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@ CES: Blu-ray Movies transferable to PSP from PS3

BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Games and Technology
Sony Demos Copying From Blu-ray Disc


The concept of copying a lower-resolution version of a film from a packaged media disc to a portable device is not new--in fact, late last year, Fox and Warner released the first standard definition titles to offer this capability (on Live Free, Die Hard and Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix, respectively).

Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

"There was always the promise of greater interactivity. You'll see that coming in the new year," Bishop added. In addition to the PSP copying example, Sony also demonstrated how you could download ring tones and new content to a BD Live player, using Men in Black as the example.

BD Live is proving to be a big catchphrase at the show: Panasonic announced its BD Live player yesterday, Fox showcased an early version of its Alien vs. Predator multiplayer game at the Blu-ray Disc Association's booth, and Sony showed its interactive Men in Black trivia game. The game was being played by two people in two locations on a Playstation 3.

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html


Apparently movies that support 2.0 functionality will allow you to transfer Blu-ray movie's to a memory stick using your PS3 and then watch it on your PSP.

I think I need to buy a PSP.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So, given the size of a PSP screen, and the size of flash memory cards, is this really a big deal? Is it really any better than just copying over a movie downloaded or ripped from a DVD?

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    this says little of the lost image quality regarding the HD nature of where the copy is sourced from....


    ...but its a company essentially endorsing making copies for use with other devices, and that's pretty cool.


    edit: fellow above misses the point. movie downloading is illegal, and ripping dvds is not something offered AFAIK from Sony

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  • Radikal_DreamerRadikal_Dreamer Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Holy cow... So maybe Sony WILL let us copy our PS1 games and put them to a memory stick at some point. I mean, if they allow movies... holy shit.

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    There are some folks like me that are buying in HD format exclusively. This gives me a portable way to watch my movies ... really it's another reason in a rapidly growing list to buy a PSP for anyone that owns a PS3 already.

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  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well this is by far the best solution to the UMD video fiasco the PSP has had. Is there any description to the nature of these copying? will I be only able to copy to the memory stick x amount of times? will I only be able to watch it on the PSP a few times?

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    There are some folks like me that are buying in HD format exclusively. This gives me a portable way to watch my movies ... really it's another reason in a rapidly growing list to buy a PSP for anyone that owns a PS3 already.

    Well I'll agree then that for you, it's great (so long as a movie you want doesn't come out exclusively for HD-DVD or something).
    For most people though, you have to admit, this doesn't mean much.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The worst part about this:

    The fact that you have to buy a fucking PS3 to take advantage of it.

    To get anything useful out of the PSP you have buy a $400 accessory for it. Great.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    This is really good news. Even ignoring all the people who don't have both a PSP and PS3, this is company endorsing the copying of legitimately bought movies to multiple devices. Sony has really raised the bar with their handheld and console connectivity innovations.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The worst part about this:

    The fact that you have to buy a fucking PS3 to take advantage of it.

    To get anything useful out of the PSP you have buy a $400 accessory for it. Great.

    To get any use out of a PSP, you could try buying any of the AAA titles it has. :P

    And oh, imagine that, to get this extra level of functionality from a Blu-Ray movie, you have to have the cheapest BR player to do it. How is that a bad thing?

    I might, someday, take advantage of this. Right now I'm stuck with a POS TV though.

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  • MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The worst part about this:

    The fact that you have to buy a fucking PS3 to take advantage of it.

    To get anything useful out of the PSP you have buy a $400 accessory for it. Great.


    I havent yet used any of the PSP->PS3 connectivity features and I get plenty out of my PSP. I use it more than my DS in fact. And I play games with it. Store bought PSP titles. There are plenty.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Not to stir up the hornet's nest, but... couldn't they be able to transfer regular DVDs the same way?

    I mean the ability to do it with Blu-ray is cool and all, but it's a bit... odd that DVD is left out.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.


    I haven't been following the format war that closely but I don't think there are many PC's with Blu-ray Players in them yet right?

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    They're just starting to get to where you might consider buying one, though I'd still wait a while for it.

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  • PbPb Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    The worst part about this:

    The fact that you have to buy a fucking PS3 to take advantage of it.

    To get anything useful out of the PSP you have buy a $400 accessory for it. Great.

    To get any use out of a PSP, you could try buying any of the AAA titles it has. :P

    And oh, imagine that, to get this extra level of functionality from a Blu-Ray movie, you have to have the cheapest BR player to do it. How is that a bad thing?

    I might, someday, take advantage of this. Right now I'm stuck with a POS TV though.

    Wait, you're telling me that to take advantage of Blu-Ray movies on a device that doesn't play Blu-Ray movies you have to involve a Blu-Ray player somewhere in the equation?

    This is preposterous! Those money-grubbing whores at Sony want to bleed me to the last drop! Like Folgers!

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  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Whoa this is GREAT news :D

    My blu-ray libary is just starting and I can definetly see myself creating a PSP-friendly format of 'em and watching blu-ray movies while flying to work.

    Something tells me my 8GB pro duo isn't going to be able to carry many movies though haha.

    As said earlier, now they've gotta add the option to play PS1 games on your psp. Come ooooon GT2!

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  • MonaroMonaro Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    er... Pb I hope you're not digging at Lord Yod - he was pointing out that exact same point as you.
    So, given the size of a PSP screen, and the size of flash memory cards, is this really a big deal? Is it really any better than just copying over a movie downloaded or ripped from a DVD?

    Because it's a hell of a lot more convenient? Throw your disc in and hit a button? I hate ripping movies on a PC. All that ripping/encoding BS. This will bring a lot more convenience to doing it yourself (not to mention people who aren't computer-savvy enough to do the current alternative). Plus it is a step in the right direction of Fair Use. Something I never thought I'd see Sony embrace.

    So, it looks like Sony is refining the console-handheld integration we've been promised since GBA/GC. They really are making great progress and I'm looking forward to what else will eventually come out of it. The PSP seems to be getting a late surge thanks in some small part to the PS3? Perhaps they will help each other's markets grow. Would be an interesting study to see how they complement each others sales.

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  • GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    This sounds AWESOME.

    But I would think the movies would be, like, fucking huge.

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  • robcat09robcat09 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Graviija wrote: »
    This sounds AWESOME.

    But I would think the movies would be, like, fucking huge.

    I am guessing a new firmware for the ps3 will give it this functionality and basically convert the video to a size appropriate for the psp screen. Hopefully there will be quality options involved. So, a movie could be 200megs or so.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Um... Whoop-de-doo?

    Who really wants to spend 2 hours watching a movie on a PSP?

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Um... Whoop-de-doo?

    Who really wants to spend 2 hours watching a movie on a PSP?

    People on long trips where there is dick all to do for ridiculous hours?

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  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Reznik wrote: »
    Um... Whoop-de-doo?

    Who really wants to spend 2 hours watching a movie on a PSP?

    People on long trips where there is dick all to do for ridiculous hours?

    I'm on a plane for nearly 3 hours every week. This feature was built for me :D

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  • ze swift classze swift class Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    This is awesome stuff. Anyone who thinks this isn't is most likely missing the point.

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  • Drunk_caterpillarDrunk_caterpillar Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I am thrilled by this news, and I hope this feature is somehow migrated over to the iPod line someday soon.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.


    I haven't been following the format war that closely but I don't think there are many PC's with Blu-ray Players in them yet right?

    Dell now sells their laptops with BR drives....

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.


    I haven't been following the format war that closely but I don't think there are many PC's with Blu-ray Players in them yet right?

    Dell now sells their laptops with BR drives....

    Besides that, do you really need to transfer a Blu-Ray movie to your PSP? It isn't like you are going to keep the HD image.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.


    I haven't been following the format war that closely but I don't think there are many PC's with Blu-ray Players in them yet right?

    Dell now sells their laptops with BR drives....

    Besides that, do you really need to transfer a Blu-Ray movie to your PSP? It isn't like you are going to keep the HD image.

    My response wasn't to say its "pointless" to have movies on your PSP, I was just replying to Absolute.. letting him know that "PC's" are on the way to having BR players in them.

    As for the PSP... I think it kicks ass. Between having a choice of being able to load movies from my PS3 to PSP and not being able to... I choose being able to... why the fuck not? Its not costing me anything extra, and its a feature thats there, if I choose to use it.

    Personally, I can see myself using this. Where I work, I work 12 hour shifts, I'm not alloud to bring in a laptop, but I can sneak in a PSP. So for me, movies on my PSP is a huge ++++. Being able to copy them from my PS3 to PSP is cool, because A) I don't have to worry about "illegal copies" B) I don't have to worry about a "bad rip"/piss poor quality from joeblow22online.

    Anyone trying to spin this as a "bad thing", is nothing but jealous... seriously.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bamelin wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    So this is basically for peopel without access to a PC right?

    I don't quite get the point.


    I haven't been following the format war that closely but I don't think there are many PC's with Blu-ray Players in them yet right?

    Dell now sells their laptops with BR drives....

    Besides that, do you really need to transfer a Blu-Ray movie to your PSP? It isn't like you are going to keep the HD image.

    My response wasn't to say its "pointless" to have movies on your PSP, I was just replying to Absolute.. letting him know that "PC's" are on the way to having BR players in them.

    As for the PSP... I think it kicks ass. Between having a choice of being able to load movies from my PS3 to PSP and not being able to... I choose being able to... why the fuck not? Its not costing me anything extra, and its a feature thats there, if I choose to use it.

    Personally, I can see myself using this. Where I work, I work 12 hour shifts, I'm not alloud to bring in a laptop, but I can sneak in a PSP. So for me, movies on my PSP is a huge ++++. Being able to copy them from my PS3 to PSP is cool, because A) I don't have to worry about "illegal copies" B) I don't have to worry about a "bad rip"/piss poor quality from joeblow22online.

    Anyone trying to spin this as a "bad thing", is nothing but jealous... seriously.

    I totally agree. I was in IRC when this hit, and I told everyone in the room about it, and got responses ranging from "that's stupid" to "thats really fucking stupid."

    All I could do was close the window while thinking "since when is added functionality stupid?" at worst, you never use it, at best you have yet ANOTHER option for portable video. At this rate, the PSP has so many options for playing video on the go it's outstanding. You can copy it over from the PC, rip it from the PS3, play it from a UMD, stream it online from the PS3, download it from the internet... how is that possibly a bad thing?

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  • MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm wondering how long it takes to transcode the video. Blu-Ray is H.264/AVC and the PSP plays AVC so the job is basically recoding the video in a lower resolution, resizing the video frame by frame. If Sony utilizes the computing power available (think Folding@Home) for this task it could be a lot faster than the same process on most people's PC's. In that way it would be better than doing the same on a PC.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    meatflower wrote: »
    I'm wondering how long it takes to transcode the video. Blu-Ray is H.264/AVC and the PSP plays AVC so the job is basically recoding the video in a lower resolution, resizing the video frame by frame. If Sony utilizes the computing power available (think Folding@Home) for this task it could be a lot faster than the same process on most people's PC's. In that way it would be better than doing the same on a PC.

    Well, the PS3 can create icons from 1080p videos by converting them to smaller resolution videos frame by frame. It converts 15 seconds of video in about 2 seconds for reference. So... do the math, I guess :lol:

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

    Because it is time and money spent on a feature that doesn't add a whole lot of value for most people. That translates into inflated cost to pay for these features we could do without.

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  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm not sure what demographic you're refering to Absolute, but by the response in this thread this added functionality is a very good thing.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

    Because it is time and money spent on a feature that doesn't add a whole lot of value for most people. That translates into inflated cost to pay for these features we could do without.

    But the cost of these units keep falling so... how does that work?

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

    Because it is time and money spent on a feature that doesn't add a whole lot of value for most people. That translates into inflated cost to pay for these features we could do without.

    But the cost of these units keep falling so... how does that work?

    Not your video iPod. That didn't come out at a lower price point than previous models. Or did it?

    As far as the PSP is concerned, it is still time and money that could have been spent on something that would have added more value to the product. That is more or less Sony's loss, and doesn't make me want to invest in a PSP.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

    Because it is time and money spent on a feature that doesn't add a whole lot of value for most people. That translates into inflated cost to pay for these features we could do without.

    But the cost of these units keep falling so... how does that work?

    Not your video iPod. That didn't come out at a lower price point than previous models. Or did it?

    As far as the PSP is concerned, it is still time and money that could have been spent on something that would have added more value to the product. That is more or less Sony's loss, and doesn't make me want to invest in a PSP.

    you can get an ipod that plays video or under $150 now. So yeah, video ipods did fall in price.

    And the PSP also fell in price, and like it or not, this does add value to the PSP. There's a difference between "this doesn't appeal to me" and "this is value-less."

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Ive never understood the backlash against extra functionality myself.

    Well, to be sure, it's not specifically a PSP hate thing. I remember similar backlash when apple announced video on the ipod.

    I do honestly think it's jealousy. anytime some fancy expensive toy gets a neat new function, you see people popping in to down play it.

    Because it is time and money spent on a feature that doesn't add a whole lot of value for most people. That translates into inflated cost to pay for these features we could do without.

    But the cost of these units keep falling so... how does that work?

    Not your video iPod. That didn't come out at a lower price point than previous models. Or did it?

    As far as the PSP is concerned, it is still time and money that could have been spent on something that would have added more value to the product. That is more or less Sony's loss, and doesn't make me want to invest in a PSP.

    But it is adding value to the product, at least in Sony's eye, and in a business sense.
    Sony's been adamant about them wanting to push PSP-PS3 connectivity since the very beginning. And since the PS3's launch, they been doing just that with adding features. This is just another logical step.
    And say someone buys a PS3 and hear about all the stuff that the PSP can do with it. Those extra features could lead to a purchase of a PSP from said person.

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm going to throw my lot in and say this is a great feature. I would use this. If my brother and I hadn't bought a PSP back when they first came out I would go and buy a slim one. Since I don't have much of a use for Skype at this point in time I'll try waiting for the official PSP2 before buying a new one.

    But either way my brother rips a ton of DVDs to his video Ipod and I look forward to doing it with the PSP now.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well... I just got Superbad on BR a day ago (came with a $5 gift card that was used to also purchase Grandmas Boy ... it was only 6.95 at target) so the sooner I can get Superbad on my PSP the better :)

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