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Damaged Goods

KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
edited December 2007 in Social Entropy++
So, my brother is dating a stripper.

She was raped by both of her parents as a child, and had a rape-baby from her father at 14. Now she's 20, and has been living in my brother's room at my parents' house for the past three months.

I've only been home from college a total of maybe three weeks in that time, and she's destroying this family. She demands absolute control over my brother- if he isn't at work, he's in the room caring for her. She has alienated him from friends and family; all his friends supposedly made advances towards her, so he's all but abandoned them. I haven't been able to hang out with him, because that's time she thinks he'd be wasting. Despite this, she still yells at him for not spending enough time with her. She demands he change: and yet, she always complains about the things he provides for her. She wastes the food that my mother generously cooks for her; three days ago, she threw away an entire plate of spaghetti because the sauce was too runny. She calls my brother an idiot for hoping to get a job at the airport. She says he shouldn't have any confidence that he'll get what he wants. She takes showers and baths at 3 AM, when my dad needs to work and my sister needs to go to school that day. She's stolen from my dad's liquor cabinet, and threatened to commit suicide dozens of times. She quit her job because "people were hitting on her." People were hitting on a stripper.

My brother has tried to reason with her. I don't know why he loves her. I don't think he loves her. I'm in the room next to theirs, and I can always hear what they're arguing about. He's always talking calmly and reasonably, and she's always yelling at him. He takes his anger out on the family; for several weeks, my sister and mother feared for their own physical safety around him. They've kicked him out once, a few weeks ago. He had 22 dollars to his name, and begged to be let back in. My parents gave in after he promised that they'd only be here for a week, and then she'd move in with people she knew. Those people didn't want to deal with her, so my brother conned my dad into letting them stay a few weeks more. She wants my brother to either buy her an apartment, or pay for her to live in a hotel. And yet, the continue to live on our money, in this house, eating our food. My father is too old to remove them by force.

My brother believes she is pregnant. Last night, she said she was miscarrying, and my brother took her to the ER three times despite what doctors told him each time. She has no insurance, and he only works part time. I think the fear of a child is the only thing that ties my brother to her.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Simple answer is kill the bitch.

    Harder answer is slap your brother till he fucking realizes what's up.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    tl;dr: I'm sittin' on my throne as the prince of bel air

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    uuuh... wow, so uh... what are we supposed to discuss?

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Belruel wrote: »
    uuuh... wow, so uh... what are we supposed to discuss?

    ...stripper girlfriends?

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    AH'M IN LUV WIT A STRIPPAHHHHHH

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    see

    this is exactly the sort of situation where my advice is, in fact, to murder a human being.

    dr. phil i ain't.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Belruel wrote: »
    uuuh... wow, so uh... what are we supposed to discuss?

    this is one of those "I'm posting this because I needed to get it off my chest" moments

    none of my friends are on AIM right now and I just learned about the goddamn miscarriage

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Yeah, I mean horrible shit happened to her, and it fucked her up. I feel really bad for her.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    Women

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Theidar wrote: »
    Yeah, I mean horrible shit happened to her, and it fucked her up. I feel really bad for her.

    I don't!

    Hell, half that shit could be made up!

    It's not beneath people like that to make their pasts more tragic than they really are to garner sympathy.

    basically kaz i ain't got shit for real advice for you

    since my advice is basically to kill the bitch

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    uuuh... wow, so uh... what are we supposed to discuss?

    this is one of those "I'm posting this because I needed to get it off my chest" moments

    none of my friends are on AIM right now and I just learned about the goddamn miscarriage

    i mean, holy shit.

    she obviously should be kicked out, and not let back in ever

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Theidar wrote: »
    Yeah, I mean horrible shit happened to her, and it fucked her up. I feel really bad for her.

    I did when I first learned about the bad shit, too.

    And then a few days passed and I saw that she uses her past as an excuse. She controls my brother, does terrible things to him and this family, and then cries and pulls a Uriel when anybody asks her why she isn't doing anything about it. My parents are too compassionate to throw a crying, supposedly suicidal mess out on her ass. I wish they weren't.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I recommend psychological help.

    As in several years of intensive therapy.

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    Theidar wrote: »
    Yeah, I mean horrible shit happened to her, and it fucked her up. I feel really bad for her.

    I don't!

    Hell, half that shit could be made up!

    It's not beneath people like that to make their pasts more tragic than they really are to garner sympathy.

    basically kaz i ain't got shit for real advice for you

    since my advice is basically to kill the bitch

    Well if she's lying, then I retract my sympathy and recommend the slightly less extreme leave her in the desert solution.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm a little confused on the miscarriage thing.

    He thought she was pregnant
    She says she's miscarried
    He takes her to three different ERs and they all say she's not pregnant?
    or what?
    huh?

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    My mom said, and I quote, "you want us to call the cops and have you committed?" when she was crying about some bullshit and threatening to down a handfull of my dad's sleeping pills tonight. She responded by covering her ears and screaming.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Damn
    Give your mom a high-five.
    Then tell her to call the cops and have the chick committed.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Theidar wrote: »
    Yeah, I mean horrible shit happened to her, and it fucked her up. I feel really bad for her.

    I did when I first learned about the bad shit, too.

    And then a few days passed and I saw that she uses her past as an excuse. She controls my brother, does terrible things to him and this family, and then cries and pulls a Uriel when anybody asks her why she isn't doing anything about it. My parents are too compassionate to throw a crying, supposedly suicidal mess out on her ass. I wish they weren't.

    alright see

    this is where i say something and people say i am a bad person for saying it

    and that thing is

    people should never be unconditionally loved or tolerated

    there should always be an upper limit to compassion

    there should always be an edge beyond which you just won't put up with a person anymore

    it doesn't matter who this person is, or what their situation is

    there should always be a line

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm a little confused on the miscarriage thing.

    He thought she was pregnant
    She says she's miscarried
    He takes her to three different ERs and they all say she's not pregnant?
    or what?
    huh?

    She claims she's pregnant. Last night, she starts bleeding (a woman bleeding out of her vagina, truely a cause for concern) and tells my brother she's miscarrying. However, at the ER, she doesn't let the doctors confirm that she's pregnant.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    ...

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    My mom said, and I quote, "you want us to call the cops and have you committed?" when she was crying about some bullshit and threatening to down a handfull of my dad's sleeping pills tonight. She responded by covering her ears and screaming.

    Honestly, committing her may be the best solution, especially if she's threatening to kill herself. Although, she's probably lying and doing it to get attention.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    This is a pretty fucked up story.

    I do pity the girl for having such a messed up background, but that's no excuse to ruin other people's lives. It's pretty clear that she needs to go. There really is no alternative that will not result in someone becoming totally miserable.

    If he's worried about a child, he should consider adoption. It doesn't sound like they're really ready to raise a family, and the woman doesn't sound like she'd make much of a mother.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    I'm a little confused on the miscarriage thing.

    He thought she was pregnant
    She says she's miscarried
    He takes her to three different ERs and they all say she's not pregnant?
    or what?
    huh?

    She claims she's pregnant. Last night, she starts bleeding (a woman bleeding out of her vagina, truely a cause for concern) and tells my brother she's miscarrying. However, at the ER, she doesn't let the doctors confirm that she's pregnant.

    okay listen

    i am not a psychologist or nothin'

    but, as is well-known i do have this condition

    fun thing about this condition? i can usually recognize other people who have it

    and this whole situation sounds a lot to me like a textbook case

    you should have the chick bounced to a mental hospital

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Regardless it'll be long enough for him to get his brother to drop her.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I slept with a stripper once, she is the reason i don't like fake boobs. Surprisingly i did not get any disease from her.

    Now your brother, probably swimming with syphilis right now.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    He thought she was pregnant
    She says she's miscarried

    can I make it any more obvious

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    there should always be an edge beyond which you just won't put up with a person anymore

    it doesn't matter who this person is, or what their situation is

    there should always be a line


    I feel this way about her, but not about my brother.

    My brother has been a "mild" fuck-up throughout his life. He dropped outta high school, but went to an alternative school and was getting his shit together, training to be a fireman, etc. before he met her. And the way he's tried to deal with her, I know he really wants all the bullshit to end. But, if we kick her out, we kick him out.

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  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Hell yes have her committed.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    APD people suck for everything in life...

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    My mom said, and I quote, "you want us to call the cops and have you committed?" when she was crying about some bullshit and threatening to down a handfull of my dad's sleeping pills tonight. She responded by covering her ears and screaming.

    Wow.

    That's a mix of both desperately needing therapy, and being a desperate attention whore.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    ok now that condition sounds like half of California to me

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    there should always be an edge beyond which you just won't put up with a person anymore

    it doesn't matter who this person is, or what their situation is

    there should always be a line


    I feel this way about her, but not about my brother.

    My brother has been a "mild" fuck-up throughout his life. He dropped outta high school, but went to an alternative school and was getting his shit together, training to be a fireman, etc. before he met her. And the way he's tried to deal with her, I know he really wants all the bullshit to end. But, if we kick her out, we kick him out.

    that just means your brother hasn't reached that limit yet, which is fine

    but your brother also needs to man the fuck up

    unconditional love is, to quote ted kennedy, "wicked retarded"

    sometimes you need to realize the person you love is a horrible person and needs to be put into an institution before she continues to destroy the lives of others and accept that.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    He thought she was pregnant
    She says she's miscarried

    can I make it any more obvious

    True.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    there should always be an edge beyond which you just won't put up with a person anymore

    it doesn't matter who this person is, or what their situation is

    there should always be a line


    I feel this way about her, but not about my brother.

    My brother has been a "mild" fuck-up throughout his life. He dropped outta high school, but went to an alternative school and was getting his shit together, training to be a fireman, etc. before he met her. And the way he's tried to deal with her, I know he really wants all the bullshit to end. But, if we kick her out, we kick him out.

    Is she one of the only GFs he's ever had? Maybe he's confusing attraction for affection, and needs to realize that there are other girls out there. Girls who are not completely batshit crazy.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    man I feel for your brother and all but I mean this doesn't seem like something fixable

    if he can't get her out of his life you need to get both of them out of yours

    I know it's not that easy though

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    APD people suck for everything in life...

    with the right environment, self-discipline, and possibly medication they can live entirely normal lives with positive relationships with others and be happy

    it just takes work

    and as a lot sociopaths are pretty lazy fuckers

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  • trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Why don't you tell this BITCH to get her fucking ass to the bar and I don't know maybe FUCKING STRIP to make some fucking money THE BITCH


    I mean, I understand that she had a hard life but no excuse for her to act this way.

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I also am not a psychiatrist, and have never met this person. I'd have to say she sounds slight more like this. Still that's very closely related to APSD. I actually prefer interacting with individuals with APSD to Boderline.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Goatmon wrote: »

    Is she one of the only GFs he's ever had? Maybe he's confusing attraction for affection, and needs to realize that there are other girls out there. Girls who are not completely batshit crazy.


    He's had a couple girlfriends before, but they've always been a little off. His first girlfriend stalked him for upwards of a year after they broke up, and almost convinced our current landlord that we were a very, very fucked up family when we moved onto the same street as her.

    My brother is a good person. His girlfriend isn't. But she's putting so much stress on him that he's becoming a bad person and my family is suffering from it and my father is at the age where he very well could die from this sort of stress (plus the other goddamn burdens he's had to carry over the past months) and my little sister shouldn't be living in this environment and I just want to fucking kill the bitch

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