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What do you believe is the best Televised News source/program?
Now we all know that there's an awful lot of crap out there. But I've found a couple of what I consider diamonds in the rough. To start this thread off I'd like to mention my favorite news hour:
Fantastic interviews, journalistic integrity, interesting subjects, and an overall lack of all that newstainment crap that pollutes the 24 hour networks make this PBS program fantastic in my eyes. I highly recommend the recent episode Cheney's Law, which takes an in depth look at the dynamics of executive power in the Bush administration (and will triple your respect for people like Ashcroft and other members of the Justice Department who held fast). The best part is you can watch every episode in its entirety online and gain a ton of excess information that they couldn't air.
The man talked Lynne Cheney into a corner of saying that we don't care about terrorist attacks in our allied nations so long as they're not against us. I mean, come on.
The man talked Lynne Cheney into a corner of saying that we don't care about terrorist attacks in our allied nations so long as they're not against us. I mean, come on.
Stewart is quickly becoming one of the toughest interviewers out there. That said, every now and then he may get a bit TOO pompous for someone who just does satire. It's the easiest thing in the world to criticize an establishment like Washington if you've never actually participated in it. At least he isn't as bad as Bill Mahr in that regard, though.
I feel like I should add Meet the Press to the list.
Another vote for the BBC. I heard that al jazeera was once considered a very good source... I know they had some bad pr recently, but does anyone know if this is still the case?
I've read news stories on their english site quite a few times, you'll occaisionally find a slight middle east bias (nothing too major though) but other wise it's pretty good. Don't know if the TV version is much different though. And yeah the BBC kicks arse.
When I had tv (and I find I dont actually miss it) I relied on Frontline as a secondary news source - it was more indepth than the general source of news (BBC online).
I have seen The Daily Show, and it mirrors often what I'm thinking - such as the report on the photos of Castros obvious good health, which were clearly the absolute truth, because in order to alter them, you need some sort of shop in which to change photos, and thats just crazy.
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BBC is alright, but I've got to say Channel 4's news is my favourite. Sometimes I feel, particularly during interviews, that the BBC can't quite what it wants to be as far as the recognised standard for news or trying too hard to be 'hard hitting' at the expense of actually being sensible. Paxman's interview of Coulter was a bit shite whilst the channel 4 interviews are really good - the interviewees generally behave and actually answer the questions and John Snow will call them on it if they don't without being as desperate to use his power as I feel Paxman is.
BBC is alright, but I've got to say Channel 4's news is my favourite. Sometimes I feel, particularly during interviews, that the BBC can't quite what it wants to be as far as the recognised standard for news or trying too hard to be 'hard hitting' at the expense of actually being sensible. Paxman's interview of Coulter was a bit shite whilst the channel 4 interviews are really good - the interviewees generally behave and actually answer the questions and John Snow will call them on it if they don't without being as desperate to use his power as I feel Paxman is.
Jeremy Paxman's aggressive attitude during interviews is more a reflection of his personality than of Newsnight's approach. Sometimes the interviewee will wither and sometimes they'll try to match his forthrightness. Obviously this method has it's bonuses and drawbacks. But I can't remember ever feeling like an interview he has presided over, that mattered, did not explore the arguments as adequately as I hoped for. I rarely find myself disappointed by Newsnight or the BBC's World News coverage.
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They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
CBC newsworld is pretty good. They show a lot of documentaries about stuff going on around the world. They're not really solely focused on canadian stories, in that they cover a lot of events and happenings pertinent to other nations. Not just the powerful nations either.
Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
kidding
To be fair, of the three major 24-hour news stations, Fox covers the news the best.
If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.
I would disagree there.
At one point Fox had a mandate that forced all of their news anchors to refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers.
I'm not saying that they're unbiased; I'm just saying that if you get home, and decide you want to turn on some news, odds are, CNN will be playing Larry King doing some retarded interview with some retarded celebrity, MSNBC will be showing To Catch A Predator or some retarded one-hour documentary about a dude who killed his wife, whereas Fox will most likely be showing actual news.
Another vote for the CBC. Best television and radio news in Canada, although their local coverage is somewhat lacking when compared to the local Global or CTV stations. Their national news and political coverage is still by far the best.
I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.
Definitely. No commercials or angry talking heads, just news presented intelligently. Charlie Rose airs right before it, too, which is nice.
Huh, we still get PBS kids programming before it in my area. Chicago Tonight is on right after, though, so it's like national/international news then local/state in a 2 hour stretch when I'm eating dinner and relaxing.
Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P
I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.
I know its not tv, but most of my news comes from npr whenever I'm in the car, and since I work nights, I frequently get bbc, which is on from midnight to 6 am, I think. The only tv shows I watch that are news related are the Daily show and Colbert report, but only once every two months or so, I don't really watch much tv. So my vote is for my tv being on, but set to the radio, on NPR.
Another vote for the CBC. Best television and radio news in Canada, although their local coverage is somewhat lacking when compared to the local Global or CTV stations. Their national news and political coverage is still by far the best.
Rex Murphy rules.
ditto.
The Hour is great too.
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I remember the exact moment I realized that the cable news networks are rediculous. I woke up hung over from the night before and so I grabbed a blanket and a large glass of water and flipped on the TV while I recovered. While cruising through channels I came across MSNBC. They were doing live coverage of a horse that had fallen in a mud hole somewhere in the south.
I kept going because my brain wasn't yet working well enough to wonder why a horse falling in a mud hole was news worthy. So I flipped back because the only thing I could think of was maybe it was like the winner from the Kentucky Derby or something. So I watched it for about 5 minutes and found out that, no, it was just a random horse.
I started cruising through channels again laughing a little that a major news network was covering a story like that live with a helicopter circling overhead. Then I hit CNN. They were also covering it live. With experts coming on to assess the horses condition from the images they were getting from the helicopter. Then I realized the angle was different in the live video. So I quickly flipped back to MSNBC. Apparently CNN had their own helicopter covering the great horse catastrophy of 2007. Almost cringing at this point I went over to FOX. They also had live coverage and sure as shit their own fucking helicopter circling overhead.
I watched this for about an hour because I just couldn't convince myself it was real. Then all of a sudden from one commercial break to the next, coverage stopped with no hint it had ever occured in the first place. They spent god knows how long covering a horse that was stuck in the mud and then didn't even have the balls to report it had died.
The above and the fact that I know far too fucking much about Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan because major news networks apparently consider them worthy of 24 hour coverage is why I've come to pretty much despise all the major cable news channels. It doesn't help that we have CNN on at work at all times so we can know about any major incidents concerning air travel and I've spent the last week reading shit about Spears' apparent mental collapse.
At this point I pretty much just take my news in article form so that I can inform myself about things that actually, ya know, matter and just not read the articles that are worthless. So, ahem, I guess my vote is for pretty much any reputable news site on the web?
Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P
I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.
Isn't it ironic though, that many of us turn to a program of satire to get unbiased news and interviews? Of course it doesn't hurt that it's funny and enjoyable to watch, but it's mostly because I trust these programs to be fair in their humor and thus in their reporting.
Serious news shows have lost my faith after so much bullshit and I inherently distrust them now.
Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P
I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.
Isn't it ironic though, that many of us turn to a program of satire to get unbiased news and interviews? Of course it doesn't hurt that it's funny and enjoyable to watch, but it's mostly because I trust these programs to be fair in their humor and thus in their reporting.
Serious news shows have lost my faith after so much bullshit and I inherently distrust them now.
Ironic and generally representative of an apathetic youth culture.
And really, that's all the 24 hour networks do when it comes to actually real news. Investigative reporting, etc, is really the only thing worth it on tv. Otherwise a dump from google news or some RSS feed will get you facts quicker, with out a panel of experts to argue the finer points of Britney's latest breakdown.
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The man talked Lynne Cheney into a corner of saying that we don't care about terrorist attacks in our allied nations so long as they're not against us. I mean, come on.
I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.
Stewart is quickly becoming one of the toughest interviewers out there. That said, every now and then he may get a bit TOO pompous for someone who just does satire. It's the easiest thing in the world to criticize an establishment like Washington if you've never actually participated in it. At least he isn't as bad as Bill Mahr in that regard, though.
I feel like I should add Meet the Press to the list.
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Lateline and the 7:30 Report are two of my favourites but Virginia Trioli pisses me off.
I have seen The Daily Show, and it mirrors often what I'm thinking - such as the report on the photos of Castros obvious good health, which were clearly the absolute truth, because in order to alter them, you need some sort of shop in which to change photos, and thats just crazy.
BBC is alright, but I've got to say Channel 4's news is my favourite. Sometimes I feel, particularly during interviews, that the BBC can't quite what it wants to be as far as the recognised standard for news or trying too hard to be 'hard hitting' at the expense of actually being sensible. Paxman's interview of Coulter was a bit shite whilst the channel 4 interviews are really good - the interviewees generally behave and actually answer the questions and John Snow will call them on it if they don't without being as desperate to use his power as I feel Paxman is.
Jeremy Paxman's aggressive attitude during interviews is more a reflection of his personality than of Newsnight's approach. Sometimes the interviewee will wither and sometimes they'll try to match his forthrightness. Obviously this method has it's bonuses and drawbacks. But I can't remember ever feeling like an interview he has presided over, that mattered, did not explore the arguments as adequately as I hoped for. I rarely find myself disappointed by Newsnight or the BBC's World News coverage.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.
I would disagree there.
At one point Fox had a mandate that forced all of their news anchors to refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers.
A ahhaha, fox news
Edit: Oh hooray, we have another thread to bash FOX news.
He isn't a news anchor...
Rex Murphy rules.
He talks about news, close enough. People were citing the Daily Show, weren't they? That's also an editorial program.
Definitely. No commercials or angry talking heads, just news presented intelligently. Charlie Rose airs right before it, too, which is nice.
Edit: Maybe not a news show but Bill Moyers' Journal is badass, too. His interview with John Stewart was one of the best.
Huh, we still get PBS kids programming before it in my area. Chicago Tonight is on right after, though, so it's like national/international news then local/state in a 2 hour stretch when I'm eating dinner and relaxing.
I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.
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ditto.
The Hour is great too.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I kept going because my brain wasn't yet working well enough to wonder why a horse falling in a mud hole was news worthy. So I flipped back because the only thing I could think of was maybe it was like the winner from the Kentucky Derby or something. So I watched it for about 5 minutes and found out that, no, it was just a random horse.
I started cruising through channels again laughing a little that a major news network was covering a story like that live with a helicopter circling overhead. Then I hit CNN. They were also covering it live. With experts coming on to assess the horses condition from the images they were getting from the helicopter. Then I realized the angle was different in the live video. So I quickly flipped back to MSNBC. Apparently CNN had their own helicopter covering the great horse catastrophy of 2007. Almost cringing at this point I went over to FOX. They also had live coverage and sure as shit their own fucking helicopter circling overhead.
I watched this for about an hour because I just couldn't convince myself it was real. Then all of a sudden from one commercial break to the next, coverage stopped with no hint it had ever occured in the first place. They spent god knows how long covering a horse that was stuck in the mud and then didn't even have the balls to report it had died.
The above and the fact that I know far too fucking much about Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan because major news networks apparently consider them worthy of 24 hour coverage is why I've come to pretty much despise all the major cable news channels. It doesn't help that we have CNN on at work at all times so we can know about any major incidents concerning air travel and I've spent the last week reading shit about Spears' apparent mental collapse.
At this point I pretty much just take my news in article form so that I can inform myself about things that actually, ya know, matter and just not read the articles that are worthless. So, ahem, I guess my vote is for pretty much any reputable news site on the web?
Isn't it ironic though, that many of us turn to a program of satire to get unbiased news and interviews? Of course it doesn't hurt that it's funny and enjoyable to watch, but it's mostly because I trust these programs to be fair in their humor and thus in their reporting.
Serious news shows have lost my faith after so much bullshit and I inherently distrust them now.
Ironic and generally representative of an apathetic youth culture.
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Maybe we just don't have time to waste sifting through the 24-hour networks because we have shit to do.
Most of my news comes from newspaper websites or Google News, because I don't get anything approaching decent reception or cable.
Pretty sure we've already gone over that.
I just RSS Reuters.
And really, that's all the 24 hour networks do when it comes to actually real news. Investigative reporting, etc, is really the only thing worth it on tv. Otherwise a dump from google news or some RSS feed will get you facts quicker, with out a panel of experts to argue the finer points of Britney's latest breakdown.