recommend those too please)
-SEGA Genesis Model 1 AC Adapter
-Star Wars Arcade 32X
-Four controllers: two 6-button and two 3-button
I think I need:
-SEGA 32X that fits the Model 1 (don't they all?)
-SEGA 32X AC adapter
Am I missing anything? Is there a good place to get any of this besides eBay/Amazon (generally speaking they want too much for too little except on the software)? The games are cheap but if there really isn't anything worthwhile maybe I should skip out. I'd wait for the Virtual Console to pick them up or something but I don't think Star Wars Arcade will ever show up.
All 32X's fit the model 1 with no problems. The model 2 genesis requires a small piece of plastic to be inserted between the genesis and 32X. No problems there.
Unfortunately, you're missing the hardest to find component - the pass-through cable, and those were made 1:1 with the system. The cable is what lets the 32X and Genesis display their collective video as one. It takes the video out from the genesis and feeds it into the video in on the 32X. The genesis' video data is then outputted simultaneously through the 32X video out. Think of it as working the same way the Voodoo graphics cards worked, where they didn't display data on their own, but rather passed through to the video card on the PC.
See the black cable in between the 32X and the CDX (not the RCA cables)? Thats what you need. You're in double bad luck as well, because you have a model 1 genesis... you need a second converter cable that attaches to one end of that pass through cable in order to connect it to the genesis video out. The genesis 1 used a different video out dim than the genesis 2, hence the need for a converter. The genesis 1 used a normal sized 9 pin dim, while the genesis 2 used a smaller 9 pin mini-dim.
Good luck finding these cables. They are near impossible to get a hold of. Now, the good news is I've devised two ways to over come this. The bad news is both require a steady hand, some simple soldering, and generally ghetto-rigging your 32X. want me to explain or would you rather I just point you in the best direction possible towards finding a pass through cable?
EDIT: Oh shit, I didn't realize you hadn't bought a 32X yet. Ok, first step - MAKE SURE THE 32X COMES WITH A PASS THROUGH CABLE. AND THE MODEL 1 ADAPTER.
The 32X should come with it's own A/V cables, too, but if they don't you can use the a/v cables for a genesis 2. Thy fit perfectly with the 32X.
I was one of the 'few', the proud, the original 32X launch buyers (IE Sucker). But that's not to say it was entirely all bad, even if dissappointing. On the cheap it's not a bad little addition with some fun, if not enhanced games. The Virtua Games are a Highpoint (Racing, Fighter) as is Star Wars Arcade. Doom was a perk for me since I didn't have a PC back them, despite it's missing levels. Cosmic Carnage was a fun little fighter, if not technically sound. Arcade ports were better at the time, but probably not worth recommending now since there are several ways to get arcade perfect translations. Blackthorne was good, BC Racers was decent, as well as some later games in the add-on's life. Zaxxon : Mothership also comes to mind. Metal Head was fun at the time, but probably not worth the effort with current Armored Core games. Biggest perk was probably the extra colors/buffer for the SEGA CD. Night Trap got a doubled screen size (Albeit still crappy compared to today), as well as a few other live action games.
Worth it today? For nostalgia and all things SEGA, if you have a Genesis then most definitely. Otherwise it's probably not worth it.
Oh, and damn you Sonic I want that CDX!
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Oh man, maybe that's why our 32X never worked right. We had a model 1 Genesis and Star Wars Arcade never displayed any of the 3D polygon stuff. My brother and I saved for ages to buy a 32X from Toys R US right when it came out; it was the first console we ever bought with our own money, and we ended up returning the thing practically the next day. We felt so burned by the experience...
Also, I thought I'd point out that there are some metal braces of some kind with the 32X that go in the cart slot. They hold the doors open, but I doubt that is their purpose. They probably provide grounding; I'm not sure if that is important.
yeah thats why. If you only do A/V out through the genesis you can see what it's displaying. Alternatively, if you don't do the a/v in on the 32X, you can see what it's rendering alone. It's pretty neat to see how the image is actually broken up on the fly.