In the NiGHTS... dreams delight... (No56k) (It is FANTASTIC)

ChewyWaffles

So...it's kinda like Super Mario Bros/Sonic except you're flying the whole time? Is that what I'm seeing? What's the main goal...to collect as many coins as possible?

CheesecakeRecipe

New review is up.

http://wii.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r32203.htm

the tl;dr version:

Nights: Journey of Dreams delivers a second dose of the classic, 2D meets 3D gameplay that made the original Nights a success. It has its share of flaws – the lack of innovation is surprising, and the motion controls are the worst of the bunch. But as a whole, Journey of Dreams is a great adventure that will take you to a world you won’t want to leave.

gilrain

GameFly shipped my copy today, which means I'll be playing it tomorrow night.

METAzraeL

1up gave it a 7
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3165083
They seemed to like the main, classic gameplay a lot, but not all the extra stuff.

Akatsuki

I hate the fact that everyone wanted a sequel, now most people are so blinded by hype and stupid expectations that the game will be viewed as shit.

BlueBlue

I think most people wanted a sequel because they never got to play nights to start with.

PatboyX

BlueBlue wrote: »

I think most people wanted a sequel because they never got to play nights to start with.

I know I fall into that camp. My friend in high school loved this game but I never had the system.

Xagarath

BlueBlue wrote: »

I think most people wanted a sequel because they never got to play nights to start with.

Exactly.

tuxkamen

I suppose I should give a gift as well.

Guek

surprisingly, i'm sitting here understanding where most of these reviews are coming from. a 7-8, eh? so you mean it's fun, worth my time, great to look at, but has its share of minor flaws that wont ruin the game? awesome! the feeling i get is that had it had a smidge more polish, it would have inched the game towards the 8-9 range. sounds good enough for me.

TelMarine

when does this come out? I was running around and no where had it. I was getting tomorrow, thursday, and friday as dates.

AaronKI

ChewyWaffles wrote: »

What's the main goal...to collect as many coins as possible?

Wikipedia wrote:

Nights into Dreams is split into seven levels or "Dreams", each divided further into four "Mares" and a boss battle. At the start of each level, Wizeman's minions steal all the character's Ideya except the rare red type representing courage. The goal of each of the four "Mares" in each level is to recover the stolen Ideya by collecting 20 blue chips and delivering them to the Ideya capture, which will overload and release the orb it holds.

The Mares are linear courses that loop through the level. When you bring an Ideya back to the Ideya Palace at the start of a course, you'll start on the next one and keep going until you've collected all of the Ideya orbs. After that, it will send you to the level's boss battle.

Watching videos where people are playing for high scores can be a bit confusing if you've never played the game. Instead of blowing straight through the level, they'll collect the Ideya and then play the same course over and over until time almost runs out.

gilrain

TelMarine wrote: »

when does this come out? I was running around and no where had it. I was getting tomorrow, thursday, and friday as dates.

It's out now. Those places are slagging you off and then playing in the back room.

Pata

Magic Pink wrote: »

I've heard otherwise about pretty much all of them sadly.

And please. Mario and Sonic at the Olypic Games? You insult me.

You can trust TSR more then pretty much anyone who you could "hear otherwise" from.

Niceguyeddie616

Somebody once told me that Mariah Carey and someone else would sing Dreams Dreams pretty well,



I imagined my ear drums shattering and listened to the a capella version to get my mind off of it

Mblackwell

tuxkamen wrote: »

I suppose I should give a gift as well.

I hate you... because now I'm listening to it... on infinite loop.

Bullio

IGN says 6.5, but who listens to them anymore?

So after waiting over a decade for a new Nights experience, what's the final verdict? Personally, we'd rather have seen this one stay a nostalgic piece of gaming history, as Journey of Dreams isn't exactly the spectacular homecoming we were hoping for as huge fans of the original Saturn classic. The control is too stiff, odd design choices will have players repeating full levels rather than incorporating a simple checkpoint system which would have saved both progress and sanity alike, and there's a huge amount of emphasis put on non-Nights gameplay, having players control the human children in very unrewarding sections, and incorporating sloppy alternate gameplay rather than just focusing on what made the original so captivating in the first place. Nights still has its moments, as the style is there, the entire story is told with full VO (and some decent, if not a bit over-the-top voice acting throughout), and the boss battles specifically are pretty captivating. In the end it's simply a bit too rough all around, too short (less than three hours with each child will see the end), and strays from what made Nights so entertaining in the first place; the simple joy of flight.

Akatsuki

Oh man the intarwebz will be ablaze.

Niceguyeddie616

TSR owns the game, so are they right about having to control the kids through most of it TSR?

Not that it really matters what they say. I'm pretty sure IGN's complaints are bullshit.

Akatsuki

My memory fails me but didn't you control the kids in the original too? I mean, I kinda remember that I had to be on the ground playing crappy and clunky parts and then *boom* I was flying around as NiGHTS. I actually think that was important in the way of contrasting the freedom of the dreamworld to being restrained on the ground.
Of course that if the on ground parts are too long that sucks

AaronKI

Akatsuki wrote: »

My memory fails me but didn't you control the kids in the original too? I mean, I kinda remember that I had to be on the ground playing crappy and clunky parts and then *boom* I was flying around as NiGHTS. I actually think that was important in the way of contrasting the freedom of the dreamworld to being restrained on the ground.
Of course that if the on ground parts are too long that sucks

You were only required to control them for about 4 seconds at the beginning of a level unless you ran out of time while flying. Then you would be dumped on the ground and you would have to run around until you collected an Ideya to free NiGHTS with.

LoveIsUnity

I really, really wish I didn't have a term paper due at 12 tomorrow. I loved the original, and I'm sure that I will love this one. Seriously, I'm so excited to get my hands on this. Thanks for the initial impressions TSR.

TheSonicRetard

Niceguyeddie616 wrote: »

TSR owns the game, so are they right about having to control the kids through most of it TSR?

Not that it really matters what they say. I'm pretty sure IGN's complaints are bullshit.

It's bullshit. 90% of the game is classic NiGHTS. The only difference is, unlike the original, now if you're on the ground you have stuff you can do in addition to the NiGHTS portion of the game.

I've damn near completed the entire game, save for a few drops. Tomorrow, I'm gonna write a full review.

I called it. IGN is fucking stupid.

EDIT: And, to clarify, you are not forced to play as the kids unless, like the original, you run out of time. Just like in the original, you begin each level almost right in front of NiGHTS.

RainbowDespair

I see a lot of the reviews complaining about not being able to skip the story sequences. Is this true even when you're replaying levels you've already beaten?

Akatsuki

So many games are like that, why are reviewers so eager to point that out, when they say nothing about it in other games reviews?
It's not a good thing, but still.

AbsoluteZero

Akatsuki wrote: »

I hate the fact that everyone wanted a sequel, now most people are so blinded by hype and stupid expectations that the game will be viewed as shit.

That's the internet for you.

DeathPrawn

Wait... did IGN mention online play? Why is this the first time I've heard about that?

Saddler

TheSonicRetard wrote: »

Niceguyeddie616 wrote: »

Will I be able to find this if I decide to buy it after Christmas? I would have asked for it but it released so close to Christmas that I knew nobody who's buying me gifts would bother to go out looking for it by now.

yes.

I don't expect it to sell well.

Sega makes something nice and nobody wants it. It really is just like the old days.

Fig-D

Saddler wrote: »

TheSonicRetard wrote: »

Niceguyeddie616 wrote: »

Will I be able to find this if I decide to buy it after Christmas? I would have asked for it but it released so close to Christmas that I knew nobody who's buying me gifts would bother to go out looking for it by now.

yes.

I don't expect it to sell well.

Sega makes something nice and nobody wants it. It really is just like the old days.

Ouch. The truth, it stings.

LewieP

I don't really think we needed any more confirmation of the ineptitude of IGN.

These guys gave God Hand 4.9, I don't understand why anyone with any intelligence would use an IGN review to help influence a purchasing decision.

theprice

Hmm, having to watch the story sequences over again after every death is really annoying in any game, and if this game is supposed to be about replaying a short arcadey experience over and over, then breaking up the action with lots of unskippable cutscenes seems especially unforgivable. Also, even if you only control the kids for 10% of the game (assuming you have TSR's level of Nights skill), that's still 10% of an already short game that isn't fun and as someone who's never played Nights before, I suspect that I'd be spending a lot more time on the ground than that. It sounds like there's a really good game in there in spite of those flaws, but I don't think I'll be picking this up just yet. I really need to sit back down with Zack and Wiki before I buy anything new, Mario Galaxy distracted me but now it's time to get back to puzle solving. This one is probably next on my list once Zack and Wiki is vanquished, though.

urahonky

Sigh... So I had to jump on a deal online for an 8800GTS graphics card priced at $299, instead of $399. Which means, unfortunately, I can't get this game until after the holidays.

bruin

LewieP wrote: »

I don't really think we needed any more confirmation of the ineptitude of IGN.

These guys gave God Hand 4.9, I don't understand why anyone with any intelligence would use an IGN review to help influence a purchasing decision.

Correction: they gave God Hand a 3.0

LewieP

Fucking hell, what was it they gave a 4.9 then?

bruin

Lair

LewieP

Aha, I knew I remembered that number from somewhere. Either way, 3.0 for God Hand is an unforgivable sin. It would take them sacking their entire editorial staff for them to have any credibility in my eyes.

AbsoluteZero

That would be fantastic. Except they'd replace em with janitors.

Magic Pink

So what happens with the weather of you don't have Intarnet? Is it just always sunny or something? Does it randomly decide what to be of a day?

AaronKI

theprice wrote: »

Hmm, having to watch the story sequences over again after every death is really annoying in any game, and if this game is supposed to be about replaying a short arcadey experience over and over, then breaking up the action with lots of unskippable cutscenes seems especially unforgivable. Also, even if you only control the kids for 10% of the game (assuming you have TSR's level of Nights skill), that's still 10% of an already short game that isn't fun and as someone who's never played Nights before, I suspect that I'd be spending a lot more time on the ground than that. It sounds like there's a really good game in there in spite of those flaws, but I don't think I'll be picking this up just yet. I really need to sit back down with Zack and Wiki before I buy anything new, Mario Galaxy distracted me but now it's time to get back to puzle solving. This one is probably next on my list once Zack and Wiki is vanquished, though.

I don't know about the new game, but the original is pretty easy. They give you more than enough time to make it through a course without hitting the ground. You can either play it safe and fly straight back to the Ideya Palace or you can use the extra time to get a huge score for a better grade.

Also, has it been confirmed that the cutscenes are unskippable on future playthroughs yet?


(It will be nice owning a NiGHTS game that doesn't erase my save data because the battery went dead from leaving my Saturn unplugged for a year.)

Mblackwell

Magic Pink wrote: »

So what happens with the weather of you don't have Intarnet? Is it just always sunny or something? Does it randomly decide what to be of a day?

The sky is filled with dead puppies. And baby Jesus crying. Because you don't have your Wii connected to the internet.

Is that what you really want?