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Best TV News (network or program)

HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
What do you believe is the best Televised News source/program?

Now we all know that there's an awful lot of crap out there. But I've found a couple of what I consider diamonds in the rough. To start this thread off I'd like to mention my favorite news hour:

Frontline

Fantastic interviews, journalistic integrity, interesting subjects, and an overall lack of all that newstainment crap that pollutes the 24 hour networks make this PBS program fantastic in my eyes. I highly recommend the recent episode Cheney's Law, which takes an in depth look at the dynamics of executive power in the Bush administration (and will triple your respect for people like Ashcroft and other members of the Justice Department who held fast). The best part is you can watch every episode in its entirety online and gain a ton of excess information that they couldn't air.

Also C-SPAN rules, but we know this.

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  • jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The Daily Show.

    The man talked Lynne Cheney into a corner of saying that we don't care about terrorist attacks in our allied nations so long as they're not against us. I mean, come on.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The News Hour with Jim Lehrer

    I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    jotate wrote: »
    The Daily Show.

    The man talked Lynne Cheney into a corner of saying that we don't care about terrorist attacks in our allied nations so long as they're not against us. I mean, come on.

    Stewart is quickly becoming one of the toughest interviewers out there. That said, every now and then he may get a bit TOO pompous for someone who just does satire. It's the easiest thing in the world to criticize an establishment like Washington if you've never actually participated in it. At least he isn't as bad as Bill Mahr in that regard, though.

    I feel like I should add Meet the Press to the list.

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  • PentPent Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
    kidding

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  • HearthjawHearthjaw Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Holyshit, there's a real Frontline?!
    Lateline and the 7:30 Report are two of my favourites but Virginia Trioli pisses me off.

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  • RitchmeisterRitchmeister Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    No contest. The Beeb wins hands down.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Another vote for the BBC. I heard that al jazeera was once considered a very good source... I know they had some bad pr recently, but does anyone know if this is still the case?

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  • HearthjawHearthjaw Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I've read news stories on their english site quite a few times, you'll occaisionally find a slight middle east bias (nothing too major though) but other wise it's pretty good. Don't know if the TV version is much different though. And yeah the BBC kicks arse.

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  • QuadmanQuadman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    BBC for sure, Local Cable provider just added it to the basic package and I can't get enough of it.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Whenever I land on 60 minutes I like to watch it. Mike Wallace has a stare that eats your soul it seems.

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  • Sword_of_LightSword_of_Light Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    When I had tv (and I find I dont actually miss it) I relied on Frontline as a secondary news source - it was more indepth than the general source of news (BBC online).

    I have seen The Daily Show, and it mirrors often what I'm thinking - such as the report on the photos of Castros obvious good health, which were clearly the absolute truth, because in order to alter them, you need some sort of shop in which to change photos, and thats just crazy.

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    No contest. The Beeb wins hands down.

    BBC is alright, but I've got to say Channel 4's news is my favourite. Sometimes I feel, particularly during interviews, that the BBC can't quite what it wants to be as far as the recognised standard for news or trying too hard to be 'hard hitting' at the expense of actually being sensible. Paxman's interview of Coulter was a bit shite whilst the channel 4 interviews are really good - the interviewees generally behave and actually answer the questions and John Snow will call them on it if they don't without being as desperate to use his power as I feel Paxman is.

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  • PlutocracyPlutocracy regular
    edited January 2008
    Tastyfish wrote: »
    No contest. The Beeb wins hands down.

    BBC is alright, but I've got to say Channel 4's news is my favourite. Sometimes I feel, particularly during interviews, that the BBC can't quite what it wants to be as far as the recognised standard for news or trying too hard to be 'hard hitting' at the expense of actually being sensible. Paxman's interview of Coulter was a bit shite whilst the channel 4 interviews are really good - the interviewees generally behave and actually answer the questions and John Snow will call them on it if they don't without being as desperate to use his power as I feel Paxman is.

    Jeremy Paxman's aggressive attitude during interviews is more a reflection of his personality than of Newsnight's approach. Sometimes the interviewee will wither and sometimes they'll try to match his forthrightness. Obviously this method has it's bonuses and drawbacks. But I can't remember ever feeling like an interview he has presided over, that mattered, did not explore the arguments as adequately as I hoped for. I rarely find myself disappointed by Newsnight or the BBC's World News coverage.

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  • LucidLucid Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    CBC newsworld is pretty good. They show a lot of documentaries about stuff going on around the world. They're not really solely focused on canadian stories, in that they cover a lot of events and happenings pertinent to other nations. Not just the powerful nations either.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Pent wrote: »
    Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
    kidding
    To be fair, of the three major 24-hour news stations, Fox covers the news the best.

    If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Pent wrote: »
    Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
    kidding
    To be fair, of the three major 24-hour news stations, Fox covers the news the best.

    If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.

    I would disagree there.

    At one point Fox had a mandate that forced all of their news anchors to refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers.

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  • HearthjawHearthjaw Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Pent wrote: »
    Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
    kidding
    To be fair, of the three major 24-hour news stations, Fox covers the news the best.

    If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.

    I would disagree there.

    At one point Fox had a mandate that forced all of their news anchors to refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers.

    A ahhaha, fox news

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Also, Keith Olbermann.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Pent wrote: »
    Fox is of course the best and most credible television station for news
    kidding
    To be fair, of the three major 24-hour news stations, Fox covers the news the best.

    If you're looking for retarded documentaries, sensationalist journalism, and infotainment, MSNBC or CNN are the places to be.
    I would disagree there.

    At one point Fox had a mandate that forced all of their news anchors to refer to suicide bombers as homicide bombers.
    I'm not saying that they're unbiased; I'm just saying that if you get home, and decide you want to turn on some news, odds are, CNN will be playing Larry King doing some retarded interview with some retarded celebrity, MSNBC will be showing To Catch A Predator or some retarded one-hour documentary about a dude who killed his wife, whereas Fox will most likely be showing actual news.

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  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    I like Morning Joe on MSNBC as everybody on it is pretty cynical and not cheery like other morning shows.

    Edit: Oh hooray, we have another thread to bash FOX news.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Also, Keith Olbermann.

    He isn't a news anchor...

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  • saggiosaggio Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Another vote for the CBC. Best television and radio news in Canada, although their local coverage is somewhat lacking when compared to the local Global or CTV stations. Their national news and political coverage is still by far the best.

    Rex Murphy rules.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Also, Keith Olbermann.

    He isn't a news anchor...

    He talks about news, close enough. People were citing the Daily Show, weren't they? That's also an editorial program.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    The News Hour with Jim Lehrer

    I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.

    Definitely. No commercials or angry talking heads, just news presented intelligently. Charlie Rose airs right before it, too, which is nice.

    Edit: Maybe not a news show but Bill Moyers' Journal is badass, too. His interview with John Stewart was one of the best.

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  • Mei HikariMei Hikari Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    yep, The Daily Show, hands down.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Fats wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    The News Hour with Jim Lehrer

    I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.

    Definitely. No commercials or angry talking heads, just news presented intelligently. Charlie Rose airs right before it, too, which is nice.

    Huh, we still get PBS kids programming before it in my area. Chicago Tonight is on right after, though, so it's like national/international news then local/state in a 2 hour stretch when I'm eating dinner and relaxing.

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  • AmphetamineAmphetamine Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    daily show definitely, but i second olbermann- the man is awesome.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P

    I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.

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  • UltaruneUltarune Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I know its not tv, but most of my news comes from npr whenever I'm in the car, and since I work nights, I frequently get bbc, which is on from midnight to 6 am, I think. The only tv shows I watch that are news related are the Daily show and Colbert report, but only once every two months or so, I don't really watch much tv. So my vote is for my tv being on, but set to the radio, on NPR.

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  • ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    saggio wrote: »
    Another vote for the CBC. Best television and radio news in Canada, although their local coverage is somewhat lacking when compared to the local Global or CTV stations. Their national news and political coverage is still by far the best.

    Rex Murphy rules.

    ditto.

    The Hour is great too.

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I remember the exact moment I realized that the cable news networks are rediculous. I woke up hung over from the night before and so I grabbed a blanket and a large glass of water and flipped on the TV while I recovered. While cruising through channels I came across MSNBC. They were doing live coverage of a horse that had fallen in a mud hole somewhere in the south.

    I kept going because my brain wasn't yet working well enough to wonder why a horse falling in a mud hole was news worthy. So I flipped back because the only thing I could think of was maybe it was like the winner from the Kentucky Derby or something. So I watched it for about 5 minutes and found out that, no, it was just a random horse.

    I started cruising through channels again laughing a little that a major news network was covering a story like that live with a helicopter circling overhead. Then I hit CNN. They were also covering it live. With experts coming on to assess the horses condition from the images they were getting from the helicopter. Then I realized the angle was different in the live video. So I quickly flipped back to MSNBC. Apparently CNN had their own helicopter covering the great horse catastrophy of 2007. Almost cringing at this point I went over to FOX. They also had live coverage and sure as shit their own fucking helicopter circling overhead.

    I watched this for about an hour because I just couldn't convince myself it was real. Then all of a sudden from one commercial break to the next, coverage stopped with no hint it had ever occured in the first place. They spent god knows how long covering a horse that was stuck in the mud and then didn't even have the balls to report it had died.

    The above and the fact that I know far too fucking much about Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan because major news networks apparently consider them worthy of 24 hour coverage is why I've come to pretty much despise all the major cable news channels. It doesn't help that we have CNN on at work at all times so we can know about any major incidents concerning air travel and I've spent the last week reading shit about Spears' apparent mental collapse.

    At this point I pretty much just take my news in article form so that I can inform myself about things that actually, ya know, matter and just not read the articles that are worthless. So, ahem, I guess my vote is for pretty much any reputable news site on the web?

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  • Mei HikariMei Hikari Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Heartlash wrote: »
    Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P

    I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.

    Isn't it ironic though, that many of us turn to a program of satire to get unbiased news and interviews? Of course it doesn't hurt that it's funny and enjoyable to watch, but it's mostly because I trust these programs to be fair in their humor and thus in their reporting.

    Serious news shows have lost my faith after so much bullshit and I inherently distrust them now.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mei Hikari wrote: »
    Heartlash wrote: »
    Christ, all you people saying the Daily Show really need to try to find some good REAL news programs :P

    I know it's hard with the major 24 hour networks generally providing so much suck, but really, you won't regret it if you make the effort to shift through the bullshit. The Daily Show provides good satire and the occasional solid interview, but is pretty much the tip of the iceberg when it comes to informative programming.

    Isn't it ironic though, that many of us turn to a program of satire to get unbiased news and interviews? Of course it doesn't hurt that it's funny and enjoyable to watch, but it's mostly because I trust these programs to be fair in their humor and thus in their reporting.

    Serious news shows have lost my faith after so much bullshit and I inherently distrust them now.

    Ironic and generally representative of an apathetic youth culture.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Isn't our Youth Culture more involved in community service and politics than any previous generation in recent memory?

    Maybe we just don't have time to waste sifting through the 24-hour networks because we have shit to do.

    Most of my news comes from newspaper websites or Google News, because I don't get anything approaching decent reception or cable.

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    The News Hour with Jim Lehrer

    I wonder if Gwen, Judy, or Ray will get top billing after he retires.

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  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Can The Daily Show really be classified as news?

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Can The Daily Show really be classified as news?

    Pretty sure we've already gone over that.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't watch much TV news anymore.

    I just RSS Reuters. :/

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  • tachyontachyon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Duki wrote: »
    I don't watch much TV news anymore.

    I just RSS Reuters. :/

    And really, that's all the 24 hour networks do when it comes to actually real news. Investigative reporting, etc, is really the only thing worth it on tv. Otherwise a dump from google news or some RSS feed will get you facts quicker, with out a panel of experts to argue the finer points of Britney's latest breakdown.

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