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I'm taking a Greyhound trip up to Canada for a wedding . . . Not too long, 19 hours one way (on Dec. 26th) and 16 back down (on the 29th). I'm just looking for general advice, I guess.
Is there anything in particular I should do to make sure my luggage arrives with me? (I'm a bridesmaid and it would be a disaster if my dress got lost in transit.) Are there any essentials I should take? (Pillow? Blankets?) And what are some good ways to avoid conversations with people? I'm worried I'll get a seat next to someone creepy.
I've done Greyhound tranists before. It's not as bad as you might think. Definitely bring some form of entertainment other than just books as you might need something more stimulating to distract you and spare batteries for anything electronic. Headphones or ear plugs are a must as sometimes you get the crying child or the noisy passengers who talk too loudly. The four times I took trips, I was able to sleep most of the time or be left alone without much chatting from someone sitting next to me. Most people take the hint if you close your eyes or are otherwise occupied with something like a book or portable gaming device in your hands.
Take a small pillow and blanket with you since you're going to be going for nearly an entire day without a bed. I went during the summer and their AC systems work pretty good but I don't know how well they heat and going up north in winter is bound to be cold.
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The streets are flooded with the ejaculate of the homeless. -Mac, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Greyhound buses are HELL. I swear to god, if theres a way you can get out of having to take a bus? TAKE IT.
That being said, MP3 player will be necessary. NECESSARY. Maybe a DS/PSP or something along those lines as well. I personally can't zone out in a book in that environment, cause it's creepy as fuck, the buses, but also make sure anything on you can be secured in a way that you won't be worried about it going missing if you fall asleep. Are you making this trip alone? A buddy would really be your best insurance for a safe trip honestly.
Also, invest in some mace, as being a lady likely puts you at better risk of getting raped. I would also suggest bringing a cushion you can throw away for when you are waiting for your bus to arrive either time, and also bring lots and lots of disinfectant wipes, everything is filthy, just fucking disgustingly fucking filthy. Blankets and Pillow? Bring 'em, but like I said, bring a blanket and pillow you're willing to BURN.
My best advice though? Don't take a Greyhound Bus.
Either you're talking about recent bus trips or from a decade ago because the trips I took weren't that bad but those were about 5-6 years ago. Most of the buses I took were technically affliates but they weren't that nasty. I forgot to add that if you want to make sure everything you take with you stays with you, you watch the luggage go from your current bus to your next bus whenever possible. Usually they do it right there in plain sight where you can watch them transfer luggage.
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The streets are flooded with the ejaculate of the homeless. -Mac, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
I am travelling alone, with nameless dread as my only companion. I've got a DS Lite and I've been meaning to buy a MP3 player, I guess this would be a good time to do so. Geez, the Canada Greyhound thing . . . geez.
The stupid thing is it would only take me 5 hours to drive straight up there, I just don't have a lot of confidence in my winter driving skills (translation: they are shit). I looked into plane prices but then I remembered land travel is the only way into Canada that you don't need a passport yet. Grrrr.
I am travelling alone, with nameless dread as my only companion. I've got a DS Lite and I've been meaning to buy a MP3 player, I guess this would be a good time to do so. Geez, the Canada Greyhound thing . . . geez.
The stupid thing is it would only take me 5 hours to drive straight up there, I just don't have a lot of confidence in my winter driving skills (translation: they are shit). I looked into plane prices but then I remembered land travel is the only way into Canada that you don't need a passport yet. Grrrr.
I would drive if its only 5 hours. As long as you aren't driving in a storm, you should be fine.
I second the driving on your own, if it's only 5 hours versus 19 and 16. It's true you never know with weather, but in those areas, they are typically prepared for winter weather and are good about keeping the roads in decent shape.
If you're driving either through Windsor or across the Peace Bridge from Buffalo, then you should keep in mind that we're used to the snow here, and we can deploy a fleet of snow removal vehicles at the drop of a hat.
Seriously, the worst part would normally be the traffic on Boxing Day with cross-border shoppers, but with the dollars nearly at parity, even that shouldn't be as big a problem as years prior.
Drive it - Canada doesn't become the Arctic at the border.
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I'm confused....how is it a five hour drive if you do it, but a sixteen hour drive for a greyhound bus?
DRIVE. If the bus gets stuck in snow, you're gonna love being in a bus full of people freaking out. The main roads should be perfectly fine in the daytime north of NYC, and you gain confidence in your winter driving skills by driving in the wintertime.
Do you have triple-A or better world club? Might put your mind more at ease. But no, I did the half-country Greyhound trip thing and, while it definitely worked for moving me across the country, it was generally a bad experience. And expensive -- flying is not much more and a fraction of the time.
Seriously if you're worried about snow or whatever, drive yourself or fly.
As others have said it really isn't THAT bad up here as far as driving goes. It also depends where you are going. If it's only a five hour drive for you, I'm assuming the city can't be that far from the border, meaning further south, meaning better weather in general compared to some more northern cities in this country.
I umpteenth the Drive Yourself suggestion, as long as you have a front wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicle your winter driving skills shouldn't be too much a threat, just be sure to remember warm clothing in case you do end up stuck. As long as you keep to the main roads, your chances of getting stranded are pretty much nil. Make sure your cell is fully charged before you leave, and make sure you keep it warm.
Figure out a basic itinerary, and make sure somebody at your destination knows when you're due, and therefore realizes when you're overdue. Think about waypoints, like when you get approximately to your halfway point, call to check in and make and corrections to your time estimate.
I also recommend keeping your vehicle fueled, more than half a tank if possible, just in case you do end up stuck behind a pileup or waiting at the border.
Before you leave, check the forcast for your intended route. Right now where I am, it's -29.3 Celcius, and with the windchill it feels like -38.2 celcius, which is pretty much just as cold in farenheit. Dress appropriately or at least of extra clothing in your car.
I got stuck in weather like this once, minimum 8 miles from the nearest town at 9:30pm (which is four hours after dark this time of year). It took me almost two hours to dig myself out, and I was lucky because I happened to be returning from a training exercise so I had a full set of (firefighter) turnout gear that I could put on. And I did have to dig myself out, being on a rural road, nobody else even drove by during that time. I guess they were all smarter than me, and just stayed home that night.
Drive yourself. That's a lot easier, cheaper and probably safer for you to do. If I could've driven myself, I'd have done that. A quarter of the time is a lot better to drive even if you're not that confident, how else will you ever be if you don't do it?
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The streets are flooded with the ejaculate of the homeless. -Mac, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
I'd say drive yourself, as many others have said, but I would recommend checking weather reports and road conditions first. If you'd be driving into anything over 4" of snowfall, like the 12"+ we had here in Montreal a couple weeks back, that's when you'd want to consider letting Greyhound do the driving. We had 3-4" here last night, and it had no impact on my ability to get to work this morning. It's only when we get more than that that the regular passage of cars isn't enough to clear the snow, it gets really slushy, and traction becomes a problem.
The actual bus isn't that bad. You'll definitely want to bring a pillow and blanket, they get fucking cold. Don't bring anything too valuable with you - it may be better to send the dress using UPS or something rather than risk a foulup with the luggage handling.
However, I'd drive it. You might be able to rent a nice Subaru or something else with AWD, makes it quite a bit easier to handle the snow.
I don't understand what all the bitching and moaning about the buses is all about though. I've taken them round trip from Vermont to Boston and DC many times without incident. I don't remember them being dirty except for the bathrooms (avoid these at all costs). Thankfully I'm a dude and could just pee behind a gas station at the next stop.
If you must ride the bus, I can only reiterate to stay the hell out of those bathrooms. Don't drink a lot of fluids unless you're sure you can time up your urination for the next stop. Avoid a lot of junk food because you'll feel terrible just sitting in the bus with it moving through you. A DS lite is a good companion, and a charge should last you most of the trip. Portable movies are the shit IMO, so if you've got a portable player of any kind then consider it. A book is good too. Anything to take your mind and eyes off the road and the endless stretches of trees.
I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
Up here:
When you buy a ticket, it doesn't reserve anything, it's essentially open ended. There are no reserved seats, you just line up and pick a seat when you board. If you don't get there early enough for the busy lines, you have to wait for the next bus (sometimes they'll send a second bus if there is enough people to justify it). Get there an hour before.
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Greyhound can be a disaster if you get stuck next to someone that is nuts. One time some guy sat next to me and started to complain to his girlfriend about how bad his recently imbibed hit of oxycontin was going. Then he proceeded to skitz out because he was claustrophobic, and started removing his pants and putting on other pants, and removing his shirt and putting on nothing.
Then he started licking the windows.
The best bet is to sit near the front of the bus and buddy up with another person traveling alone who seems normal, and make sure that they sit next to you.
Where exactly in Canada are you going? If it's along the Quebec-Windsor corridor maybe you can look into taking the train? It's less likely for you to end up next to sketchy people, and you get more leg room too.
I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
I was once sold a ticket 10 mins before boarding for a bus that was already oversold. What's more, they sold me a CONNECTING ticket too, that I wasn't going to make. Then told me the next bus that would get me there left in 8 hours.
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I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
Up here: When you buy a ticket, it doesn't reserve anything, it's essentially open ended. There are no reserved seats, you just line up and pick a seat when you board. If you don't get there early enough for the busy lines, you have to wait for the next bus (sometimes they'll send a second bus if there is enough people to justify it). Get there an hour before.
Also, if you're unsure of what gate you should be at, ALWAYS ALWAYS ask at least 3 people, and take the most common response.
I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
I was once sold a ticket 10 mins before boarding for a bus that was already oversold. What's more, they sold me a CONNECTING ticket too, that I wasn't going to make. Then told me the next bus that would get me there left in 8 hours.
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I get the feeling that though you ended your post with 'Vancouver', you really wanted to end it with 'those fucking bastards'.
I'm headed from Spokane, WA to Kelowna, BC. Yeah, the reason it's 19 hours long is that they go through Seattle, have an hour layover, then go through Vancouver and have a two hour layover.
You guys have convinced me, I'm going to say screw Greyhound (and their crazy ass holiday rates--$135 one way, give me a break) and drive it.
I'm headed from Spokane, WA to Kelowna, BC. Yeah, the reason it's 19 hours long is that they go through Seattle, have an hour layover, then go through Vancouver and have a two hour layover.
You guys have convinced me, I'm going to say screw Greyhound (and their crazy ass holiday rates--$135 one way, give me a break) and drive it.
Well, I'll be straight with you: if you don't have winter tires and and four wheel drive, you won't make it on the Coquihalla, if it's snowing. You might want to consider driving to Abbotsford, B.C. (just across the line from Sumas, Washington) and taking a commuter flight from the airport there up to Kelowna. It's in the Okanagan, which is like Canada's version of the French Riveria, but it still gets a lot of snow in the winter, much more than anything in the Fraser Valley (where Vancouver is) or Southern Vancouver Island.
Driving or even taking anything that has to go on wheels up the Coquihalla in the wintertime is really inadvisable, unless you really are prepared. If you had a choice between driving yourself and taking the bus, take the bus. They will be prepared, and have chains and everything, so that will be alright. Another suggestion if you want to skim off some time on your trip is to once again drive up to either Abbotsford or Chilliwack and take the Greyhound from there. Chilliwack and Abbotsford are the two last major stops in the Valley, and you can shave a good 2-3 hours off of your trip just by bypassing Vancouver. I don't know where Spokane is in relation to either Abbotsford or Chilliwack, but if it's close to Bellingham or Sumas, it would definitely be worth it to do what I suggested above.
For future reference, when you find no alternative but to travel by bus service (except charters - they may be ok), avoid riding at night. I have gone Iowa-Oklahoma, Iowa-Minnesota, and Iowa-Kentucky on Greyhound, and I was not able to sleep at all on the night trips. I don't mind not being able to sleep. It's not being able to sleep because the driver is frequently correcting to keep from running off the road that bothers me. It was obvious from the side-to-side motion that the drivers were having trouble staying alert and focused on the road. My sympathy to them, but they really need to make sure they are rested up and adjusted before going on an all-night run. Not all of them do that.
The buses move from side to side due to the wind. The.. cabin? sits on an air cushion seperated from the wheels. Mine did that too in a heavy rainstorm.
Also, you're probably not going to get raped but it's also not a good idea to go outside of any station once you get to it. But that really applies to most transportation.
Also, they're pretty good these days about not leaving people behind. On my way to Seattle from Omaha and back, every single time they would spend a good 15 minutes walking into the station, announcing over the intercom and going person to person asking which city they're going to, because they have an expected # of people and if it doesn't match they freak out. I almost got left behind once but this was due to the driver being an asshole on that connection, and he put a standby ticket in my seat when I went to go use the bathroom.
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Take a small pillow and blanket with you since you're going to be going for nearly an entire day without a bed. I went during the summer and their AC systems work pretty good but I don't know how well they heat and going up north in winter is bound to be cold.
That being said, MP3 player will be necessary. NECESSARY. Maybe a DS/PSP or something along those lines as well. I personally can't zone out in a book in that environment, cause it's creepy as fuck, the buses, but also make sure anything on you can be secured in a way that you won't be worried about it going missing if you fall asleep. Are you making this trip alone? A buddy would really be your best insurance for a safe trip honestly.
Also, invest in some mace, as being a lady likely puts you at better risk of getting raped. I would also suggest bringing a cushion you can throw away for when you are waiting for your bus to arrive either time, and also bring lots and lots of disinfectant wipes, everything is filthy, just fucking disgustingly fucking filthy. Blankets and Pillow? Bring 'em, but like I said, bring a blanket and pillow you're willing to BURN.
My best advice though? Don't take a Greyhound Bus.
I had a friend while at school in NYC who regularly visited his girlfriend in Canada. He told me that Greyhound's scheduling system for seats is different in Canada. If you buy a ticket in the US, it essentially reserves a seat for you. However, (apparently) in Canada you must buy a seat and then, as a separate instance, get in contact with Greyhound to reserve your seat on said bus.
I'm not sure how valid this is, but I do know my friend once missed 4 classes and was extremely pissed about being held up for the next bus. I'm thinking his recollection, while possibly skewed, must have some basis in reality. Might wanna check into that.
The stupid thing is it would only take me 5 hours to drive straight up there, I just don't have a lot of confidence in my winter driving skills (translation: they are shit). I looked into plane prices but then I remembered land travel is the only way into Canada that you don't need a passport yet. Grrrr.
I would drive if its only 5 hours. As long as you aren't driving in a storm, you should be fine.
I also concur that you should drive yourself there if you can.
Seriously, the worst part would normally be the traffic on Boxing Day with cross-border shoppers, but with the dollars nearly at parity, even that shouldn't be as big a problem as years prior.
Drive it - Canada doesn't become the Arctic at the border.
I'd bring those little alcohol wipes like you get from a hot wing place. Those buses are covered in human body oils, and sweat, and ickiness.
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Do you have triple-A or better world club? Might put your mind more at ease. But no, I did the half-country Greyhound trip thing and, while it definitely worked for moving me across the country, it was generally a bad experience. And expensive -- flying is not much more and a fraction of the time.
Seriously if you're worried about snow or whatever, drive yourself or fly.
Figure out a basic itinerary, and make sure somebody at your destination knows when you're due, and therefore realizes when you're overdue. Think about waypoints, like when you get approximately to your halfway point, call to check in and make and corrections to your time estimate.
I also recommend keeping your vehicle fueled, more than half a tank if possible, just in case you do end up stuck behind a pileup or waiting at the border.
Before you leave, check the forcast for your intended route. Right now where I am, it's -29.3 Celcius, and with the windchill it feels like -38.2 celcius, which is pretty much just as cold in farenheit. Dress appropriately or at least of extra clothing in your car.
I got stuck in weather like this once, minimum 8 miles from the nearest town at 9:30pm (which is four hours after dark this time of year). It took me almost two hours to dig myself out, and I was lucky because I happened to be returning from a training exercise so I had a full set of (firefighter) turnout gear that I could put on. And I did have to dig myself out, being on a rural road, nobody else even drove by during that time. I guess they were all smarter than me, and just stayed home that night.
However, I'd drive it. You might be able to rent a nice Subaru or something else with AWD, makes it quite a bit easier to handle the snow.
I don't understand what all the bitching and moaning about the buses is all about though. I've taken them round trip from Vermont to Boston and DC many times without incident. I don't remember them being dirty except for the bathrooms (avoid these at all costs). Thankfully I'm a dude and could just pee behind a gas station at the next stop.
If you must ride the bus, I can only reiterate to stay the hell out of those bathrooms. Don't drink a lot of fluids unless you're sure you can time up your urination for the next stop. Avoid a lot of junk food because you'll feel terrible just sitting in the bus with it moving through you. A DS lite is a good companion, and a charge should last you most of the trip. Portable movies are the shit IMO, so if you've got a portable player of any kind then consider it. A book is good too. Anything to take your mind and eyes off the road and the endless stretches of trees.
Up here:
When you buy a ticket, it doesn't reserve anything, it's essentially open ended. There are no reserved seats, you just line up and pick a seat when you board. If you don't get there early enough for the busy lines, you have to wait for the next bus (sometimes they'll send a second bus if there is enough people to justify it). Get there an hour before.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
Then he started licking the windows.
The best bet is to sit near the front of the bus and buddy up with another person traveling alone who seems normal, and make sure that they sit next to you.
I was once sold a ticket 10 mins before boarding for a bus that was already oversold. What's more, they sold me a CONNECTING ticket too, that I wasn't going to make. Then told me the next bus that would get me there left in 8 hours.
Vancouver
Also, if you're unsure of what gate you should be at, ALWAYS ALWAYS ask at least 3 people, and take the most common response.
I get the feeling that though you ended your post with 'Vancouver', you really wanted to end it with 'those fucking bastards'.
Just a hunch. Sorry that happened to you.:P
You guys have convinced me, I'm going to say screw Greyhound (and their crazy ass holiday rates--$135 one way, give me a break) and drive it.
Well, I'll be straight with you: if you don't have winter tires and and four wheel drive, you won't make it on the Coquihalla, if it's snowing. You might want to consider driving to Abbotsford, B.C. (just across the line from Sumas, Washington) and taking a commuter flight from the airport there up to Kelowna. It's in the Okanagan, which is like Canada's version of the French Riveria, but it still gets a lot of snow in the winter, much more than anything in the Fraser Valley (where Vancouver is) or Southern Vancouver Island.
Driving or even taking anything that has to go on wheels up the Coquihalla in the wintertime is really inadvisable, unless you really are prepared. If you had a choice between driving yourself and taking the bus, take the bus. They will be prepared, and have chains and everything, so that will be alright. Another suggestion if you want to skim off some time on your trip is to once again drive up to either Abbotsford or Chilliwack and take the Greyhound from there. Chilliwack and Abbotsford are the two last major stops in the Valley, and you can shave a good 2-3 hours off of your trip just by bypassing Vancouver. I don't know where Spokane is in relation to either Abbotsford or Chilliwack, but if it's close to Bellingham or Sumas, it would definitely be worth it to do what I suggested above.
Hope that helps.
As for me, no more night buses. Ever.
Also, you're probably not going to get raped but it's also not a good idea to go outside of any station once you get to it. But that really applies to most transportation.
Also, they're pretty good these days about not leaving people behind. On my way to Seattle from Omaha and back, every single time they would spend a good 15 minutes walking into the station, announcing over the intercom and going person to person asking which city they're going to, because they have an expected # of people and if it doesn't match they freak out. I almost got left behind once but this was due to the driver being an asshole on that connection, and he put a standby ticket in my seat when I went to go use the bathroom.
Oh, and you won't sleep.
I'd recommend the train over the bus if you can manage it. It's just a much nicer way to travel.
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