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Vista SP1 RC: Don't install it. [Rage's free technical advice thread, too]
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- OS tweaking\usage\interoperability
- Software\drivers\compatability
- Hardware: gaming rigs, custom builds, etc...
Fire at will.
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This probably belongs in G&T but that place is greasy. This may only be of interest to current Vista users anyway, all 8 of us.
Microsoft officially released the first Release Candidate for public consumption today, and along with it, a laundry list of fixes that addresses everything except the noted compatibility issues with certain hardware, software and drivers.
The list currently covers roughly 300 hotfixes and performance improvements, and according to the press release today, is not an exhaustive list, meaning there are more fixes in the works expected to be slipstreamed into the final service pack release due near the end of Q1.
- MS TechNet: RC Vista SP1 release notes:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/49281e52-71d0-43e0-a885-4c229587c88d1033.mspx?mfr=true
WinUpdate Vista pre-requisite updates:
KB935509 This updates is only required on Windows Vista Enterprise and Windows Vista Ultimate editions (which have Bitlocker capabilities). This update is required prior to installing KB938371, the second prerequisite update and is required to prevent potential loss of data on Bitlocker encrypted systems during updating.
KB938371 This update consists of fixes for several components (including the TrustedInstaller), increases the success rate for installing the service pack and enables the service pack to be uninstalled successfully.
KB937287 This is an update to the “Servicing Stack†or the Windows Vista component installer technologies built into Windows Vista. This update enables the built-in installer to properly and successfully install the service pack.
[WARNING]: If you're brave enough to give this RC a shot, fair warning that release candidates are 'as-is': no warranty, no exchanges, no returns and no bitching if it hoses your system.
I highly, HIGHLY recommend you have a backup solution readily available to restore your Vista system to its previous state, be it virtualization, imaging (ghost) or whathaveyou. Beta OS fixes are not for the faint of heart. This cannot be emphasized enough.
Also note: this release is time-bombed. RC1 will not validate after June 30, 2008. The SP will need to be uninstalled completely before the gold SP1 release is applied.
With that taken into consideration, you may download and install the Service Pack via the following:
- http://www.windowsupdate.com
- http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9DE6260E-4275-482D-9524-DE850C4DD91C&displaylang=en
Good luck, and godspeed.
- OS tweaking\usage\interoperability
- Software\drivers\compatability
- Hardware: gaming rigs, custom builds, etc...
Fire at will.
----
This probably belongs in G&T but that place is greasy. This may only be of interest to current Vista users anyway, all 8 of us.
Microsoft officially released the first Release Candidate for public consumption today, and along with it, a laundry list of fixes that addresses everything except the noted compatibility issues with certain hardware, software and drivers.
The list currently covers roughly 300 hotfixes and performance improvements, and according to the press release today, is not an exhaustive list, meaning there are more fixes in the works expected to be slipstreamed into the final service pack release due near the end of Q1.
- MS TechNet: RC Vista SP1 release notes:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/49281e52-71d0-43e0-a885-4c229587c88d1033.mspx?mfr=true
WinUpdate Vista pre-requisite updates:
KB935509 This updates is only required on Windows Vista Enterprise and Windows Vista Ultimate editions (which have Bitlocker capabilities). This update is required prior to installing KB938371, the second prerequisite update and is required to prevent potential loss of data on Bitlocker encrypted systems during updating.
KB938371 This update consists of fixes for several components (including the TrustedInstaller), increases the success rate for installing the service pack and enables the service pack to be uninstalled successfully.
KB937287 This is an update to the “Servicing Stack†or the Windows Vista component installer technologies built into Windows Vista. This update enables the built-in installer to properly and successfully install the service pack.
[WARNING]: If you're brave enough to give this RC a shot, fair warning that release candidates are 'as-is': no warranty, no exchanges, no returns and no bitching if it hoses your system.
I highly, HIGHLY recommend you have a backup solution readily available to restore your Vista system to its previous state, be it virtualization, imaging (ghost) or whathaveyou. Beta OS fixes are not for the faint of heart. This cannot be emphasized enough.
Also note: this release is time-bombed. RC1 will not validate after June 30, 2008. The SP will need to be uninstalled completely before the gold SP1 release is applied.
With that taken into consideration, you may download and install the Service Pack via the following:
- http://www.windowsupdate.com
- http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9DE6260E-4275-482D-9524-DE850C4DD91C&displaylang=en
Good luck, and godspeed.
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I am not a fan of Vista in any way, shape, form, or interpretation of the term. I'm unhappy.
EDIT: I wish I got a screencap, shit was nuts.
this is precisely what i came in here to say
i freaking hate it
i want xp but i'm too lazy to switch it
now you're thinking with portals
You fool that's how Peter Molyneux came into existance. AND THEY'RE STILL SEARCHING FOR THE PATCH THAT WILL SHUT HIS GOB.
Micro$oft Satan 666
Rich and paid 4 by terrists n shit
straight up dawg 4 real they be all out the moneys n still be suckn
You probably don't want to anyway. I got a new laptop this past fall and there are no XP drivers available for it meaning a roll back to XP would actually worsen performance.
How do you blow lack of driver availability out of proportion.
Edit: So far I haven't had any driver issues.
and let's face it, over time it will become less of an issue as more and more companies will make the latest drivers fully Vista compatable
I don't see what the problem with it is
probably because I do nothing but use word and maybe play texas hold 'em
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
It wasn't this. They don't do that with beta patches.
Then you would be interested in SP3 which supposedly makes it faster.
I like Vista, and everyone I know running it has had similar, fairly positive experiences with it, even though Apple tells us we're horrible for doing so.
People seem to forget that things were not very smooth with the Windows XP launch either, although not nearly as severe as Vista due primarily to XP being built upon an already-proven x86 platform in Windows 2000, but there were problems, especially in driver compatibility.
XP became the high-water mark only after a lot of time, fixes and TWO service packs.
SP1 was a big turning point for XP then, so maybe history will repeat itself for Vista...who knows.
1) I force everyone in the office to run Win XP
2) I'm starting to get used to Ubuntu.
I thought the rule of thumb with MS OSes was to stay away from them until a tried-and-true Service Pack 1. Good luck to those of you daring enough to try this. I hope nothing seriously wrong happens to your computer.
Of course, I virtually never game, and when I do, it's retro. So I suppose it's not for everyone.
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Crossover Linux supports newer games like WoW, so I suspect your retro games would run just fine, too.
As soon as they make a Linux client for some proprietary software I use at work, I'm going to make a complete switch to Ubuntu.
I might put it on my ps3
I always wanted to dick around with linux
unless linux is something that's not for dicking around
Because you're a sissy. Grizzly Adams neckbeard notwithstanding.
I work in a primarily Unix-heavy environment, and currently, on my desk I have the following:
- Dell D620 running Vista Enterprise
- Sun Ultra20 x64 Opteron running Ubuntu 7.04 and Solaris 10 (dual)
- MacBook Pro running Leopard and WinXPSP2 (bootcamp)
...and I love them all equally and for different reasons.
Yay. The polarity divide between operating systems gets fuzzier and fuzzier.
Linux is definitely worth trying. I've been using Wine, but I've had a hell of a time getting Steam to work. I have a relatively small partition for Ubuntu, and I really don't want to have two Steam directories on my HD.
Retro gaming is super easy in a Linux environment, particularly with a switch-friendly desktop distro. There are hojillions of interpreters and emulators out there. That's not a problem.
It's access (or lack thereof) to some current titles that might prove a problem for gamers more devoted than myself.
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I enjoyed post-SP2 XP immensely, and have no problem with Vista.
I just find Linux a more engaging and intellectually profitable experience.
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Edit: a /dev/null sissy