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So... tell me about the Asus EEE PC

VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
You know -- this little sucker. According to the reviews, it's a very cool little ultraportable. And Linux-based to boot. (I understand it can run XP, but wouldn't that be kind of missing the point?).

I'll mainly be using it for comms -- mail, surfing, and so on -- with maybe some light wordprocessing and a couple of simple spreadsheets. Mmmaybe a terminal window once in a great while. No heavy-duty use. I'm city-based, so I'll have ample wifi access from libraries and coffeehouses.

So, my PA brothers, advise me. Tell me of pros and cons not covered by reviews. Tell me of your experiences with the EEE. Tell me of your homeworld, Usul.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I haven't gotten to use one yet, but I've been following the mod forums pretty heavily, and I say it's definately worth the money if you just want something to do the basics. I've seen reviews where people modded a couple of usb ports into the hard drive compartment so they could fit thumb drives and in doing so they up the hard drive space to like 32 gigs.

    I say get one...


    Also, Usul is full of crimson fury, and darkness.....

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Check out the http://forum.eeeuser.com/

    it runs WoW... seriously WTF?

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Check out the http://forum.eeeuser.com/

    it runs WoW... seriously WTF?

    I meant to link that forum...

    also, WoW is a joke. I run wow on a 633 mhz celeron with some retarded 400-something meg ram combo spanning three slots, and a 64 meg ati radeon 2nd gen (7500 series). I get a little over 30fps in the field. around 20 in ironforge, and on low level pvp I'm fine....

    I did tweak the system a little though to basically shut down everything but the pc itself when wow runs.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The rumors at CES about a model with a larger screen are somewhat premature; according to the ASUS reps such a model is at least 12 months away, and more likely 18. There will be models with more mem and wimax come - probably - summer, early autumn ie. 6-8 months. And probably more colors too.

    Oh, and a model with Win XP. I don't really see the point of this, considering my intended use of the EEE. 8-)

    Sadly us EUro-peons won't be seeing any EEE's with localized keyböårds before march, more likely april. The silver lining of this is that it will give devs plenty of time to work out the kinks in the Xubuntu EEE version.

    So all in all, I'm a happy but impatient man.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    why would you want one with a larger screen ? that kind of defeats the purpose... if you want a bigger screen get a regular laptop

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I do agree that enlarging the EEE would defeat the purpose, absolutely -- but what I meant was that there's supposedly another EEE coming with a larger screen, approximately 9" but still within the same form factor. If you look at one of the pictures, you can see that a large area on the inside lid is actually a pair of speakers, not screen.

    This supposed new model would ditch the speakers and fill out the entire inside of the lid with screen -- eyeballing it, I'd guess you could squeeze in another inch, maybe even an inch and a half.

    I'm going for portability, so getting more screen without increasing size is tres cool! But I'll probably crack and just get the largest (speaking in terms of memory) EEE I can within a month of the Scandinavian release. I can't wait for more than a year to get my precious; I haven't geeked this much out over a computer since the Amiga. :lol:

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    We have a few here at work, bought with the idea that they would be great to carry around for taking quick notes.

    Nobody uses them. The consensus here is that the keyboard is just too dang small to be usable; none of us can even come close to touch typing on the thing. For most of us, even our index fingers will hit multiple keys simultaneously. You end up doing an awkward type with your pinky finger maneuver. And most of us don't have large hands.

    The touchpad is similarly overly small and awkward.

    I never had a chance to use the default linux installation, but I did use one with XP installed on it. The non-standard screen res (800x480) really hurts it in XP, because XP will pop up modal dialog boxes that are larger than the screen, so you can't see the button you want to hit to dismiss the thing.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Yeah, the reviews did mention that the keyboard is undersized. As I have medium-sized hands, and use some kind of 4-to-5 finger system it may not be a problem, especially considering that I don't intend to use it as a heavy-duty work station.

    But I will try before I buy, just in case. As I don't intend to use XP, I don't see the non-standard screen size as a problem.

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  • suadeosuadeo Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I have had one for about a month. I really like it. The default modded-Xandros OS is ok, but it lacked some things I wanted in a OS. So I installed Archlinux on it. It runs great, feels solid and is damn small.

    As far as the keyboard is concerned, it is small. My hands are by no means small, but I got use to rather quickly. The problem I had was going from the EEE keyboard to a regular keyboard. As I said, I love my EEE. Its the perfect portable laptop for me. It can fit it in a pocket(!) in my messenger bag leaving room for my books in the main compartment.

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  • NibbleNibble Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

    Yea, but it doesn't have a SSD, it has a HDD. The SSD of the EEE is a lot more appealing to me since it allows it to boot up extremely quickly.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Drakeon wrote: »
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

    Yea, but it doesn't have a SSD, it has a HDD. The SSD of the EEE is a lot more appealing to me since it allows it to boot up extremely quickly.

    That everex machine looks sexxy. I have an EEE, and I really don't use it. The SSD is really limited; apparently flash wears down after so many writing cycles, and so if you accidently install EXT3 or NTFS as your file system, you halve the lifespan of the drive. Plus, once you tweak/replace the standard OS (either xandrosEEE or XP with all the eee drivers installed), the boot time doubles. All I did was install KDE3 to the standard install, and now the machine takes two or three times as long to boot (it boots to the original GUI, then reboots to KDE).

    Personally, I've been waiting for the xubuntu distro for eee to cook a little longer. Now that I see the everex machine, I might even be a little jealous (it looks far more full fledged at only a slight size/weight cost).

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  • Eat_FireEat_Fire Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Drakeon wrote: »
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

    Yea, but it doesn't have a SSD, it has a HDD. The SSD of the EEE is a lot more appealing to me since it allows it to boot up extremely quickly.

    That everex machine looks sexxy. I have an EEE, and I really don't use it. The SSD is really limited; apparently flash wears down after so many writing cycles, and so if you accidently install EXT3 or NTFS as your file system,you halve the lifespan of the drive. Plus, once you tweak/replace the standard OS (either xandrosEEE or XP with all the eee drivers installed), the boot time doubles. All I did was install KDE3 to the standard install, and now the machine takes two or three times as long to boot (it boots to the original GUI, then reboots to KDE).

    Personally, I've been waiting for the xubuntu distro for eee to cook a little longer. Now that I see the everex machine, I might even be a little jealous (it looks far more full fledged at only a slight size/weight cost).


    if you reread your post there apparently formatting a hard drive halves the life but not rewriting information on it (adding, copying, and deleting). Formatting doesn't do anything special to make the SSD last only half as long.

    Between the 3 of these laptops I would like to see how the service records stack up. From what I have read so far the eeePC's don't breakdown alot or anything, what about the other 2?

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Eat_Fire wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Drakeon wrote: »
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.

    Yea, but it doesn't have a SSD, it has a HDD. The SSD of the EEE is a lot more appealing to me since it allows it to boot up extremely quickly.

    That everex machine looks sexxy. I have an EEE, and I really don't use it. The SSD is really limited; apparently flash wears down after so many writing cycles, and so if you accidently install EXT3 or NTFS as your file system,you halve the lifespan of the drive. Plus, once you tweak/replace the standard OS (either xandrosEEE or XP with all the eee drivers installed), the boot time doubles. All I did was install KDE3 to the standard install, and now the machine takes two or three times as long to boot (it boots to the original GUI, then reboots to KDE).

    Personally, I've been waiting for the xubuntu distro for eee to cook a little longer. Now that I see the everex machine, I might even be a little jealous (it looks far more full fledged at only a slight size/weight cost).


    if you reread your post there apparently formatting a hard drive halves the life but not rewriting information on it (adding, copying, and deleting). Formatting doesn't do anything special to make the SSD last only half as long.

    Between the 3 of these laptops I would like to see how the service records stack up. From what I have read so far the eeePC's don't breakdown alot or anything, what about the other 2?

    My bad. Using a journaling filesystem halves the life of the drive, because they continuously write and index information in the background.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2008
    I'm curious, and since internet is being really slow to the asus page today, do these things support wireless network cards, like you'd get from AT&T, verizon etc?

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Nibble wrote: »
    Keep in mind that Everex is coming out with a similar machine with better specs this month -- 30GB HDD, 5 hours of battery life (!), 1.3MP webcam, and a $400 price tag. If you really only want the basics, though, the 2GB EEE PC for $300 may be a better deal.
    That doesn't look half bad, but I'm not sure Everex is represented in Denmark. A quick search didn't reveal any shops with Everest products.

    Still, if it shows up here I'll definitely have to take it into consideration.

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  • NibbleNibble Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    robothero wrote: »
    I'm curious, and since internet is being really slow to the asus page today, do these things support wireless network cards, like you'd get from AT&T, verizon etc?

    They'll take the USB ones, but not PC cards.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    It has built-in wireless.

    I have one and absolutely love it. The battery life is very decent, and the keyboard isn't as bad as you'd expect. However, the version of Xandros they have is very restrictive, up to the point where you can't actually install anything extra without replacing the OS - although most of us would probably want to do that.

    Luckily, they have thought of everything you'd want for casual use - it's got Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin, Skype, OpenOffice and Amarok, as well as direct linkage to Google Docs. Boots in about 30 secs (not 15 as they claim).

    Be aware, though, that you'll probably want to plug an SD card in. On my 4GB model, the OS takes about 2.3GB of that.

    I highly recommend it.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    It has built-in wireless.
    I think you're misunderstanding.

    He's talking about ExpressCards like this one here, that allow for mobile broadband access (essentially creating a private WiFi hotspot, where one might not otherwise exist).

    And Nibble is right, these machines do not have the necessary slot; you're limited to USB.

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  • MuragoMurago Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    i bought one for my g/f for xmas. she is loving it. I even think its really neat.

    that is all

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm kinda trying to hold out for the newer model which has the slightly larger screen, but the temptation and lack of a release date is killing me.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The only thing that bothers me screen-wise is the height. The new screen apparently has the same ratio.

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