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Democratic Debates
Elki
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The two debates are held back-to-back, but I thought it would be a good idea to have two separate threads.
Criteria to be a candidate in this debate: Place first through fourth in Iowa, poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major New Hampshire surveys, or poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major national surveys.
Location: Manchester, New Hampshire
Network: ABC
Date & Time: January 5th, 9:00 P.M. EST
Candidates:
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Barack Obama
Bill Richardson
Candidates who do not meet the criteria:
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Moderators: Charles Gibson
Webstream: ???
This is not the general primaries thread. General primaries talk goes here.
Criteria to be a candidate in this debate: Place first through fourth in Iowa, poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major New Hampshire surveys, or poll 5 percent or higher in one of the last four major national surveys.
Location: Manchester, New Hampshire
Network: ABC
Date & Time: January 5th, 9:00 P.M. EST
Candidates:
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Barack Obama
Bill Richardson
Candidates who do not meet the criteria:
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Moderators: Charles Gibson
Webstream: ???
This is not the general primaries thread. General primaries talk goes here.
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For Hillary, but Edwards was rather nice in his concession speech. He might not be throwing too many elbows Obama's way.
You know, the one I'm talking about. Where he conceded his defeat in Iowa.
I would pay good money to watch a pay-per-view event of Edwards and Obama just rhetorically wail on Clinton. Actually, I supposed I'd pay good money for any decent debate, as opposed to the coordinated press conferences we've gotten, but it being the two I like against the one I don't particularly care for is just icing on the cake.
The downside is that Richardson will get roughly 1/4 of the time. :x
We could have had a debate with only the candidates that mattered!
Well, he also got fourth in Iowa, didn't he?
Yes, with an astounding 2% of the vote.
Seriously, what snowballs chance in hell does anyone have of winning with that result? The following candidates should be allowed in a debate: Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Huckabee, McCain, Romney, Guliani. Perhaps Paul because he outperformed expectations of zero votes in Iowa but thats it.
Thompson tied McCain, so he should probably get forced out of bed and behind a podium too.
I ignored Thompson because I don't think he would really appreciate the sentiment.
As a fellow lazy person I do respect the man, though.
Also, we can't have a Thompson presidency. Think the Bush vacations, then double. He'd probably spend more time on vacation then on the job.
On the other hand, I'm not doing anything tomorrow and I like to watch debates. So fuck it let's do this thing.
Ha?
For Edwards, he needs to beef up on hitting Hillary too in order to swipe anyone he can from that camp, make sure she doesn't get ahead of him. How he plays Obama is his call. His big problem is standing out. He's in the big three, but he's just the third wheel right now. It's Obama vs. Clinton, and then this other guy too. What Edwards needs is the kind of line that gets played ten years down the road. The 'you're no Jack Kennedy' caliber of line.
Hillary, meanwhile, is backed into a corner. If she loses to Obama again, I think she's toast. Inevitability is gone. Her 'change' stance, the media isn't buying in the slightest. 'Let's all come together' can't be used anymore either, because voters won't necessarily come together behind HER. She needs to attack. She needs to hit Obama hard, and hit him in a way he can't immediately turn back on her like he's done before. That's the key- she has to hit, and hope Obama doesn't play Rhetorical Judo Master. If Obama judos her attack, she's screwed.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But he's the only candidate in the race that has been a governer or an ambassador! This must mean something because he's been repeating it ad nauseum over the duration of his campaign! Right!...?
He's said that he's a governor as often as Dodd has said 'here' or Rudy has said 'islamofacist.' (nothing can outnumber the references to 9-11, I doubt even the word 'the' could compete)
The debate is after noon.
Are you trying to say he's not a morning person?
The fact that it stuffed the Clinton Cackle back down her throat was just icing on the cake.
It was an observation made before, if memory serves. His speeches done in the morning are not as good as those done in the afternoon.
Yep. The only problem is now we need to chose between playing the 9//1 drinking game or being sober enough to actually understand the Dem debate.
During the Repub debate, everyone was asked about Obama. Almost all of them sounded like they wanted to make out with him. Thompson called him a liberal and Giulianni was a dick about it, but everyone else swooned for Obama. It was weird.
And McCain and Huckabee hugged him when they all got on stage.
They ought to put the wrong audiences in the debates and see what gets booed.
"Everyone was looking to see who'd kiss Hillary."
Where the hell do they get these newscasters?
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They've been around for a while.
Well, at least they're honest.
I've been watching hockey inbetween so I guess I missed them initially.
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