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Once again, further proof that mainstream press shouldn't let just anyone cover games! National Public Radio's Chana Joffe-Walt has an interview with Halo: Contact Harvest author Joseph Staten. The book was a New York Times best seller, but Joffe-Walt couldn't care less. Not only is she ignorant about gaming, she's brings her own ill-informed prejudices to the the interview. There are exchanges like this:
Joffe-Walt: "Yes, my fellow non-gaming Luddites, there is a story to Halo. I know, I thought the same thing. Isn't gaming all just shoot'em up? Why do you need story?"
Staten: "I think to understand why stories are important in games, you need to actually play them."
But wait, there's more! That, after the jump.
Joffe-Walt: "Which brings me to another frank and ridiculous question, 'Do gamers read?'" (Keep in mind, she's asking a NY Times best selling author this.)
And lastly...
Staten: "You're dealing with an internet connection, high savvy audience." Joffe-Walt: "Geeks, you're dealing with geeks."
And we're dealing with a hack journo. We're not asking you to be an expert, just respectful.
I was pretty disappointed with this, so I gave Chana a call *COUGH ###-###-####* to let her know.
I always like it when someone plays off knowing about technology as a BAD things. It will be awesome in the future when these people are utterly incapable of doing any job. I already see this somewhat now at my work, there are people who refuse to learn about any new technology and take 5 to 6 times as long to do their job as someone whos moderately familiar with computers.
I always like it when someone plays off knowing about technology as a BAD things. It will be awesome in the future when these people are utterly incapable of doing any job. I already see this somewhat now at my work, there are people who refuse to learn about any new technology and take 5 to 6 times as long to do their job as someone whos moderately familiar with computers.
fortunately people who aren't good at anything will still become hack journalists
to be fair i think this is just a classic case of a journalist being assigned a topic they don't particularly care for, and doing a half arsed job till they get put onto something 'better', instead of being an actually journalist and researching the topic and trying to give a fair, unbiased view of the subject.
hardly surprising, and not really anything to get all that upset about.
Yeah I heard this interview, she was completely bewildered that game systems are capable of displaying text on the screen and not only that but forming complete sentences.
Also she seemed surprised that the average gamer could follow a storyline without their brain numbing over and promptly going into a coma.
I always like it when someone plays off knowing about technology as a BAD things. It will be awesome in the future when these people are utterly incapable of doing any job. I already see this somewhat now at my work, there are people who refuse to learn about any new technology and take 5 to 6 times as long to do their job as someone whos moderately familiar with computers.
Well I don't know a lot about this technical stuff BECAUSE I'M NOT A GEEK YOU KNOW
cheap, pulp sci-fi, much like the games. not that thats a bad thing. they do a great job of fleshing out the Halo universe, and provide a more in-depth back story.
This warning has been on other games before supposedly.
Like Pokemon Red/Blue.
Okay, then the general populace is just getting dumber as time goes on and developers felt the need to tell people that basic literacy is still something they might find useful.
Mr. Witt, I've reported both of your posts. I think urging the forum to raid is against the rules here. The rule is directed to raiding forums, but I think it's implied for phone numbers as well.
Calling to harass her is stupid and makes you look like a crazy jackass. Writing an eloquent letter on paper and mailing it to her would have a far greater effect.
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This warning has been on other games before supposedly.
Like Pokemon Red/Blue.
Okay, then the general populace is just getting dumber as time goes on and developers felt the need to tell people that basic literacy is still something they might find useful.
Actually for Pokemon it made sense since the game appealed to young kids as young as three and reading ability is obviously hit or miss in that age demographic.
This warning has been on other games before supposedly.
Like Pokemon Red/Blue.
Okay, then the general populace is just getting dumber as time goes on and developers felt the need to tell people that basic literacy is still something they might find useful.
only problem is, the warning are written. kinda defeats the purpose if the dumb fucks can't read in the first place.
Going by the state of writing in games at this point (save for Tim Schafer and very few others), it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of gamers, hell, even the majority of the games industry hasn't touched a piece of literature since high school.
This warning has been on other games before supposedly.
Like Pokemon Red/Blue.
Okay, then the general populace is just getting dumber as time goes on and developers felt the need to tell people that basic literacy is still something they might find useful.
only problem is, the warning are written. kinda defeats the purpose if the dumb fucks can't read in the first place.
It's for parents, obviously. There's nothing wrong with writing that, considering many parents buy games for kids that don't have basic reading capabilities. Stop making a big deal out of it.
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EvilBadmanDO NOT TRUST THIS MANRegistered Userregular
I think Halo fans and Gamers need to stop getting lumped together.
thanks.
This isn't a story about Halo. It just happened to have the story guru of Halo defending the fact that Gamers have the ability to read. It could have been any person who had written any media for any other game. So your ragging on Halo in this case is uncalled for.
Going by the state of writing in games at this point (save for Tim Schafer and very few others), it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of gamers, hell, even the majority of the games industry hasn't touched a piece of literature since high school.
reading is one thing, writing is something else entirely. they could all be literate and well read, but when it comes to creating a story, getting the plot, pacing and characters right, they're still going to struggle unless they understand the craft, its even harder when writing for games since the player has as much(if not more) control over the stories progression as the writer does.
writing in games has come alone way in a fairly short period of time, and with a greater focus being put on it now than ever, i think we'll see the improvement continue.
It's for parents, obviously. There's nothing wrong with writing that, considering many parents buy games for kids that don't have basic reading capabilities. Stop making a big deal out of it.
i know, i was just trying to be funny and failing miserably. par for the course really.
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I never knew the Halo novel was a NYT best seller. Thats pretty impressive.
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Wich is pretty rediculious.
fortunately people who aren't good at anything will still become hack journalists
hardly surprising, and not really anything to get all that upset about.
Also she seemed surprised that the average gamer could follow a storyline without their brain numbing over and promptly going into a coma.
Well I don't know a lot about this technical stuff BECAUSE I'M NOT A GEEK YOU KNOW
I read all the damn time! But I don''t usually read books about videogames because they're usually not very good. Are the Halo books any good?
cheap, pulp sci-fi, much like the games. not that thats a bad thing. they do a great job of fleshing out the Halo universe, and provide a more in-depth back story.
I'm pretty sure that's something called humor.
This warning has been on other games before supposedly.
Like Pokemon Red/Blue.
Okay, then the general populace is just getting dumber as time goes on and developers felt the need to tell people that basic literacy is still something they might find useful.
A Halo tie-in novel
Based on the Warhammer 40,00 license
Compulsory for my course
Published by Marvel or DC
would be about 6 months ago. Oh dear.
You're not helping the cause. Also, I can understand why they'd do that, seeing the type of game it is.
Stop that. PA is not your personal Army.
Calling to harass her is stupid and makes you look like a crazy jackass. Writing an eloquent letter on paper and mailing it to her would have a far greater effect.
Actually for Pokemon it made sense since the game appealed to young kids as young as three and reading ability is obviously hit or miss in that age demographic.
only problem is, the warning are written. kinda defeats the purpose if the dumb fucks can't read in the first place.
Well it's a good thing you've told us you came here to bitch and command us to complain to some person I've never even heard of
thanks.
It's for parents, obviously. There's nothing wrong with writing that, considering many parents buy games for kids that don't have basic reading capabilities. Stop making a big deal out of it.
Internet fuckwad theory.
This isn't a story about Halo. It just happened to have the story guru of Halo defending the fact that Gamers have the ability to read. It could have been any person who had written any media for any other game. So your ragging on Halo in this case is uncalled for.
I think elitism in a hobby that has a history of being dogged by elitists is hysterical.
it's like categorizing people that watch tv or people that go on the internet
Haha. Very good point.
reading is one thing, writing is something else entirely. they could all be literate and well read, but when it comes to creating a story, getting the plot, pacing and characters right, they're still going to struggle unless they understand the craft, its even harder when writing for games since the player has as much(if not more) control over the stories progression as the writer does.
writing in games has come alone way in a fairly short period of time, and with a greater focus being put on it now than ever, i think we'll see the improvement continue.
i know, i was just trying to be funny and failing miserably. par for the course really.
The Nielsen Company would like to show you the massive pile of cash they've made over the years.
Well, sort of. Also, pretty sure society in general is not as well-read as, say, 30 years ago.