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Metal Gear: Portable ops, I'm confused
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Seriously, how does the 'stealth' work in this game? Even while controlling a new recruit, dressed exactly like the other enemy troops (including pattern and uniform), I can walk right in front of them, basically hi-5 one but the next guy who is dressed exactly like me will turn around and consider me to have my rapeface on or something and will proceeed to raise the alarm when he sees me.
For example, I kidnapped a guard, bundled him into the back of my truck (I really need to stop wanting to shout 'RAGGLE FRAGGLE!' when doing this) and, even though his buddy definatley did not see me and the chameleon icon was still there, when I stood nearby him and he saw me he instantly raised the alarm. Do the guards automatically know that you are the enemy after you kidnap someone, even if they did not see you?
Also, could I wander into the hospital and not piss off the nursing staff if I was controlling a medic, or stand in front of a sargeant and remain unnoticced while controlling one? Does rank matter when disguised? For example, if dressed like a sargeant, will the rest of the regular soldiers notice me?
I could try figuring this out by trial and error but I'v been doing that for the last 3 hours and it's been really pissing me off since the fickleness of the hiding system isn't very well explained and I'm sick of having the alarm raised after I do something I assume was inconspicuous.
Also, the radar, I'm pretty sure I'v gotten to grips with this but I'd like a little clarification. Okay, so, the white spikes indicate the footsteps of the enemy, right? They can only see my character if their vision cone is blue and they can hear my footsteps if I run when the cone is red, all other times I'm practically invisible, right?
I'm trying damn hard to enjoy this game as I friggin loved Snake Eater but PO has been nothing but frustrating for the past 3 hours.
For example, I kidnapped a guard, bundled him into the back of my truck (I really need to stop wanting to shout 'RAGGLE FRAGGLE!' when doing this) and, even though his buddy definatley did not see me and the chameleon icon was still there, when I stood nearby him and he saw me he instantly raised the alarm. Do the guards automatically know that you are the enemy after you kidnap someone, even if they did not see you?
Also, could I wander into the hospital and not piss off the nursing staff if I was controlling a medic, or stand in front of a sargeant and remain unnoticced while controlling one? Does rank matter when disguised? For example, if dressed like a sargeant, will the rest of the regular soldiers notice me?
I could try figuring this out by trial and error but I'v been doing that for the last 3 hours and it's been really pissing me off since the fickleness of the hiding system isn't very well explained and I'm sick of having the alarm raised after I do something I assume was inconspicuous.
Also, the radar, I'm pretty sure I'v gotten to grips with this but I'd like a little clarification. Okay, so, the white spikes indicate the footsteps of the enemy, right? They can only see my character if their vision cone is blue and they can hear my footsteps if I run when the cone is red, all other times I'm practically invisible, right?
I'm trying damn hard to enjoy this game as I friggin loved Snake Eater but PO has been nothing but frustrating for the past 3 hours.
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As far as I know, you can't 'stealth by costuming' or by using the right units. Stealth is how it is when you're snake; If they see you, they will shoot, so don't let them see you.
Second, as for how the radar, somethin' like that, yeah.
Guards dressed the same as you should not raise the alarm unless you bump into them, run, shoot or unless they for some reason are a higher rank. I'm not sure what happens if you grab someone of your same uniform and then go back still disguised though.
If you're dressed as a higher rank officer, lower rank officers won't care, but other officers might. Can't remember atm.
I never bother with disguises though. Playing as Big Boss all the way is just so much more rewarding. Where's the fun in blatantly walking right past everyone?
EDIT: You might want to check if you have the correct weapon equipped.
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Well, I know you can't sneak as a unit that is not snake, but I'm 100% certian certian units will not recognise you if you are dressed like them
I remember sneaking with ze stealth key.(triangle, if my memory has not failed.)
Sorry, I meant to say you can sneak as another unit but it arouses suspicion
I always found it weird that they decided not to utilize the PSP's analog sensitivity and decided to dedicate a whole key to be a walk function though. Yes I realize this is a very old observation but I'm just saying.
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Walking is very stealthy.
Plus, it's also the key to go up against a wall.
Oh well, I'm not a good MGS: PO player anyways. All usin' the other troops the same way I do snake, with shotguns and hiding behind stuff....
That got me like a million times.
No, no, no, I figured that out a long time ago. Right, that's it, even when abandoning the whole 'dress as a bad guy approach' I nearly whipped my PSP out of my window in frustration playing just now. Screw this game, I'v had no fun whatsoever with it aside from a few multiplayer matches.
MGSPO is like one of the easiest PSP games I've ever played
Granted MP mode is only real fun with 4 or more players
But SP mode has a pretty cool storyline to keep you going.
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I don't know, I think it's the combination of all these unexplained mechanics, steep learning curve and my unfamiliarity with the PSP, plus the analouge stick seriously sucks ass.
-You can only be disguised and protected from the same units you're dressed as. Grunts won't be suspicious of other grunts, officers won't be for other officers, ect. Even if there's an officer in the level, if you are also an officer, any grunt will spot you. There's zero concept of logic and rank. Put simply, anything that doesn't look like you will try and kill you (side note: There's no difference between long sleeved grunts and short sleeved grunts, and there's usually no difference with gender FYI). Accessories such as weapons though, do NOT matter. Nobody will care if you're barehanded or carrying a rocket launcher.
-That giant blue lizard icon on the upper left of the screen. I think it's supposed to be a chameleon, who the fuck knows. Either way, if that's up, you're disguised. If it's not, then disregard everything above, you WILL be spotted by anybody. The icon can vanish for any number of reasons. Tiptoeing, crouching, aiming a weapon in first person, ect. If a guard is supsicious (for example, knocking on a wall), the icon will vanish until he goes back to his patrol. Until then, anybody can spot you. Yes, this includes the grunt on the other side of the map who logically should have no problem with you.
That's it really. I'll repeat the most important part. Anything that doesn't look like you will kill you. Once you realize that little quirk, things get a little easier.
I could never figure out why I would have the chameleon thing up there and still get seen by someone. it makes sense though that if he's not a grunt, but an officer, then he'd see me because I was a grunt. That makes sense and answers my question as to why he would see through the chameleon. Actually, I think that's pretty much by big complaint. anything else is either camera related or a technicality, and not on the gameplay. so...thanks
Come to think of it I wasn't actually that sneaky or subtle in MGS3 when I beat it on extreme, I'd quite happily shank anyone who came across my path if they were in the way of my target or use an RPG launcher if I knew it would definatley get rid of some annoying adverasry. Guess I just need to try tapping into that 'ruthless' mindset again instead of frutilessley trying to be sneaky and stealthy all the time and flipping out when I get spotted.
Jesus christ I have some serious anger issues :P
All we had to do was look at your sig to know this. :P
At least I don't feel as bad killing them now.
Are you sure because I remember I was walking around as an officer and the usual balaclava-clad grunts didn't do anything to me once.
Maybe I'm dreaming but if it was really limited to whomever you were dressed as not being fooled by your disguise that would be a pretty limited system since you'd basically have to keep looking out for anyone different all the time.
Also honestly it's not that hard to just sneak by everyone as Big Boss or just tranq everyone silently one at a time.
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